Coming back to GW

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Walkrr
Ascalonian Squire
#1
Well I quit right before the first expansion came out and I was wondering what the deal is with these expansions, so here are some questions for you guys.



Should I get Factions or Nightfall first?

Just to make sure, when people say Prophecies are they referring to original Guild Wars?

What is the focus of each expansion?
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EatMoreCarbs
Frost Gate Guardian
#2
Prophecies = Original Guild Wars
Factions = More PvP based
Nightfall = More PvE based

Choose your weapon
dameros
dameros
Banned
#3
A lot of people hate factions and a few love it. There are mixed opinions about the replayability of Nightfall.

It really depends on what you want, pve or pvp. IMO the new professions in Nightfall are much more fun than the ones in Factions.
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Russell.Crowe
Lion's Arch Merchant
#4
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Originally Posted by EatMoreCarbs
Prophecies = Original Guild Wars
Factions = More PvP based
Nightfall = More PvE based

Choose your weapon
UGH, factions was not more pvp based... factions is a short campaign, with a bad and predictable storyline, with 1 mediocre class (rits), and it has many pointless sidedealings to do (elite missions, challenge missions, alliance battles, etc.)

Nightfall is a longer campaign, it has a few of the same sidedealings as factions (an elite mission, challenge missions), but it also has new things added with it (heros, hero battles), and the two added professions are superior to the ones in factions imo (Dervish and Paragon), although I am a fan of the assassin

tbh I enjoy both for different reasons, but as of now I am a bigger fan of nightfall than factions
K
Kook~NBK~
Grotto Attendant
#5
Nightfall is far, far superior to factions, from a PvE point of view.

The story-line is, IMHO, the best of the three. Your character becomes a central figure in the goings on. The voice acting is much, much better than what factions has to offer.

20 missions (but only have to do 17 to get through the game) vs the 13 in factions.

They threw in some things to give the place a "real-world" (in a fantasy game kind of way) feel to Elona, such the place where you come across a funeral being conducted.

Bonuses: In factions, to get the Masters bonus, all but two missions have to be done under a certian amount of time. In Nightfall, there are several different types of things you have to do to get the Masters bonus- keep these people alive in one, go find and kill certian guys in another, don't hurt these people in another, etc. (Yes, there are a couple of timed missions as well.)
Emik
Emik
Jungle Guide
#6
Tbh i'd recommend Factions before Nightfall should you be buying them both that is.
Ok Factions wasn't the best of the three but it's still playable... and the moaning about 'how Factions sucked' is all bull... you all played it and till Nightfall was released you all loved it.
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MaglorD
Jungle Guide
#7
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Originally Posted by Russell.Crowe

Nightfall is a longer campaign, it has a few of the same sidedealings as factions (an elite mission, challenge missions), but it also has new things added with it (heros, hero battles), and the two added professions are superior to the ones in factions imo (Dervish and Paragon), although I am a fan of the assassin

Sorry, I disagree. Any profession, including the assassin and ritualist, can hold its own if played well.
Shaden
Shaden
Ascalonian Squire
#8
I say go with Nightfall first to get you into the game with a bang. The areas and storyline are nice and it introduces many new things that are great. After a while you can get Factions for the skills, some AB (fun), ang experiment with the new classes and armor. Btw, I think most factions armors are better designed than Nightfall armor in terms of looks. At least, from what Ive seen. Just an opinion.
Perynne
Perynne
Site Contributor
#9
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Originally Posted by Russell.Crowe
UGH, factions was not more pvp based... factions is a short campaign, with a bad and predictable storyline, with 1 mediocre class (rits),
Both assassin and ritualist are very good if played well. A guildmate of mine henched masters from every single Nightfall mission with his assassin without much trouble (read: only tried each mission once or twice before getting masters), and generally laughs at people who say assassin is a worthless class. I play a ritualist as a secondary character, and have done very well with it too. It all depends on how much time you take to get to know your class and it's strengths and weaknesses.


As for which one to get, get Factions first. It might not be as new and shiny as Nightfall, but there's a lot of content in Nightfall that ties in with Factions and Prophecies. If you are planning on getting both anyway at some point, you'll get Factions spoiled for you if you play Nightfall first.
The feel of Factions is asian, and the feel of Nightfall is african. Both might feel a bit odd at first if you're used to european fantasy (like Prophecies), but they quickly start feeling like a second home.
Ozric
Ozric
Lion's Arch Merchant
#10
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Originally Posted by Shaden
I say go with Nightfall first to get you into the game with a bang. The areas and storyline are nice and it introduces many new things that are great. After a while you can get Factions for the skills, some AB (fun), ang experiment with the new classes and armor. Btw, I think most factions armors are better designed than Nightfall armor in terms of looks. At least, from what Ive seen. Just an opinion.
I'd agree with this poster. I wouldn't suggest going into Factions right now as there are some outposts that are pretty dead, and it may be difficult to get a party up for a mission or quest (unless you don't mind henching everything. You can get back to Factions later. Do Nightfall now.
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Sid Soggybottom
Banned
#11
I'd say if storyline is important to you then I'd play them in the order that they came out. There's a somewhat of a slight continuity between the chapters.

Otherwise, I'd probably play Nightfall first then play Factions with the acquired heroes.
Phaern Majes
Phaern Majes
Desert Nomad
#12
The majority of people will tell you NF is the better game. Although it is losing some of its edge considering there is currently no elite mission. So unless you want to replay missions and quests over and over and over and over and over.... well you get the idea. They both offer new content, but NF does have a longer better storyline. Though, I personally like the skills and 2 classes of Factions better.

All in all I'd just say get them all, if not get NF first then decide if you really want factions or not.
NeHoMaR
NeHoMaR
Desert Nomad
#14
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Originally Posted by Walkrr
Should I get Factions or Nightfall first?
If you have the money, get both, plain and simple; If you like PvP you will need all skills; It's also good having all skills for play your favorite PvE missions (or farming)
Lord Sojar
Lord Sojar
The Fallen One
#15
Dont comeback.... Go move to Korea and play Aion.


UNLESS:

You want to deal with retarded AI.
Love grinding for sunspear pts.
Like never getting a human being in your group to talk with and joke around with.

If those 3 are true, get back into it. Otherwise, I would say run while you still can.
Darcy
Darcy
Never Too Old
#16
Yes, Prophecies is the original GW chapter.

This set of games is intended to be a triolgy that ends with Nightfall. Therefore, if you choose Nightfall for your second chapter, you will finish the main storyline and then when you do Factions, you will backtrack to the middle of it.

Prophecies - beginning of story
Factions - two storylines - main evil taking over world, 2nd conflict between Luxon and Kurzick groups
Nightfall - finale of main storyline

Other than that, there are pros and cons for every chapter - armor, character looks, heroes - the problem is we are spoiled for choice.
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Ninna
Desert Nomad
#17
theres not much Factions lore in Nightfall

theres is Prophecies lore with "tying up loose ends" with elonians
Perynne
Perynne
Site Contributor
#18
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Originally Posted by Ninna
theres not much Factions lore in Nightfall

theres is Prophecies lore with "tying up loose ends" with elonians
Well, not lore as such, but a guildmate of mine spoiled some of Nightfall's ending for me (I haven't passed it yet), and there is a strong connection between all the games. Playing Nightfall first will kind of spoil parts of Factions main storyline close to the end and will be a letdown for any gamer who enjoys their storylines intact. Then again, if you only play for the action then it doesn't matter which one you get first.
DomoniBellumMaximus
DomoniBellumMaximus
Ascalonian Squire
#19
Prophecies is the best. Night fall is my second favorite enviornment, but your really can't play through nightfall with multiple characters in a short period of time, so if you plan on using ur tyrian characters to go through whichever campaign you buy, i would suggest Factions, because its more fun to do multiple times.
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Walkrr
Ascalonian Squire
#20
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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Dont comeback.... Go move to Korea and play Aion.


UNLESS:

You want to deal with retarded AI.
Love grinding for sunspear pts.
Like never getting a human being in your group to talk with and joke around with.

If those 3 are true, get back into it. Otherwise, I would say run while you still can.

Could you explain this to me a little more? What are sunspear points? What has happened to the AI? and is there a lack of players or something?