uggh, sunspear general

dbunder

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

415

The Horror Show [HORR]

Got to the mainland recently, just saved Koss (and capped Barrage, woohoo!), now it's telling me I need Sunspear General to progress any further. I'm nearly 1,000 pts out. I didn't put much emphasis on farming points early on cause I thought it was pointless. I'll farm for greens or crafting mats for hours... but sunspear points? Meh.

What's a good place to farm points on the mainland? I don't have much of it open.

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

Very first explorable area on the mainland, just talk to the priests and clear the area. One trip should put you over the top.

Tiny Killer

Tiny Killer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Oshkosh, WI USA

Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]

I found that by always getting the bounty when I walked past a shrine, I made it past General in no time at all.

Peka

Peka

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

N/

i just took bounty while i was exploring

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Just kill the insects in Coast a few times :\ I dont see the problem people have...

Greygon

Greygon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Arkansas

Knights of the Republic (KOTR)

W/R

Go to Marga Coast. Get ALL Hunts activated. Kill everything. You will have Sunspear General in about 30-45 minutes.

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-.-

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Farm Sunspear Points and quest at the same time.

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

Getting to sunspear general isnt a problem at all, you either:

1)Take blessing from scouts everytime you explore, they are just outside each portal, dont be lazy. If you are, dont play.
2)Do some of the quest that gives you 100SSP each + (1)
3)Do (1) and go farm for greens in the area.

Any of the above actions will net you over 2500 SSP for general and i got over 7000 points doing (3) and i didnt even borther looking at the rank.

The worse possible thing you can do is in fact to farm SSP early in the game since you only get peanuts for points and am wasting your time, you just need 300 points to get both 15 point attributes and continue with the storyline. Dont borther farming SSP until you reach the mainland, then again we are telling you its not a chore at all if you look at it/do things differently.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Ya, getting to Sunspear General rank is almost a passive activity when you always obtain a bounty/blessing from those shrines.

... now what's really gonna get ya, is the fact that you have to do this for EVERY character you have.

Fluffyx

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

If you have already fought your way up to Gates of Desolation you can leave their from the south entrance and pick up the kournan bounty and get it in a few runs. Not to mention some LB points as well.

coldplay

coldplay

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

NYC

Daoine Sidhe

I just made to general by doing all the side quests

stevowonders

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

what i did was start any quest i can do and anytime i run by a priest i start asking for bounty and keep doing it over and over. each quest gives about 100 points and bounty in kourna gives +4 for each kill.

duncan99

duncan99

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Norway, Oslo

Glob of Ectospasm

can be done in 20 minutes outside the first mainland town

ramma77

ramma77

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

South Shields, England

The Psycho Titans

R/

exit yahlon haven east get bug hunt.. squish em all in under 3 minutes. rinse and repeat. 30 mins 1000 points.

dbunder

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

415

The Horror Show [HORR]

Thanks all! Was able to do a mix of clearing explorables and doing quests. Noticed the Elona quests were 100+ sunspear points so I just cleared areas on the way to those and was General within about 30 mins.

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

I was sunspear commander (6) before getting the consulate dock mission just from taking the bounty at every res portal and clearing every map I entered. I did not have to farm once. Plus the rewards from doing every quest helped as well. By the time I got to the point where I needed to free Koss and become General I only needed about 700 points. I forget the area... but take the bounty for Heket. Those guys are in large groups but a piece of cake to kill. I was General within before I knew it.

Darkpower Alchemist

Darkpower Alchemist

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

NYC

The Circle Of Nine[NINE]

E/N

I am a general on my ranger,first spear on my lvl 9 Paragon, and a commander on my Dervish since lvl 12.

Just always take the bounties,and avoid some groups until you get the bounty for them. It doesn't take you farming specifically for Sunspear points to be a general.

dbunder

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

415

The Horror Show [HORR]

I always took bounties, I just was very quest-based and didn't go out of the way to kill anything that wasn't directly in my path. But I didn't avoid aggro range of anything that was close to my path, either. But it looks like it'll be a lot easier to get sunspear points now, with the higher rewards per quest, more blessings on Kourna, a LOT more mobs on Kourna, and more than 1 sunspear point per kill.

Do you need to gain more ranks to progress in the story later? Just so I know to go out of my way to kill stuff once in a while so I don't get stuck like I did yesterday. Isn't the next rank something insane like 10k points?

Griffonclaw

Griffonclaw

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

to get to castellan, which is rank 8, you need 7500 sunspear points

FalconDance

FalconDance

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

...deep within the sylvan splendor...

Order of the Migrating Coconuts [ALBA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Griffonclaw
to get to castellan, which is rank 8, you need 7500 sunspear points I noticed a couple days ago that my ranger could no longer obtain any Sunspear-based bounties and wondered why. She's already reached Castellan - by picking up every bounty available as a matter of habit (hey, if you're going to erradicate the bad bugs/plants/Kournans, why not get a little extra for doing it ).

According to wiki, it is theoretically possibly to get the last rank.

random.name

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

South Africa

N/

I also made Castellan without even trying. I did farm for general when I needed to get it, and since then I have just taken bounties and did the quests. I have no idea when I got the rank though.

Paperfly

Paperfly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
I noticed a couple days ago that my ranger could no longer obtain any Sunspear-based bounties and wondered why.
The devs have posted that the method they intended for people to reach Spearmarshall rank hasn't been implemented yet. The assumption at the moment is that it'll somehow tie in with the missing Elite mission they'll be implementing in a month or three.
Quote:
According to wiki, it is theoretically possibly to get the last rank. Yup, you have to go from General to Spearmarshall without zoning (since once you change zones as a Castellan you can no longer get the bonus).

Since there's obviously no area in the game that'll give you 7,500 Sunspear points just by clearing it normally, this means you have to fight enemies with resurrection spells - the high-end Undead, basically. Kill all but one Monk or Paragon, run back out of range, wait for them to res up, repeat.

...So not really worth the hassle. I'm willing to wait for the update, myself.

Swinging Fists

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by dbunder
Do you need to gain more ranks to progress in the story later? Just so I know to go out of my way to kill stuff once in a while so I don't get stuck like I did yesterday. Isn't the next rank something insane like 10k points? Nothing currently in the game requires a Sunspear rank higher than General, at 2,500.

FYI - Castellan is 7,500 and Spearmarshal is 15,000 and is max.

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Double post

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Turning this into a thread about reaching Spearmarshall:

The high-end undead are NOT well-covered on Wiki or elsewhere that I've found. What skills do they use? (Obviously, I'm trying to think of a farming build for them.)

Although, come to think of it, farming things defended by monks is usually frustrating if you don't want to kill the monk first ... hmm, some mesmer action in the heroes might be called for ...

Paperfly

Paperfly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Undead monks are smiters first, healers second, so you don't really need to dedicate much firepower to them.

I took out a couple of groups quickly just to check their skills, so here's what I saw. Not a comprehensive list, but I think I nabbed the important ones:

Monks: Signet of Judgment, Life Bond, Shield of Absorption, Scourge Healing, Renew Life
Giants: Quicksand, Choking Gas, Debilitating Shot, can drop Heads (mesmers)
Dervishes: Scythe attacks plus Vow of Silence
Paragons: We Will Return!, Signet of Return
Warriors: Distracting Blow, For Great Justice!, Soldier's Strike
Eles: Enervating Charge, Gale, Glowstone, Obsidian Flesh
Necros: Vocal Minority, Well of Darkness, Parasitic Bond, Faintheartedness
Mesmers: Signet of Humility, Cry of Frustration, Ignorance

...So multiple anti-spell-targeting measures, you'll note. Also a couple of knockdowns, but the only real melee hate is Well of Darkness/Enervating Charge.

The only thing you'll really need to take worry about is that Quicksand. Giants keep the spirit up at all times, and it's a pain in the neck.