Nightfall Rare Weapons Price Guide

Please only post if you know what you are talking about...

People pay more for rarity. There is no ifs and buts here, its a fact set in stone. Why should something be worth barely anything just because there is a collectors/crafters equivalent.

Sold Dual Winged Axe req.11 for 10k

Brought Fiery Gladius 15^50, +30 for 80k
Sold same Fiery Gladius +5energy, +30 for 100k +5ecto

Sold Dual Winged Axe req.10 for 30k

istani shield req9 sold for 120k

Is this good
Bought fiery Blade axe req 9 +30hp 15^50 64k

on the staffs i got a portal for 10 k eather i was ubber lucky or there more comon than ya pricing them 4 i see them drop a fair bit thow not many perfects

child ofthe searing, thanks for the feedback, i will keep a look out at the casters prices and adjust accordingly.

Thanks to all who provided updates.

Seems like HOH drops inscribable too.
-Runic Blade
-Legendary Sword
-Gothic Sword
-Celestial Shield
-Crystalline
-Dwarvern
-Serpant

All "former" vanity skins from HoH will drop with inscription slots now.

Feel free to add on to the list, thanks.

Finally sold my Req 9 Canthan skinned Fire staff 20/20 (inscribable) for 100k. I'm sure if I had waited a bit longer I could have sold it for more, but MEH.

Bought Req 9 Guardian Branch 12k

Guys,
how about:
- Bone Charms focus (Death Magic)
- Majestic Focus (Domination Magic)
- Chimeric Eye (Illusion Magic)

Rare or not?

sold 9 healing req eternal flame wand 55k

Alright, time for some homework. Sorry for the long list.

So happy to see caster gear getting some recognition here! Yay! Ty kobey! (and you're right ... a separate caster skin list might be too tricky to manage)

Some things I think are rare to add to your list ...

Avian Axe
Spiky War Hammers (inscribable versions exist)
Kournan Defender (comes in strength for sure, I have a pending bid for 60k on my r9 str 30/5/20)
Sea Purse Shield (comes in tactics for sure)
Tribal Shield for Paragons (different skin than for warriors)
Goldleaf Defender for paragons (see A LOT fewer of these than the Aureate Aegis. I have one in command. Don't know if they drop as motivation, too.)
Skull Longbow
Bladed Recurve Bow
Spiked Recurve Bow
Gothic swords and serpent axes are dropping in inscribable versions now.

Ok, here's the caster stuff I can think of that seems very popular or at least semi-rare. Some of it may not be worth the trouble to list because of very low demand/price.

Dead Scepters (soul reaping Necro wand, haven't seen but a couple, not too popular)
Spiral Rods (curses Necro wands, haven't seen many of these either)
Bone Spiral Rods (death Necro wands, supposed to be VERY rare and desired by MM's)
Wailing Staves (death necro staff)
Boneclaw Staff (another death necro staff)
Pyrewood Staves (fire magic staff, think it's a semi to fairly rare skin)
Dead Staves (troublesome because they come in many different reqs for different caster classes, but it's the same skin that was very expensive pre-NF b/c they only dropped from undead.)
Holy Rods (the gold ones aren't exactly rare, but in demand b/c unlike the collector holy rods, the gold ones can be dyed.)
Divine Staves (both in DF and healing reqs, haven't seen a prot req one yet. I think healing is more rare than DF req.)
Portal Staves (already up, but they come with different damage types, fire, earth, cold, lightning. I've seen people looking for a specific damage type. Someone wtb a fire dmg one for 50k)
Voltaic Wands, energy storage reqs, seems at least semi rare
Crystal Wands, I only know of inspiration reqs, seem pretty rare
Metal/Canthan head water staves, too
"talon" or "claw" grim cestas (death req offhand for necros, I have a req 9 with 20/20 mods on it. The high bid is 100k right now, but I think that's somewhat of a fluke with a few MM's fighting over it. Target is probably 50-70k.)
"medusa" skin accursed icons (curses req offhand for necros)
"knife" skin blood idols (blood req offhand for necros)
spined focus (blood req offhand for necros)
skull brush (curses req offhand for necros)
Wooden Chakrams (mesmer offhand, illusion for sure, maybe domination, too)
Stone Chakrams (mesmer offhand, domination or illusion)
Writing Focus (rit offhand, not sure what req)
Eerie Focus (rit offhand, communing req)
Scepters of the Forgotten (ok, it seems like there's a lot of these, but I think that's because they come in many different requirements for all the caster classes. If you look for ones with just a certain requirement, they do seem rare ... and a lot of buyers are really into getting max damage from their wands right now.)
Same as Scepters of the forgotten goes for Silver and Wooden boar scepters.

So here are some results of mine from the following three recent or active sales threads and in game.

thread from a couple weeks ago (sale histories stored in my first bump post on page 2)
thread from lately
hi end thread from lately

Ok, I have trouble keeping track of where and how much I bought stuff for. Not that I'm trying to scam people, but I do tend to buy stuff for 10k or less when someone that doesn't know what it is offers. :S

Let's see, working from memory here ... in game:

r9 aureate lamp 60k sold (I think the posted target for these is way too low)
r9 holy vial 50k sold (I think the posted target for these is too low)
r12 (but otherwise perfect inherent) canthan, lantern fire staff 40k sold (buyer snapped it up right away)
r9 tactics sea purse shield 70k sold (bought for 5e and added my own +30 and 5/20 ... mods really do count when they're more than 10% of the item cost, but it's still probably not wise to spend much money modding weapons for resale.)

Via Guru threads:
r12 avian axe 5k sold
r9 vabbian scimitar 5k sold
r12 desolation sword 4k sold
r10 inscrib brute sword 20k sold
r13 desolation maul 3k sold
r10 ancient scythe 15k sold
r9 nightmare scythe 32k sold
r9mot vabbian defender 15k sold
r9mot tribal shield 25k sold
r10 clouded spear 10k sold
r9dom stone chakram 7k sold (think I bought it for 5k or less, but there was only one bidder)
r9 blessed chalice 25k sold 2x
r11 holy vial, 25k sold
r9 holy vial, 37k sold
r11 canthan fire staff, 35k sold
r9 holy rod, 10k sold
r9 dead scepter, 10k sold
r13 blessed chalice, 5k sold
r10 shadow axe, 5k and 10k sold
r10 canthan metal earth staff, 8k sold
r10 metal air staff, 50k sold
r9 orrish earth staff, 100k+2e sold
r9 stony earth staff, 50k sold
r9 voltaic wand, 15k sold
r9mot vabbian tower shield, 5k sold

I'm skipping the stuff I sold for 1k before I knew what it was.

Cheers,
Luny

I'd say reasonably rare.

Sold (all i can think of, way more than this but these come to mind recently):

req10 Dual Winged Axe 24k (responded to wtb)
req12 purple fellblade 15k - very fast

req9 iridescent prism, crapmods, 15k (a bit low but i had extras)
req11 orrian earth staff 25k - very fast (wanted to get rid of it)
req8 non max aureate lamp 5k (guy knew it was non max, go figure, +10e)
req9 holy rod (20%hsr, 5e) 70k *non inscribable, this was divine rod with HSR 20% prot, and since we can't make that in NF (Anet: we need wand wrappings of attributes) this'd raise the price. Plus the guy was desperate for an item to match his holy vial... so imo special case... or maybe not . this IS the perfect boon prot wand).
r10 scrying glass staff - 15k (responded to wtb, wanted to clear inventory, can go higher, nice skin)

req12 Fiery Blade axe 35k (~30min wts) crap mods


MODS COUNT A LOT. The myth that they don't is wrong (well duh it's a myth ). For items that are semi rare to common, mods are 80% of the value. For items that are fairly rare mods count less, but drop the price ~10% or so. For many caster items, even rare caster skins, the mods are worth 50% or more of the item (Forget me Not, HCT20%x2 combos). For items that are rare (~100kish) you will get lazy buyers not wanting to search for the mods to make the item perfect and they will only touch the item if it's perfect, whatever that definition of perfect may be (which can be tough for casters ). Lazy buyers are really common if you advertise "rare skins" - so slap some sort of perfect mod on it somewhere and at the very least a 15>50 or +5 energy inscrip. Only on super high end 'I got a r9 runic blade in HoH' do mods not matter.

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kobey: My comments on Cr3ator's prices (most are good, some are way off imo)

Portal staffs: are more common than that price indicates - I haven't seen any go above 50k, with nice mods, and that was a fire damage one.
Jeweled staffs: also disagree with the 50-80k price range, but not hugely. I have not had any takers on a r9 one at 60k at all, so <60k at the very least. I would say 40-45k or so with nice mods.
Divine symbols: p/c should be a bit higher (40-60k perhaps, or 40-50k, definitely high end range of the one listed)
rest of the prices are fairly good.

Additions to rare caster for sure:

Eternal flame wands - unsure of sell price, they're rarer than holy rods by a bunch, but I've only bought these for what i considered a good price (20k for r9)
Aureate lamp - 60k+ r9s with good mods, demand fluctuates but it's the most popular monk offhand atm (hot +++) (everyone having a blessed chalice & holy vial already who wants one).

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Nice job on the updating; most things seem very accurate.

Thats a whole load of info you gathered LicensedLuny. How long did you spent? Thanks alot. I have added kournan defender and sea purse shield into the list, and got the prices from doing a search through guru. Added a couple of casters item in too.

Edited some of the prices.

Hmmm hope this do not spark off another mods do or do not add price arguement. Adding on to scyfer comment, I do feel that mods adds to the price if and only if, the buyer wishes to have that mod. You don't expect me to pay another 50k for a sundering and fortitude mod if i am going to remod it to vamp and defense, right?

And with that said, if you mod the item yourself, you are limiting yourself to a smaller potential market. Instead of opening your item to WTB Flamberge, you strink your market to WTB sundering flamerge of Fortitude. Hope i don't confuse anyone, hehe

Oh yeah, I agree that the 20/20 +30hp "perfect" trend is ridiculous and expecting 50k extra for that is as well, but what I meant is this: having no mods on an item lowers the value quite a bit, compared to having almost any max mod on any item. Imo this is true more for caster items, where most classes have certain preference that they'd almost always like to see over any other (eles = HCT mods + whatever else, monks = energy, HSR and then health mods, necros: 20/20s usually, maybe att +1 20%, ritualists = energy and then health). I'd be hardpressed to find a ritualist jumping for joy at HCT mods at all for example on a spawning staff or a necro desiring a 10/10 on a death wand. So those prices -for caster items- that were quoted imo include having at least something class + item appropriate on the item. (I guess my comment was 80% geared at caster items, maybe a big difference between caster + non caster items).

Sorry about the slight off topic, but I figured maybe this would help people reading this & wondering at the caster prices quoted. There are a lot fewer ideal options on caster items than on say, swords, because there are a lot more attributes to worry about & fairly broad trends that certain classes and/or skills in various attributes (or things that are plain useless - for example, the casting of spirits cannot be sped up by mods).

Apologises for my misinterpretation of what you meant. Thought you were talking about mods in general (and i kept thinking about melee weapons, hehe). Yeah, what you said about the casters mods do have a point. There is a certain preference of mods for certain casters i guess.

And thanks for the update in price too.

Thanks for the list update!

Yeah, I agree with adding the silly ... er, I mean the leet sundering mods and/or paying 20k+ for perfect fortitude mods is a waste in most every case where you intend to sell the item.

But the mods really do seem to count for shields and caster items, since the popular (some with good reason) mods for those are almost as much or more than the actual item itself. Not everyone WTB something is willing to invest more time WTB the mods for it later. Also, I'm concerned by a lot of the sellers I see just sure their crap-modded shield is worth 30k because this list says so ... when in fact, most people in the market either don't want it if it doesn't already have good mods or already know they'd have to spend another 15k-40k+ and a fair amount of time looking for mods they want to add.

If the prices come down pretty significantly for the +30 handles and the 20% forget me not's, etc., then yeah, mods won't matter again.

But for the time being, perhaps a better explanation would be something like, "don't expect to get your money back if you pay full price for mods you put on an item to sell. And consider that your item's value may be affected by mods if the popular mods for said item are more than 25% of the skin's base PC."

I don't know ... few people read the fine print anyway and most of the casters need low req on their staves for wanding things to death without spending too many points in their build's main attribute. Trading in Kamadan makes me even less likely to join PUGs. If I wanted to make serious money, I'd get into the low req, 15>50 wand market!

Oh, and it took me ... maybe an hour to read through my histories and write that post. Took me about 3 and half weeks of trading (from completely clueless as to what I was doing beyond the OP in the PC stickies to ... um, slightly less clueless about the things that seemed interesting to me along the way! Still, proudly, an ever-newb! Though I must admit, some of my characters have snatched up some pretty gold-texted, rare-skinned gear to replace their collector pieces ... the golds will need ~200k worth of mods to match collector stats, though. )

sold:
ruby maul req 9 (only 15^50 mod) - 40k
desolation maul req 9 (crap mods) - 50k
briarwood scythe req 9 (zealous, enchanting, 15^50) - 55k
briar blade req 10 (+5e enchantments20) - 40k
salient sword req 10 (zealous, enchantments20, 15^50) - 30k
shield of the lion +30hp/+10 vs cold req 9 - 35k

Sold Fiery Blade Axe req 11... 15k (I know it's too low but I felt lazy...)
got sick of spamming wts and btw I dislike spamming wts