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Dobermann

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

25 Nov 2006 at 09:40 - 1

Hi guys, this is my 1st thread. Is anyone else rly annoyed with A-Nets infamous "Nerf-Bomb"? I cant farm ANYWERE now, so i have no money. You can only get 2k balth faction per day at Great Temp of Balth, so i cant get any good skills cos i never get a monk in RFA (or all teams in TA are pro, and i always get some legand like Brehon or Power in HA)

. If you agree, and want to see some Nerfs being Nerfed (removing the nerf) Then type /sign pls. I'm struggling to enjoy GW atm because of all the nerfing..

i rly liked it but i cant now, all i want is the game to be a bit easier.

Also, pls post other ideas A-Net could Un-Nerf and type /sign

If you wish to type /notsign, then do, but pls give an explanation.

Sorry to have wasted ur time if u dont want to do anything here but its an issue i feel strongly about

/sign

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

25 Nov 2006 at 10:11 - 2

You can still farm, just not the exact same way as before. Such changes to the game encite ingenuity in the players.

Anet considers the full impact of a nerf before they impliment it. No matter how many people "sign" this; they're not going to change it back.

dunky_g

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

[SNOW]

25 Nov 2006 at 10:21 - 3

What would be the point in making the game easier.. no offence but making farming more challenging will make it more productive in the long run because there will be less people doing it.

/notsigned

electrofish

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

25 Nov 2006 at 10:22 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

You can still farm, just not the exact same way as before. Such changes to the game encite ingenuity in the players.

Anet considers the full impact of a nerf before they impliment it. No matter how many people "sign" this; they're not going to change it back.

^ What the above poster said, I think the changes keeps the game challenging and no, farming's not completely dead, just takes more innovation to do so.

I do miss the run ouside unwaking waters though

havn't had that much fun since they nerfed balth aura.

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

25 Nov 2006 at 10:54 - 5

I have never farmed and have no money problems, or trouble getting good skills, or trouble getting more than 2k Balth faction, or anything you mentioned.

Bankai

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

Mo/E

25 Nov 2006 at 11:05 - 6

Have you ever thought of playing a monk yourself in RA? Ofcourse noone will play a monk if they just whine about never getting one. Take the initiative, make people happy.

Selerious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Veneratio Tutela

R/Me

25 Nov 2006 at 11:32 - 7

/notsigned

Farming is nowhere near dead, It's like it has always been one area is overfarmed, pack up and go to another area, there are plenty that open up to compensate.

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

25 Nov 2006 at 11:38 - 8

Nothing has been nerfed.

Amity and Truth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/N

25 Nov 2006 at 11:40 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Nothing has been nerfed.

Yay, let's play the word-nazi game again \o/

Amity and Truth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/N

25 Nov 2006 at 11:48 - 10

Dobermann, have a look at GWGurus Farming Section. There are a couple of threads (as allways) and even post-nerf, some of the old builds still work (like killing annoying little spiders).

About Random Arena... it's hard to not go on a 5-8 winstreak there. Depends on the time you're playing though. When it's mostly morning in the major realms you'll meet lots of bad players, the comptetion gets higher as time moves on and dwindles again after a peak.
Think along the lines of 55 HP Monks who don't cast Protective Spirit, Boonprots which are not capable of dealing with the dazed condition on them, the rumored Healing Signet/Frenzy warrior. Monks that refuse to kite because they think running is lame.
You can go in with no skills at all at some times and still come out with a few points.

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

25 Nov 2006 at 11:49 - 11

Farming is not dead, and this is exactly why I made this thread.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10080938

/notsigned, for obvious reasons.

Aera

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm]

E/

25 Nov 2006 at 11:58 - 12

/stopwhininganduseyourbrain

Cow Tale

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ocean Shores, Washington

Last Sun Rise

W/Mo

25 Nov 2006 at 12:26 - 13

LOL AT THE ABOVE POST! farming is as easy as it ever was.

Feme Assassin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Greece

Reign of Heroes[ROH]

25 Nov 2006 at 12:35 - 14

you can still farm trolls or vermins or whaever you want but now takes more time thats all so stop crying and play the game

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

25 Nov 2006 at 13:06 - 15

Farming is not dead, just wounded. Takes a little more time and effort, but that is good. It's like 'natural selection'. Most of the players adapt and continue, but the brain dead fall by the side of the road, holding out their tin cups and asking for alms.

P.S. A thread with whining and potential flames. Countdown for closure begins ............................................. now!

Tera

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England

Society of Souls [Argh]

E/

25 Nov 2006 at 13:06 - 16

farming has been nerfed, but like a few people have said it just takes a few extra brain cells. so basically:
'deal with it'
you'd be complaining the game was to easy if they didnt shake things up every now and then.

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

25 Nov 2006 at 13:23 - 17

If you need money buy low sell high...and actually use your brain instead of whining about farming.

Dark Dragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

RTD

E/

25 Nov 2006 at 13:28 - 18

yoiu have no money?? just play the game, i've never farmed a day in my GW life and i still get quite alot of money from just questing and exploring.

and as others have stated farming is not dead just harder.

and in RA its not that hard to win.

sinican

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

SAW

D/

25 Nov 2006 at 13:32 - 19

/NotSigned

still able to farm... builds needed tweaked still easy... guess not for those without concept of game mechanics and build alterations...

but sure enough some of these new builds will become popular on guru because some people love to brag about their awsome abilities to farm with someone elses build... give it time... nightfall is still new

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

25 Nov 2006 at 14:35 - 20

I have all Elite and non elite Elementalist spells, all non elie monk ones and a lot of many others, full armor sets and I still have over 100k unused gold in my storage for emergencies. Not a single goldpiece of those signet and kill purchases came from faming.

Now tell me:
- Do you identify anything before selling it?
- Do you pick up all items, including white ones?
- Do you need more that 4 o 5 platinum per day?

Farming was not meant to be but in a couple of places (trolls, verming...) and never was meant to be something very quick, like getting 2k per run in 20 minutes. If they notice people get a lot of gold in a few time in any area, they'll change it so you get less or you have to spend more time.

Play normally the game. Go for the fun, not for the cash.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

25 Nov 2006 at 14:48 - 21

I thought that trolls in droks and minos in elona were only suitable for bots, since the profit is so small. The only thing I've heard about troll was that it was used for powerleveling.

One place in Tyria where is still works just as fast as before, perhaps a minute or two longer, is the desert, the map with Kepkhet. Ritualist simply plows through that entire map, with exception of hydras. 5k from items + golds/mods, and a cheap green (3k).

As for farming, Elona is a goldmine right now. You also need to consider, that just like with other content, Anet hints at farmers to buy the next chapter. A very simple demonstration is the Spirit bond change, which was replaced with Shield of Absorbption. Runes are at an all time high, and they drop frequently in mid-level maps in NF.

But trolls, vermin and minos have become so slow long before NF, that even bots stopped going there.

Corpselooter

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands, Woerden

Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

R/

25 Nov 2006 at 14:49 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dobermann

Hi guys, this is my 1st thread. Is anyone else rly annoyed with A-Nets infamous "Nerf-Bomb"? I cant farm ANYWERE now, so i have no money. You can only get 2k balth faction per day at Great Temp of Balth, so i cant get any good skills cos i never get a monk in RFA (or all teams in TA are pro, and i always get some legand like Brehon or Power in HA)

. If you agree, and want to see some Nerfs being Nerfed (removing the nerf) Then type /sign pls. I'm struggling to enjoy GW atm because of all the nerfing..

i rly liked it but i cant now, all i want is the game to be a bit easier.

Also, pls post other ideas A-Net could Un-Nerf and type /sign

If you wish to type /notsign, then do, but pls give an explanation.

Sorry to have wasted ur time if u dont want to do anything here but its an issue i feel strongly about

/sign

You fail at life, learn on how to adapt new things.
Seriously, just because mino's and vermins got red engine gored for monks and warrior doesn't mean world has ended and farming is impossible.

Rusty Deth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Woodland Realm

Mo/N

25 Nov 2006 at 15:18 - 23

I can still do FoW, Tombs, and Sorrow's Furnace...

Oh wait I join groups to go into those. IMHO those are more rewarding than solo farming anyday.

I only solo farm when I need quickcash. But I perfer the others for ecto's, shards, and greens.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

25 Nov 2006 at 15:19 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antheus

I thought that trolls in droks and minos in elona were only suitable for bots, since the profit is so small. The only thing I've heard about troll was that it was used for powerleveling.

But trolls, vermin and minos have become so slow long before NF, that even bots stopped going there.

NOTHING is suited for bots.
Bot are forbidden.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

25 Nov 2006 at 15:22 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

NOTHING is suited for bots.
Bot are forbidden.

Just because something is forbidden, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Were you ever in Elona before that place got change? Why were there 50+ Mo/W in exactly the same, non-dyed scar patterns? Coincidence? 24/7 coincidence?

Some farming areas were perfectly suited for bots. It originally started with Twin Serpent Lakes outside Riverside province. Until that place got so revamped it's impossible to farm there now.

So things always change. But the difference is, bots can't adapt. Players can.

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

25 Nov 2006 at 15:32 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dobermann

well then, anyone gonna show me how to and were to farm money? i got f**l all money, p**s all faction and FARMING IS UN-DOABLE. I.E Elona-Necro-55 The mino's get to 50% health and run like wammos in RA (seriously nooby). It takes me 6 mins to get killed at Elona. Trolls, same problem wid my war cept i dun die. Griffons-necro-55 run like wammos in RA. Errrm, were else, oh yea, my old fave is f**ked now. Vermin-War they run away.

Now for the faction problem. I cant get no good teams cos i cant get any good skills cos of faction, ive tried doing monk... the outcome didnt please my team.

"whats the point of making the game easy" sombody said. Its not hard........ its imposbile

/ragegw

Ive made 800k since Nightfall came out and I dont play much. Stop whining you clearly are incapable of using your brain to make gold. And gotta love the caps lock key being stuck.

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

25 Nov 2006 at 15:46 - 27

do you farm with 55 monk or 55 necro?
congrats! a.net is STILL trying to fix the economy YOU ruined... now start using ur brain or go play some other game for brainless ppl. I made up to 1 milion gold with my mesmer, warrior and with my elementalist. And i never farmed with 55 monks or stuff like it (call me genius if u want)

Its realy none of OUR buiness if YOUR lack of inteligence is bothering you.

MegaMouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

Warriors Of Melos WOM

E/N

25 Nov 2006 at 15:49 - 28

/NOT SIGNED

The whole reason that A-Net and NC-Soft nerfed farming is it was getting out of hand and starting to ruin the ingame economy (the economy is still out of control though). I personaly just like to go out and kill things, to me the drops are a bonus. I can and have made better than 10-15k in one area just killing everything and picking up all the goodies, but the only reason that I will imediatly return to an area is to farm for lightbringer points (The Realm Of Torment is my favorite due to the fact that everything that can be killed there can give points). And even going into that area I still come out with a lot of nice weapons and runes. The only thing that I am upset about is the AOE nerfing, I can understand a couple skills needed nerfing (Fire Storm for one) but now they have it almost impossible for an Elementalist to get anywhere because almost all of an Ele's skills are AOE, and running after monsters is not what I like to do. So in the end the developers nerf what they think are exploits and cheats which is fine to me.

Mega Mouse

The Pointless

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Stuck in the UK

Rage International [RAGE]

W/Me

25 Nov 2006 at 17:05 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dobermann

WERE? WERE THE HELL SHOULD I FARM? THE ANTI-AoE HAS RUINED GW, I GOT NO MONEY, I HAVE TO BEG FOR MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!

Riiiiiiiiiight, so because monsters now have the common sense to get the hell out of an AoE attack (like any sensible human player that pays attention to the rest of their screen and not just their meters), you reckon GW is rubbish.

NEXT!

Dobermann

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

25 Nov 2006 at 19:42 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

I have all Elite and non elite Elementalist spells, all non elie monk ones and a lot of many others, full armor sets and I still have over 100k unused gold in my storage for emergencies. Not a single goldpiece of those signet and kill purchases came from faming.

Now tell me:
- Do you identify anything before selling it?
- Do you pick up all items, including white ones?
- Do you need more that 4 o 5 platinum per day?

Farming was not meant to be but in a couple of places (trolls, verming...) and never was meant to be something very quick, like getting 2k per run in 20 minutes. If they notice people get a lot of gold in a few time in any area, they'll change it so you get less or you have to spend more time.

Play normally the game. Go for the fun, not for the cash.

1.Yes i do, normly resulting in a loss of money determining the value of the new wepon price and the cost of each ID...
2.Ye
3.not "per day" would be nbice tho to see someone selling a nice wepon and me being able to buy it

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

25 Nov 2006 at 19:46 - 31

old-school farming was lame anyways. its about time you kids found something better to do anyways.

Dobermann

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

25 Nov 2006 at 19:46 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pointless

Riiiiiiiiiight, so because monsters now have the common sense to get the hell out of an AoE attack (like any sensible human player that pays attention to the rest of their screen and not just their meters), you reckon GW is rubbish.

NEXT!

I dnt, i still enjoy HA when i find a team,... I just want some money, might go try 'n' win a perf Crysta from HoH chest

Pudin Tame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

TX

Elite Crew

25 Nov 2006 at 19:46 - 33

The nerf didn't stop farming. Farming can still be done as easily as ever, it just takes longer and items are now worthless. I think the inscription system is the real problem. It's too easy to get a perfect item now. Greens are pointless unless they have unique skins. There is just nothing to shoot for in this game anymore unless you're into titles which I am not.

Dobermann

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

25 Nov 2006 at 19:47 - 34

Might as well get necro to elona and farm bugs outside Yohlon, mate reckons its da new bezt farm spot

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

25 Nov 2006 at 19:55 - 35

Thought you were so angry you're quitting. Quit or adapt, don't waste time (yours and other people's) by posting random rage on a fansite, where people who enjoy the game go to discuss it.

Not sure why so many of you seem to care if someone like this ragequits GW. Doesn't effect me at all.