Story: I tested several builds before I came to a perfect build for Shiro. I asked people in Gate of Madness on how much they're willing to pay to get run for the mission. Many people replied 3-5k, while highest is 20k. So I ran this guy through the mission for 20k, and he didn't pay at the end. I was pissed, but I can't do anything about it. Getting to Shiro itself takes half an hour to do so.
So now on the forum, I'm going to ask the same question again. How much are you willing to pay to get a run for this mission?
Gate of Madness: How much are you willing to pay?
lightblade
Warrior Of The Toon
0gp. This mission is easily done with a PUG as long as you are careful and don't do anything stupid, and have someone who can flee and res occasionaly. I did it first time with a PUG =)
unienaule
The Crystal Desert ascension missions are easy, too, and yet people pay to be run through them. I would also say the range of 3-5k is probably acceptable, but you might be able to charge more if there aren't many runners.
Koning
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Originally Posted by Warrior Of The Toon
and don't do anything stupid
That seems impossible in most PUG groups
clawofcrimson
cmon guys there is forums for discussing how much you hate anet for this mish... (i love anet in my opinion) hes askin a simple question so give him a simple answer....
I have already beaten shiro on my warrior... but I may have some difficulty with my other characters...so...
id say 6k or under
I have already beaten shiro on my warrior... but I may have some difficulty with my other characters...so...
id say 6k or under
Lykan
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Originally Posted by lightblade
So I ran this guy through the mission for 20k, and he didn't pay at the end. I was pissed, but I can't do anything about it.
So now on the forum, I'm going to ask the same question again. How much are you willing to pay to get a run for this mission? Do what the runners do half before killing him and half before killing the Lich.
3-5k per person I reckon.
So now on the forum, I'm going to ask the same question again. How much are you willing to pay to get a run for this mission? Do what the runners do half before killing him and half before killing the Lich.
3-5k per person I reckon.
thezed
Cant seem to hench/hero this one myself, havent tried a PUG though.
At the VERY most I would pay 5k.
At the VERY most I would pay 5k.
Dougal Kronik
I won't pay anything.
I also won't have anyone run/solo me through a mission.
But, if I would I'd say 3-5k like most of the Ascension missions is fair.
I also won't have anyone run/solo me through a mission.
But, if I would I'd say 3-5k like most of the Ascension missions is fair.
Thargor
You are kidding right? This mission is EASILY beat with any character and heros and henchies, no PUG required. There is a guide here on Guru that explains it in extensive detail. It must suck to be so bad at playing this game that you have to pay a runner to get you thru missions just so you can actually beat the game.
Sorry for the rant but it had to be said.
As for your question, if it isn't already crystal clear from my rant, I would never pay for a run thru that mission, not even 1gold coin.
Sorry for the rant but it had to be said.
As for your question, if it isn't already crystal clear from my rant, I would never pay for a run thru that mission, not even 1gold coin.
Saphatorael
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Originally Posted by Koning
That seems impossible in most PUG groups
True. Need an example of that? The other monk in the team casting resurrect midbattle. While having aggro'ed 3 mobs. Gee gee.
I just don't bother to do the mission with my monk. It's like everybody's... just... bad at the game. I have no idea how some people have reached that area when I see them trying to aggro something, or picking their targets. >.>
I just don't bother to do the mission with my monk. It's like everybody's... just... bad at the game. I have no idea how some people have reached that area when I see them trying to aggro something, or picking their targets. >.>
Tiny Killer
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I have no idea how some people have reached that area...
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So I ran this guy through the mission...
I think this answers many questions about the quality of players you can encounter throughout the game.
Beat_Go_Stick
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Originally Posted by Thargor
You are kidding right? This mission is EASILY beat with any character and heros and henchies, no PUG required. There is a guide here on Guru that explains it in extensive detail. It must suck to be so bad at playing this game that you have to pay a runner to get you thru missions just so you can actually beat the game.
Sorry for the rant but it had to be said. As for your question, if it isn't already crystal clear from my rant, I would never pay for a run thru that mission, not even 1gold coin. No need to come in and crap on a thread with useless comments then, eh? If you have nothing to say on topic, just shrug and move on. If you can't acknowledge the fact that, though you may be unwilling to do so, there are hundreds/thousands of people who want to be run through that and most any mission, then I don't know what game you're playing. Personally, I find that charging 5k will get you a lot of customers as it's not too much yet still enough to make a lot from a full party on the run. 3k will get even more...so I guess it all depends on how much you want to run. I would say make sure you are making at least 20-30k+ per hour if you want it to be worth it...especially if nobody else is there running it. Former Ruling
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Originally Posted by Thargor
You are kidding right? This mission is EASILY beat with any character and heros and henchies, no PUG required. There is a guide here on Guru that explains it in extensive detail. It must suck to be so bad at playing this game that you have to pay a runner to get you thru missions just so you can actually beat the game.
Sorry for the rant but it had to be said. As for your question, if it isn't already crystal clear from my rant, I would never pay for a run thru that mission, not even 1gold coin. Easy is relative to who you are. People pay up to 5-6k for runs through certain ascension missions in the desert (Thirsty, and upto 1-1.5k for Elona), and all of those can be done blindfolded if you know what you are doing. (heck, they pay 500gp per town to just get run TO the missions) Its a time and effort thing too, if you just want your newbie warrior through the game to beat Abaddon and get Primeval Armor, you are willing to pay for this service. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyway, The first week Nightfall was out I saw people offering upto 50k+ to get through the mission. I suppose thats settled to around 10k-15k now, depending on how many of you are trying to get people through the mission. Can drop to 5-6k if the service gets too popular and easy for yall, due to competition, like what happened in the desert.
lightblade
So you guys are saying 3-6k for a 30 minute run? No thank you, there are people paying me 4k to run the 6 minute Ruin of Morah.
Cyan The Archer
10k - But not anymore because i've completed it.
Jecht Scye
0g I can do it myself.
gestalt
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Originally Posted by unienaule
The Crystal Desert ascension missions are easy, too, and yet people pay to be run through them. I would also say the range of 3-5k is probably acceptable, but you might be able to charge more if there aren't many runners.
I henched the ascension missions and I henched/heroes gates of madness, so 0gp I guess. But yeah people pay for the ascension all the time. Haven't done ascension with Heroes, but with hench it was about equivalent to Gates of Madness with hero/hench. Although Gates is longer, so maybe adjust price for that?
So I'd agree with above, about the same price but probably inflated a bit for newness. Antheus
Good, maybe now all the D and P surplus will be cleared from those missions, and it'll be possible to make balanced groups.
EmptySpiral1283
It would all depend.I still haven't beat this one but don't really wanna pay, as I can't learn anything if I sit and do nothing.But I will say this.It does take time and effort to get to Shiro.I can easily hench the rest of this mission without dying once, but I go slow.I kill just about everything there is before I even try Shiro.Thats quite a bit of time and work in itself.I have seen people advertising it two ways, and here is what I would pay max(assuming I wanted to be ran, just what seems fair to me)both ways considered.
You run the whole mission, customer does nothing: 15k Might not be a lot, but if someone was to truly be asked to pay what the time and effort is worth to do it, the price would be high enough no one would pay. Customer does whole mission, you just kill Shiro: 7k plus any colored drops. It still takes your time, but if all you do is kill one boss, I don't think you can get a lot of people to pay much more. Just my two cents :-) Eather
??? finished this mission and bonus with henchies and heros with 4 of my toons, Imo this is a very easy mission,
Dunno why ppl are having such a hard time in this mission All you have to do is spread heroes and henchies, aegis and spoil victor against Shiro.
Trakata
Well, for subsequent runs through the mission, since it's already old after one character, I might pay 5-10k depending. Definitely worth it in my opinion to save time.
*Edit* Also, please, this is not a discussion on how to beat the mission. The TC is simply asking how much you would be willing to pay. Keep it focused
Thallandor
Wont pay, i will just do it myself with Heros + hench.
In any case just a little tip for those who would "help" someone with a run/mission/quest just because they spammed that they are willing to pay upwards of 20-100k for it. Comon seriously think about it.
Xaero Gouki Kriegor
1 spoil victor necro + 1 koss with wildblow + 1 norgu or jin/zhed with physical distraction =
gg 0 gp
Angel Develin
I would pay my hero's a new weapon for helping me beat the mission,
only if i could give them some ale......
Desires
I've been getting 50k a run...
cataphract
I've been offered 20k from each player to help them through the mission. That kind of money was tempting so I agreed. It took me 3 mobs to realize that not even Dwayna herself could not heal that team. So I said "buh-bye" and went on with my business.
Still, I wouldn't pay anything to get a run through this mission. It's fun and it can be done by a PUG. When I got masters there our team had two leavers and we still managed to kill Shiro. He's still a wuss like he was in Factions.
disarm76
Once you know how to do it (spoil victor) you hench/hero it easely...
So, 0 gold.
tmarosi
a week ago i payed for master on gates of madness 100k (it was cheap gor that time). now i see that prices are around 50k for master. if i need master there i would pay 50k for it
Amity and Truth
I personally wouldn't pay but simply from the amount of frustration in this mission you can be sure that a lot of people will pay something along the lines of 5 Plat.
The problem is, can you guarantee success? I somewhat doubt this, unless you're going with a 6 hero Team in which case 5 Plat won't pay off. If you're going in a full team... ugh, you probably haven't seen the things some PUGs can do.
darkdawn
3-5k if you get me master tho.
Cebe
we did masters last night...it was just so so easy.
So having done that I certainly would not pay anything to be ran through the mission. I think the only mission I would consider doing that for is Masters on Jennur's Horde.
ramma77
I will gladly pay you the grand total of Zero G
I have never paid for a run through a mission yet. never will. What is the point? if i struggle to beat it i will do it again and again until i work out how.
=HT=Ingram
If I can't do it myself or find a group to play with, well then I guess its time to hang up my hat and blow my head off. cause I sure as heck would not pay someone to DO a mission for me instead of playing it myself. Especially when its something any moron should be able to do in time and with friends that play from their alliances. If not, well then like I said time to leave and find some baby game to play. Cause not many games get much easier then Guild Wars to learn to play...
gestalt
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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
we did masters last night...it was just so so easy.
So having done that I certainly would not pay anything to be ran through the mission. I think the only mission I would consider doing that for is Masters on Jennur's Horde. Really? I admit Jennur's horde took me a number of tries, more than Gate of Madness, but now that I know how to do it I think I can reliably do it each time. Well Iguess with master you have to clear each staircase spawn. I actually ran up and got the harbinger and didnt' kill the margonites around him and didn't get master's so that split can be tricky if you actually ahve to clear the whole spawn. Non-masters is no problem at all though. Avatar of Balth is great on that mission. Eclair
A minion master solves all your problems on Jennur's Horde. You can easily take on 2+ mobs and still get away with no deaths in the party.
We did it with 2 people + 6 heroes. Basically, flag all the heroes close to the stairs, but close enough to the center to see a mob pass through. Have the other guy pull the mobs off the stairs (they can be pulled all the way down) and kill them.
Drazilus
I am not willing to pay anything. I can easily do it by myself.
zelira
Avatar of Leeroy and MM works wonders for Jennur's Horde.
As for Gates of Madness, 1k and a skill point. Wildblow for Koss.... fotovince
hmm I pay 12k. And i like to have a run
twentynine
Lol this is why PUG-ing is so horrendous. Half of the random people out there probably paid their way through the game.
byteme!
0GP....It's done easily with PUGS. Juat gotta make sure we're all on the same page. If the OP is not physically killing Shiro BY HIMSELF and doing missions by himself I don't see why anyone who's accompanying him should have to pay a penny. If people are just paying for his knowledge of the right build.....there are many builds that work not just 1 so we shouldn't have to pay for that either.
Spoil Victor - arguably the strongest against Shiro (from what I understand) Heavy Degen - hexes only since all condtions you put on him will just get transferred back to your team Wild Blow - Use it whenever Shrio is in a stance |
