Heroes' AI, something interesting

I found the AI of heroes are somewhat weird and interesting.

Sample1. Interruptors:
OKAY! They cheat like mobs! Whenever an enemie cast a spell (except 1/4 sec ones). One of your interruptor will get him, even it's not his current target. And the AI knows each other, they won't use interrupting skill to interrupt the same skill at the same time. They will use by turns.

Sample2. MM with Jagged Bones and Nova:
No doubt that the MM is very smart, but the minions are not.
MM hero can Jagged Bones/Death Nova dying minions and maintains all minions even you go afk for 15 or more mins.
But minions that melees are the problem. The current AI makes them fool around or stop following the master sometimes.

Sample3. Echo FoC nuker:
Arcane Echo, FoC, Suffering, Desecrate, Defile enchantment, Sig of Lost Soul, Sig of Sorrow, Rez

Hero can't use this build wisely. First, he uses FoC immediately when it is available, he rarely casts suffering first to boost the damage of FoC. Second, He Arcane Echo druing battles and then finds a target that is below 50% so he uses Sig of Lost Soul and removes Arcane Echo, he does this combo often...

The worse thing is the hero won't use Desecrate/Defile easily if enemies are not enchanted. We just want him to spam these huge armor-ignoring AoE spells, but he rarely casts them. Even you let him bring ONLY Desecrate/Defile, most of the time he will choose to wand instead.

As for Sig of Sorrow, AI uses it often without considering if the target is near a corpse. 30 sec recharge makes it a waste of slot.
If you let the hero bring Barbs instead, most of the time he will just spam Barbs only. *Sigh*
We want AI to use Desecrate/Defile more often, but use Sig of Sorrow conditionally.

Sample4. Echo SS / Mark of Pain:
The same, hero can't use Arcane Echo wisely, he often copies "parasitic bond". And he can't use the cover hex wisely except you don't let him bring many skills to choose and he will cover SS with parasitic bond.
If you make a hero with echo and mending, will he accomplish the "legendary combo"? I am not sure now, but AI seems to avoid using upkeep enchantments.

Sample5. Healer/Proters:
Basically AI healers are good, they can heal, kite and use interruption to maintain energy. They know each other and will avoid casting the same enchantment on the same target at the same time. They can even do Aegis chain wisely.
But if you are runing pure healers, they often over-heal the same target and waste energy. Though it's resonable that they are designed to save dying allies with most effort.


Sample6. Ele Nuker:
Glyph of lesser Energy, Searing Flames, Glowing Gaze, Liquid Flame, Fire Attunement, Leech Sig, Power Drain, Rez.

Well this build runs pretty good by heroes. They will cast Fire Attunement, use
Glyph of lesser Energy->Searing Flames->Liquid Flame->Glowing Gaze->Searing Flames, or other combos. Searing Flames is very easy to use, and they can interrupt and gain energy back.


Sample7. Sin with Deadly Paradox and Feigned Neutrality
I want her to do her combos and use Deadly Paradox + Feigned Neutrality when she is in danger. But the hero can't use it properly. Unnecessary cast of Deadly Paradox to disable attack skills, not use Feigned Neutrality after Deadly Paradox or attacks while Feigned Neutrality is on and removes it...


OKAY, anyone wants to share your experience with heroes' AI or anything interesting?

I had Goren using Dwarven Battle Stance, Counter Blow, and On your knees or Dwarven Battle Stance, Renewing Smash, Staggering Blow, and Auspicious Blow. He runs it fine, interrupts on each attack when DBS is on but by the time he is low on energy, he can't keep it up. Unless he's given a zealous hammer which I haven't really tested it out yet.

Wait... Are you complaining that heroes cant make the choices that a real breathing person can? OMG!1!

They're AI. Live with it. AI is not made with the brain you have.

I'm not sure, but I think AI ignore expertise, and never uses Rampage as One unless I tell her to or if she has more than 25 energy. Haven't done tests though.

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My Olias won't use Death Nova on the minions at all. Or Tainted Flesh, which is the elite I gave him. Other folks report the same problem?

In what build is Death Nova being using more or less properly?

One thing I've noticed is that a hero will use any spell that deals damage fairly indiscriminately. Often, that's fine because damage = good.

However, many spells have conditional effects with useless damage as an 'afterthought' or side-effect, such as Ash Blast, that the AI will never wait around for the condition to be met to use it with.

I could understand spamming Stoning, which deals fine damage regardless of the condition being met, all things considered, but spells like Steam and Ash Blast?


Also, never bring a spammable exhaustion skill, or your Elementalist Hero will have a full bar of exhaustion in no time flat >_> Wasn't paying attention and my hero was a little too trigger happy on the Obsidian Flame -_-

Another thing on the monks (they have the worst AI) is they will try their best to heal pets. I could care less if the pet dies he has a ranger that can res him. STOP HEALING THE PET!!!!

This seriously needs to be changed.

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Heroes are crazy, RC heroes remove blinding before its even on... I used draw condition on the RC and on the exact moment I used Draw she used RC... really weird...

Downside of prot heroes is that they never pre-prot unless you tell them...

I gave Koss Distracting Blow, and he even interupts reversal of damage with it o.0 not just once with luck... no more times its like at the moment you press the butten the signal is sent and before the signal gets their he already knows it

Heroes should be banned from HA, you can keep em in PvE but please take them out HA

Yah Rc on AI monks are fun. Take wearying(sp) strike they usally have weakness off before the next attack.

Few things I've noticed:

1. Signets will be used... rarely. Maybe it's just the monks, maybe they have to be on Attack but on Flee or Guard I cannot get them to use Signets. My Olias has no problem with Signet of Lost Souls, he will use that the instant something drops below 50% and I love it. Signet of Devotion, Boon Signet, Signet of Rejuvenation... I was tempted to make toon with a lot of sigs but just imagined them standing there wanding. Even my Koss before I stopped using him would rarely use Healing Signet, forcing me to use Lion's Comfort (not useful when I want him spamming Wild Blow).

2. Blood is Power will never get cast. Maybe it was because I had too many health sac skills on the bar, or the AI refuses to deal that much damage to itself (even at full). In general, I can't seem to make energy management skills "work" on my heroes if it has to target someone else. Sometimes I'll have an Energizing Finale used on me, so why won't BiP be used?

3. Not sure why today, but my Dunkaroo decided to kite with full energy while a Jade Scarab Vile Touched him to death with the assistance of the -1 degen from its Parasitic Bond. I love that they kite, but really they should know to stop and heal.

I actually do think you mean couldn't care less twicky.

By saying I could care less then this is your level of caring

0 1 2 3 <4> 5 6 7 8 9 10


Let's say you care at a 4. By caring at that level you have a moderate caring towards pets and could care less.


You stated that pets don't matter to you at all! There for your caring level would be the the lowest, at around 0.

<0> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10


That would be your caring level towards pets, the lowest it can go and you couldn't care less.

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I haven't done extensive testing with my monks but whatever builds I'm currently using (basic heal and prot) I stay alive through all that I need to. So I guess there isn't major issues with me =/

EDIT: I may just be restating the already restated but isn't Dunk more of a healer and Tahl more of a prot? Just saying incase you want to switch your builds around.