No love for the turkey!?

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

As hopefully all you know that thanksgiving is this week.

Now ive heard sevreal complaints saying "wtf no thanksgiving festival?"

Now ive also heard about other holdays without a festival Cough**chanukah**cough nowcant we have holiday events that all of America and others celbrate like this upcoming one? Or putting festivals for other religous things besides the ones that all cathlics celbrate. Halloween and christmas both are celebrate by only cathlics (or are meant for them).



To find the main purpose of this is MAKE MORE FESTIVALS FOR OTHER RELIGONS OR JUST DONT MAKE ANY!

dont find me racist im just standing up for all the ppl who dont celbrate christmas and hallween or dragon festival LOL

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Thanksgiving is a primarily American holiday. Guild Wars is a global game. Do the math.

Also, the events around the end of December are not holiday-specific. It doesn't specifically resemble Christmas or Hanukkah.

Somehow I think this post is primarily a Catholic-bashing.

Sidra

Sidra

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Join Date: Mar 2006

CT

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Halloween is a pagan ritualist holiday, and Christmas is a Christian holiday. Channukah, while it would be nice (myself being Jewish, proudly so, and raised so) is much too close to Christmas to work, because the majority of players will be athiest or christian, in america. Thanksgiving is also in between halloween and Christmas, and that might be a bit much. Maybe like, a seasonal festival (one for spring and summer) would be cool though. Should this be moved to Sardelac?

Eviance

Eviance

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

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Errm... you missed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween
Quote:
Halloween originated under a different name as a Pagan festival among the Celts of Ireland and Great Britain with Irish, Scots, Welsh and other immigrants transporting versions of the tradition to North America in the nineteenth century. Most other Western countries have embraced Halloween as a part of American pop culture in the late twentieth century.

Halloween is celebrated in most parts of the Western world, most commonly in the United States, Canada, the UK, Ireland, and with increasing popularity in Australia and New Zealand. In recent years, Halloween has also been celebrated in parts of Western Europe, such as Belgium, France and Spain.
And this might help to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas

Basically if you think about it, there was a reason that Cantha didn't have Halloween (because it's not generally celebrated over in Asian countries).
Christmas is celebrated in many ways shapes and forms through out MOST of the world during the months of December and January. GW does not call it Christmas, they call it Wintersday and they also have it extend for quite a lengthy period of time because it is not deemed "Christmas" which is but one day of the year - but Wintersday which can sorta encompass the general idea of the season which is giving gifts, throwing snowballs, and generally having a roaring good time and break from the usual.

Thanksgiving for each country if they celebrate it at all, is usually different, thus no love for the turkey!


@ Zinger, nah I think he's just ill informed is all.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

An in-game holiday for every occasion will just cheapen Halloween/Wintersday.

2 major week long holidays are enough.

Trvth Jvstice

Trvth Jvstice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

HALE

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidra
Halloween is a pagan ritualist holiday, and Christmas is a Christian holiday. Channukah, while it would be nice (myself being Jewish, proudly so, and raised so) is much too close to Christmas to work, because the majority of players will be atheist or Christian, in America. Thanksgiving is also in between Halloween and Christmas, and that might be a bit much. Maybe like, a seasonal festival (one for spring and summer) would be cool though. Should this be moved to Sardelac?
Around 90% of United States citizens profess to be either Christian or Catholic. Very very few are atheist. Not that I want this to become a religious discussion.

EDIT: Also, while Thanksgiving may be solely an American holiday, Guild Wars did have an event for the 4th of July aka Independence Day; The Dragon Festival.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

if we had a ton of holiday events the ones we do have wouldnt be as fun! Until then grab an ale and prep yourself for the next holiday, who knows... Kwansa in Elona???

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

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You should be with your family on Turkey Day. Not in front of a computer playing GW.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
You should be with your family on Turkey Day. Not in front of a computer playing GW.
What about when you get home?

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

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I think a whole festival would be overkill; but it would be a good excuse to add a giant turkey boss for a limited time that drops a special green. Perhaps a turkey baster hammer.....

Miss Persephone

Miss Persephone

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by SPIRIT OF THE SEA
Now ive also heard about other holdays without a festival Cough**chanukah**cough nowcant we have holiday events that all of America and others celbrate like this upcoming one? Or putting festivals for other religous things besides the ones that all cathlics celbrate. Halloween and christmas both are celebrate by only cathlics (or are meant for them).
Thanksgiving is a North American holiday. Now I don't know what the exact player figures are, but I'm guessing at least half the GW players live outside N. America. I'm European and Thanksgiving means nothing to me at all. Christmas and Halloween are much more global celebrations.

Secondly, I believe you were referring to CHRISTIANS and not just CATHOLICS. Catholics are only a sub-section of the entire Christian faith. Both Halloween and Christmas are celebrated the world over by people with no Christian faith, whereas you cannot say the say thing about Hannukah for example.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Admins Bane
An in-game holiday for every occasion will just cheapen Halloween/Wintersday.

2 major week long holidays are enough.
Agreed. It takes enough effort to organise the existing in-game events, to ask for more just seems greedy.

Dalimoor_Kalkire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

[DoA] - The Darknights of Ascalon

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Agreed. I think two is plenty. It gives the dev teams plenty of time to give us something fun to look forward to. Though, something in the spring or summer could be nice, but I'm happy as is for now. I'll stock up on ale in anticipation for Wintersday!

Phoenix Arrows

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

With many other ugly people

We Are All Pretty [ugly]

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BTW, the "Christmas" Festival is actually "Wintersday", which is sort of a combination of all holidays around that time.

GuildWars Combat

GuildWars Combat

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Canada

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In canada we have thanks giving in october..so if there was a general fall event it would include halloween lots of thanksgiving for differnt parts of the world and people would complain about that. Wintersday is a general december holiday kind of thing. halloween is more worldwide so instead of having thanksgiving they put a halloween event in because thanksgiving in the USA is not celebrated in other contrys

Rhershy8

Rhershy8

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Milwaukee, WI

The Kurzick [MoB]

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I still think they could have added a weekend event regarding thanksgiving. They could just call it a "harvest festival" (for lack of a batter term) to keep it global.

Bankai

Bankai

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

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Thanksgiving is also pretty close between Halloween and Wintersday. So instead of Anet working on bugfixes and new releases, they'll have to work the whole latter part of a year making events.

Plus, I still don't know what the heck thanksgiving actually is.

Tide to Go

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

I War Torn I [Torn]

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christmas is world wide..........everyone celebrates it in thier own way.......and halloween is just...fun...... but yes they should have diff set ups for each server

since they make the set up acouple days before the real event starts might as well do al lthe srverset ups

honeslty i dont care as longas its fun, has hats, and food.

Tide to Go

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

I War Torn I [Torn]

N/Me

honestly i dont care what we are celebrating as long as it has hats and potions

Bankai

Bankai

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

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Oh, and Wintersday is more like New year's eve.

Former Ruling

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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1) Thanksgiving is an American holiday...explain putting an event for it in a European and Asian game.

2) There is no "Christmas" event in Guild wars, theres a "Wintersday" event - that is closer to new years than Christmas. Its like putting all the major holidays into 1 so it doesnt discriminate. If you complain about Yule Caps and such in the game being "Christmas things" - remember Santa clause and Snowmen and such are about as linked to the birth of Christian's Jesus as the Easter bunny is to Jesus's ressurection....IE...not at all.

3) Halloween isn't a Religious holiday. The end of October was a time of many Pagan festivals to applease the gods of the harvest way back when, and the Pope decided at a point after that he'd put a religious spin on this festival to make it "holy" - and called it All Saint's Day. But this is far past, and todays "halloween" with the candy and the witchs and everything has nothing to do with either of the beforementioned festivals.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

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Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bankai
Oh, and Wintersday is more like New year's eve.
Yes, I think people miss this point. Wintersday is the Tyria New Year.. its not xmas!

It may as well be, but it isn't. They called it Wintersday so that everyone can enjoy it.

Faowri

Faowri

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mantle Assassins

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Christmas and Halloween have been a long way separated from their originating religions for a very long time now, aka commercialised and globally celebrated. Hence it's fine for games (and I know quite a few that do) to indulge in the ideas behind those festivals without being accused of supporting one religion/nation/culture over another. I'm neither pagan nor Christian and I celebrate both XD

Thanksgiving just isn't an international holiday the way those two are, so I don't really see a need for developing festivities around it.

broodijzer

broodijzer

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Join Date: Jan 2006

void

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if they add thanksgiving, I demand they also put sinterklaas in. Seriously, what is more fun than an old man with lots of servants in funny outfits who give presents to little kids?

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

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Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

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I'd love an easter event though, my mesmer wants bunny ears

makosi

makosi

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Yes, I think people miss this point. Wintersday is the Tyria New Year.. its not xmas!

It may as well be, but it isn't. They called it Wintersday so that everyone can enjoy it.
Yeah, us Euro + American people will instantly associate the snow, presents and trees with Christmas but there was no actual references to Christmas, Christianity or even Santa in the Wintersday event.

If there was Thanksgiving festival I wouldn't have a clue what was going on. In fact, I don't even know why people are thankful on that day.

Kay84

Kay84

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Netherlands

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Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
Yeah, us Euro + American people will instantly associate the snow, presents and trees with Christmas but there was no actual references to Christmas, Christianity or even Santa in the Wintersday event.

If there was Thanksgiving festival I wouldn't have a clue what was going on. In fact, I don't even know why people are thankful on that day.
Well the yule cap looks a lot like a santa hat :P


Quote:
Originally Posted by broodijzer
f they add thanksgiving, I demand they also put sinterklaas in. Seriously, what is more fun than an old man with lots of servants in funny outfits who give presents to little kids?
Yeah! Sinterklaas would get my vote as well! Though the idea of 'zwarte pieten' might offend some people.

FalconDance

FalconDance

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Join Date: Sep 2005

...deep within the sylvan splendor...

Order of the Migrating Coconuts [ALBA]

IF there were a change to the GW holiday schedule, then maybe a springtime festival and an autumn festival of some sort.

The existing festivals:
Dragon Festival in Cantha
"Halloween" in Tyria and in Elona
Wintersday in Tyria (and Elona?)

Please keep religion out of this.

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

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And what special "thanksgiving" things could be implemented? Hunting turkeys?

MegaMouse

MegaMouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

Warriors Of Melos WOM

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Maybe they should give us a quest that allows us to go turkey hunting. Turn all those anoying Imps into turkeys and give us some crazy reward for killing them.

Mega Mouse

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

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Well if Anet arnt allowed to do Easter it makes perfect sence they arnt allowed to do Thanksgiving. They simply want to keep everything as international as possible other wise they would alienate a large chunk of there fan base.

boxterduke

boxterduke

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

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Did not go thru the whole thread but just a side note that Thanksgiving comes in October in Canada.
Basically like others said, Halloween is just a celebration that even other RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOries that do not celebrate it are starting to do since its just fun to dress up in stuff.

Wintersday is not Christams, its just a celebration for the new year, the proof of that is that they gave out the holiday hats on new years and not christams night.

star firefly

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

[GoG]

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I'll participate in Thanksgiving festival only if it's will be an Addams family style XD

dmndidjit

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

There once was a Fall celebration in Cantha. It was called the Harvest Ceremony. It did not end well.

Gorebrex

Gorebrex

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa
I'd love an easter event though, my mesmer wants bunny ears
/eats bunnys ears
Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
Yeah, us Euro + American people will instantly associate the snow, presents and trees with Christmas but there was no actual references to Christmas, Christianity or even Santa in the Wintersday event.

If there was Thanksgiving festival I wouldn't have a clue what was going on. In fact, I don't even know why people are thankful on that day.
Festivus?
Quote:
Originally Posted by boxterduke
Did not go thru the whole thread but just a side note that Thanksgiving comes in October in Canada.
Basically like others said, Halloween is just a celebration that even other RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOries that do not celebrate it are starting to do since its just fun to dress up in stuff.

Wintersday is not Christams, its just a celebration for the new year, the proof of that is that they gave out the holiday hats on new years and not christams night.
As I recall, Wintersday event ends on New Years, so thats not really proof that its the Tyrian New Year, it seems more like ANets giving the hats away at the end of the event. And I would like to see a few morw major holidays in Tyria, even though Im too busy killing mobs and whatnot to participate.

Lyphen

Lyphen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Only the US celebrates it this week. Canada had it last month, and Europe/Asia don't even bother. There's no reason.

Amorfati87

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

House of Moon

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I will NOT be happy until they give us....

Festivus...yes, that's right...a Festivus for the Rest of us...

broodijzer

broodijzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

void

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorebrex
As I recall, Wintersday event ends on New Years, so thats not really proof that its the Tyrian New Year, it seems more like ANets giving the hats away at the end of the event.
nope, it lasted till about a week after new year.

broodijzer

broodijzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

void

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edit: doublepost

Gorebrex

Gorebrex

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

It HAS been a year, and I just forgot. Most likely it is Christmas though, as giving presents on New Years isnt as well-known as on Christmas. IDK, dont really care one way or the other actually lol

Mitchel

Mitchel

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Almkerk, The Netherlands

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Why would someone eat a overgrown chicken on a day they call thanksgiving? Please explain.