What's next, after defeat of Abbadon?
Sophitia Leafblade
I think the real question that needs to be answered is: Who are the Xunlia agents, why do they seem to be everywhere? Is there a headquarters for them if so where is it? and the ultimate question, why wont they gives us extra storage
soullss monk
I always expected the next chapter to bring a new map to tyria, i.e. presearing map to postsearing map. Now that Abbadon's dead, we fastforward a few decades. We start with a campaign to clear out the charr, or maybe that seer idea. Then we move on to help cantha again, etc
soullss monk
I always expected the next chapter to bring a new map to tyria, i.e. presearing map to postsearing map. Now that Abbadon's dead, we fastforward a few decades. We start with a campaign to clear out the charr, or maybe that seer idea. Then we move on to help cantha again, etc
borik oakwood
why do the charr attack south?
there land sucks all burnt and smelly.
mabye bigger nasteir things force them out and titans make it easier for them to accept.
big scary things are slow but v destructive not too organised.
they are getting close to tyria and the charr getting more suicidal / aggresive.
eventually charr dull in attacks and try to negotiate. scouts sent into north only 1 survives!
bada bing story line
there land sucks all burnt and smelly.
mabye bigger nasteir things force them out and titans make it easier for them to accept.
big scary things are slow but v destructive not too organised.
they are getting close to tyria and the charr getting more suicidal / aggresive.
eventually charr dull in attacks and try to negotiate. scouts sent into north only 1 survives!
bada bing story line
Venus was her name
anet have basically said chpt 4 IS the northern lands, which i assume is N of ascalon. something in the nightfall manual hinted at that i think (forgot where i saw that was it in this thread? lol)
(having thought about things since my last post) i dont think anet will deal directly with charr, possibly they will focus on some threat from the north.(giants??) possibly what drove the charr south. i dont think future chapters will have any direct involvement by any gods. and i dont think they'd re-visit charr as a main storyline.
my bet is North of ascalon norse type themed thats what i want! and they can call it icewindale 3! (ok maybe not)
otherwise they could do something atlantis themed with orr sunk at the bottom of the sea. new race mermaid!
edit: each chapter is based upon a geographical area in our real life world. cantha is east asia, elona is africa/middle east/persia. so youd think chpt 4 will have a heavy theme in that sense, aztec, classical greece/rome, native amercan indian, russian/east european, N european. are some possible ideas.
(having thought about things since my last post) i dont think anet will deal directly with charr, possibly they will focus on some threat from the north.(giants??) possibly what drove the charr south. i dont think future chapters will have any direct involvement by any gods. and i dont think they'd re-visit charr as a main storyline.
my bet is North of ascalon norse type themed thats what i want! and they can call it icewindale 3! (ok maybe not)
otherwise they could do something atlantis themed with orr sunk at the bottom of the sea. new race mermaid!
edit: each chapter is based upon a geographical area in our real life world. cantha is east asia, elona is africa/middle east/persia. so youd think chpt 4 will have a heavy theme in that sense, aztec, classical greece/rome, native amercan indian, russian/east european, N european. are some possible ideas.
luinks
travel in time i say!, you must travel back in time to kill the vizier,but you manage to unchain dark magic so powerful that wipes all orrians and kills the vizier, so you end doing everything from the begining, and sudenly pop up in pre-searing...
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spartan421
they have planned out ch1 through ch3 before guild wars was even released, thats why everything is connected so coordinated. so ch4 through ch6 will also be done by the time we get to play it. i really wanted to go to another world like from where to seers come from to explore their lore a bit, but it said northern lands, so it would still all be on the same planet. and then i decided mabey ch5 should be a continent floating in the sky supported by magic and some evil person wants to destroy the human lands in ch4 by destroying the pillars of magic supporting the flying continent and having it crash down on ch4's land.
as for ch4 if there is ice, dwarves will no doubt be there, and the imps, ettins, etc. mabey some tribal indians may emerge as new allies or barbarians.
oh and everything so far seems god related troubles, so mabey we have to battle some lesser god that is also pulling the strings on everything like abbadon was.
as for ch4 if there is ice, dwarves will no doubt be there, and the imps, ettins, etc. mabey some tribal indians may emerge as new allies or barbarians.
oh and everything so far seems god related troubles, so mabey we have to battle some lesser god that is also pulling the strings on everything like abbadon was.
Mesmer in Need
the boss who has peace and harmony is a xunlia agent...
Maria The Princess
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Originally Posted by borik oakwood
why do the charr attack south?
there land sucks all burnt and smelly. mabye bigger nasteir things force them out and titans make it easier for them to accept. big scary things are slow but v destructive not too organised. they are getting close to tyria and the charr getting more suicidal / aggresive. eventually charr dull in attacks and try to negotiate. scouts sent into north only 1 survives! bada bing story line |
Feme Assassin
giants forced the charr to attack tyria
the giants will ally with menzies or dhuum or even both to awake their ancestors(see giganticus lupicus)
end of story
the giants will ally with menzies or dhuum or even both to awake their ancestors(see giganticus lupicus)
end of story
alarico511
OK dude my theroy
1) The shinging blade and the mentle nad the remaining murrsat
The murrsat after they saw the titan open a portal making a new island as a copy of tyria the island is a miror of tyria and is at the bottom of elona
no new prfesstion
2)Elona maybe there is a civil war between the corsir and kpruna tearing elona apart and the battle got out of hand as they fill the ocean making it land and extanding the size of elona making a new place where si similar to jade sea and forest
3)After shiro death how about the luxon and kurzick(need idea fo rthis)
1) The shinging blade and the mentle nad the remaining murrsat
The murrsat after they saw the titan open a portal making a new island as a copy of tyria the island is a miror of tyria and is at the bottom of elona
no new prfesstion
2)Elona maybe there is a civil war between the corsir and kpruna tearing elona apart and the battle got out of hand as they fill the ocean making it land and extanding the size of elona making a new place where si similar to jade sea and forest
3)After shiro death how about the luxon and kurzick(need idea fo rthis)
TechnoSword
or maybe guild wars is like star wars where in reality this is chapter 4,5, and 6 and that the next 3 chapters are like a prequal where these events happen.
After you defeated abbadon the new goddess of truth sent you back to elona, but not knowing her true power accidentlly sent you back in time in a completely different place "the northlands" where as soon as you arrive you have amnesia! (Oh noes!)
You are in an area surronded by the vastly powerful giant dwarves fighting against the weak and frail charr. For some unknown reason to you (you have amnesia) you are compelled to help and protect the charr or the giant dwarves will wipe them off the planet and claim the land for themselves. after several missions of spying and fighting you realise that the charr just stink so now your last mission is to help them find a new land to live in. As you help the charr refugees head south the final mission is to defeat the leader of the giant dwarves who is in actuallity the shortest dwarf making him ruler. as you defeat him the charrs rejoice at your braveness and dedication to the charr cause and happily head south to their new homelands unknown to them.
As you see them slowly march away kormir appears and apologises to you for her accident and attempts to send you back. she manages to successfully take you back to elona, however you are in elona a few years into the past! as you are magically teleported to the mirror of lyss, you gaze up at the beautiful Grand Court of Sebelkha and notice at the bottum of the giant round dome in large letters the words "Abaddon wuz here" shocked and surprised at the disgrace of lyssas temple you go to tell someone of this horrible act. As you go up to the Grand Court yourself you see General Morgahn forcing a young teenager varesh ossa to go worship lyssa. So to keep her entertained in her hour of boredom you tell varesh ossa all about your discovery of vandalism. Interested in this rebellious idea she begins to think about Abaddon and who he is until it begins to consume her.
dun dun dun! theres your prequal lol
After you defeated abbadon the new goddess of truth sent you back to elona, but not knowing her true power accidentlly sent you back in time in a completely different place "the northlands" where as soon as you arrive you have amnesia! (Oh noes!)
You are in an area surronded by the vastly powerful giant dwarves fighting against the weak and frail charr. For some unknown reason to you (you have amnesia) you are compelled to help and protect the charr or the giant dwarves will wipe them off the planet and claim the land for themselves. after several missions of spying and fighting you realise that the charr just stink so now your last mission is to help them find a new land to live in. As you help the charr refugees head south the final mission is to defeat the leader of the giant dwarves who is in actuallity the shortest dwarf making him ruler. as you defeat him the charrs rejoice at your braveness and dedication to the charr cause and happily head south to their new homelands unknown to them.
As you see them slowly march away kormir appears and apologises to you for her accident and attempts to send you back. she manages to successfully take you back to elona, however you are in elona a few years into the past! as you are magically teleported to the mirror of lyss, you gaze up at the beautiful Grand Court of Sebelkha and notice at the bottum of the giant round dome in large letters the words "Abaddon wuz here" shocked and surprised at the disgrace of lyssas temple you go to tell someone of this horrible act. As you go up to the Grand Court yourself you see General Morgahn forcing a young teenager varesh ossa to go worship lyssa. So to keep her entertained in her hour of boredom you tell varesh ossa all about your discovery of vandalism. Interested in this rebellious idea she begins to think about Abaddon and who he is until it begins to consume her.
dun dun dun! theres your prequal lol
Sophitia Leafblade
The problem with making the next campaign is they have to keep the timeline relativly parallel, they cant make a story several more years later it would break the timeline of your chars unless the new campaign chars were unable to join in chapters 1-3 and vica versa. Since campaigns 1-3 actually happen virtually at the same up to the point where LA, Kaineng and Kamadan all join together in the timeline. The parts after that the timelines vary a little so in theory the heros from whichever campaign u were, are able to defeat all 3 chapters (Tryia and Cantha endgame timelines finshing before NF ofc.)
The only way to move a character years into the future would be to either make a new one or import you current characters as older/younger versions of themselves into the new/previous saga but having no direct access to the other maps while in the new/old campaigns, unless there exported back.
In doing this the chars would be unable to access items from the future campaigns, but future campaigns would be able to acess past items (since this is allowable since by the time the new chapter occurs the items were presumably still in storage, the same with armour etc.)
The only way to move a character years into the future would be to either make a new one or import you current characters as older/younger versions of themselves into the new/previous saga but having no direct access to the other maps while in the new/old campaigns, unless there exported back.
In doing this the chars would be unable to access items from the future campaigns, but future campaigns would be able to acess past items (since this is allowable since by the time the new chapter occurs the items were presumably still in storage, the same with armour etc.)
ikillmonkeys
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In Chapter 4 we are going to learn more about what and who are the Seers and how and why there is this feud between them and the Mursaat. The story is going to be about the humans helping the Seer ultimately defeat the Mursaat at their secret location a city deep inside the Maguuma Jungle. As the humans defeat the the Mursaat, the Seers will betray the humans in their attempt to fulfill their own agenda of taking over and ruling all of Tyria. The Seers desire is to transform Tyria into their distant home world since their native home is being depleted of its natural resources so the Seers must find a new place to call home and Tyria is the perfect place.
As you are aware of the strange looking portal in a cave at the very north of Mineral Springs. This is the portal that few of the Seers used to come to Tyria. The Seers is a very powerful race and cannot be defeated solely by a single race. In Chapter 4, we will also learn more about the Charr. As more of the Seers arrive to Tyria. They begin to mobilize their army and first attacking and driving the Krytans out of Maguuma Jungle. Pushing them eastward to the Shiverpeaks and Old Ascalon. The Seers next target is to march forward into the Northern areas. The homeland of the Charr. As the Charr are being slaughtered, their leader urgently pleads to the human race to help them. As the three races understand what's at stake. It's at the best judgement to form an alliance, even if it means that one of the allies is the enemy; the Charr. The humans, Charr, and Dwarves form an alliance. Their goal is to push the Seers back and wipe them out of Tyria. Chapter 4 will contain many alien form creatures that the Seers bring from their home world. Corrupting the land around them. Making the appearance of the physical land with an uncanny resemblance to their home world. New henchmen npcs consisting of Charr and Dwarves to help the heroes of Tyria in the fight against the Seers. Glint makes an appearance in Chapter 4. She plays a big role in Chapter 4. Dragons will also be in Chapter 4. Ally or foe is yet to be seen. Heroes of Tyria will venture into the Northern areas and Lost cities of the Unseen Ones deep within Maguuma Jungle. Will this be the end of the human race on Tyria or will the humans prevail and defeat this alien invader? Will the gods of Tyria aid in the fight against these alien invaders? Everything is at stake. The fight between the Seers and humans will be an epic battle. Who will emerge victorious? |
i dont belivwe they wil change tyria that would mess with ch1 which would make an confusing mess
ikillmonkeys
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Originally Posted by Night Daftshadow
In Chapter 4 we are going to learn more about what and who are the Seers and how and why there is this feud between them and the Mursaat. The story is going to be about the humans helping the Seer ultimately defeat the Mursaat at their secret location a city deep inside the Maguuma Jungle. As the humans defeat the the Mursaat, the Seers will betray the humans in their attempt to fulfill their own agenda of taking over and ruling all of Tyria. The Seers desire is to transform Tyria into their distant home world since their native home is being depleted of its natural resources so the Seers must find a new place to call home and Tyria is the perfect place.
As you are aware of the strange looking portal in a cave at the very north of Mineral Springs. This is the portal that few of the Seers used to come to Tyria. The Seers is a very powerful race and cannot be defeated solely by a single race. In Chapter 4, we will also learn more about the Charr. As more of the Seers arrive to Tyria. They begin to mobilize their army and first attacking and driving the Krytans out of Maguuma Jungle. Pushing them eastward to the Shiverpeaks and Old Ascalon. The Seers next target is to march forward into the Northern areas. The homeland of the Charr. As the Charr are being slaughtered, their leader urgently pleads to the human race to help them. As the three races understand what's at stake. It's at the best judgement to form an alliance, even if it means that one of the allies is the enemy; the Charr. The humans, Charr, and Dwarves form an alliance. Their goal is to push the Seers back and wipe them out of Tyria. Chapter 4 will contain many alien form creatures that the Seers bring from their home world. Corrupting the land around them. Making the appearance of the physical land with an uncanny resemblance to their home world. New henchmen npcs consisting of Charr and Dwarves to help the heroes of Tyria in the fight against the Seers. Glint makes an appearance in Chapter 4. She plays a big role in Chapter 4. Dragons will also be in Chapter 4. Ally or foe is yet to be seen. Heroes of Tyria will venture into the Northern areas and Lost cities of the Unseen Ones deep within Maguuma Jungle. Will this be the end of the human race on Tyria or will the humans prevail and defeat this alien invader? Will the gods of Tyria aid in the fight against these alien invaders? Everything is at stake. The fight between the Seers and humans will be an epic battle. Who will emerge victorious? |
i dont belivwe they wil change tyria that would mess with ch1 which would make an confusing mess or any ohter chapter at that it would most likely be about an new continent becasue the would make it liek time went back or forward and plus seers arent supposedly evil since she or they have helped you and glint has eggs so dragon might be in it
Tide to Go
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anet have basically said chpt 4 IS the northern lands, which i assume is N of ascalon. something in the nightfall manual hinted at that i think (forgot where i saw that was it in this thread? lol)
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Velath
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Originally Posted by Stemnin
Merlin will be in chp4, I just see too many similarities that aren't there.. cast out gods (abbadon and anubis), instance portals look like worm hole event horizons.. etc, so merlin is the key! But my bet is on giant penguins..
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I'm hoping for Northlands and new stuff period. Maybe less saving the world and just more, uhmmm, stuff... Work has killed my imagination.
GourangaPizza
I was hoping there will be a Transition Chapter that act as a prologue to the current chapters. This chapter will recap the loose ends of the current storyline and telling of a side storyline before starting a new story aka. Chapter 4.
This Transition Chapter will be covering the whole of all 3 previous chapters, providing new missions, new unexplored locations at the existing continents, so it comes as a premium to owners of all 3 GW chapters.
In the Tyria, this Transition Chapter's missions will revolve around the pre-Searing Orr, perhaps Kryta and the ongoing Guild Wars between the nations.
In the Cantha, the story will explore the south-western part of Cantha. It will also provide background information on Shiro and his guild, perhaps some diplomatic treaty missions to unite the Luxons and Kurzicks.
As for Elona portion, I am not really sure about it, as I have yet to purchase Nightfall so I do not know what really happen before Varesh's betrayal.
So yeah, that's basically what I wished for. Any thoughts?
This Transition Chapter will be covering the whole of all 3 previous chapters, providing new missions, new unexplored locations at the existing continents, so it comes as a premium to owners of all 3 GW chapters.
In the Tyria, this Transition Chapter's missions will revolve around the pre-Searing Orr, perhaps Kryta and the ongoing Guild Wars between the nations.
In the Cantha, the story will explore the south-western part of Cantha. It will also provide background information on Shiro and his guild, perhaps some diplomatic treaty missions to unite the Luxons and Kurzicks.
As for Elona portion, I am not really sure about it, as I have yet to purchase Nightfall so I do not know what really happen before Varesh's betrayal.
So yeah, that's basically what I wished for. Any thoughts?
Buns United
Well so far, we've had Guild Wars; Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall.. obviously the next part needs to be Guild Wars; Gwen's Cooking Adventure!
Nah but seriously.. maybe a repeat of the years-old Guild Wars. Guilds ravaging against one another, terrorizing anything that comes in between.
Just another thought
Nah but seriously.. maybe a repeat of the years-old Guild Wars. Guilds ravaging against one another, terrorizing anything that comes in between.
Just another thought
Ravi
well, taking into acount the fact that anet has also stated the nightfall is the END of the trilogy, imho ch4 will have absolutely nothing to do with the first three (lore-wise), so personally im expecting anything.
P.S. - mark my words, ch4 will not have any new professions
P.S. - mark my words, ch4 will not have any new professions
Imperium
Personally, I'd like to see something different in Chapter 4 but keeping within the current GW universe, that is to say, not necessarily not releasing a new area, but keeping hold of all of the lore around it.
My own personal hope is that we can get off of the "save the world" path and maybe have a choice of whether you want to save it or kill it. In fact, I'd LOVE if the next game was about helping Abaddon reclaim his throne, but thats probably not "commercial enough" and Arenanet (while being one of the best and brightest companies out there) probably haven't got the ....errr...strength to pull it off. Save the world, with Hallmark moments again then.
If it IS to the North as Anet have suggested/confirmed, what do we already know about that area?
In fact, I'm gonna start a different thread on that.
My own personal hope is that we can get off of the "save the world" path and maybe have a choice of whether you want to save it or kill it. In fact, I'd LOVE if the next game was about helping Abaddon reclaim his throne, but thats probably not "commercial enough" and Arenanet (while being one of the best and brightest companies out there) probably haven't got the ....errr...strength to pull it off. Save the world, with Hallmark moments again then.
If it IS to the North as Anet have suggested/confirmed, what do we already know about that area?
In fact, I'm gonna start a different thread on that.
Lord-UWR
ok the Giant idea seems closest, maybe the gods are really decendents of the giants
similar to greek mythology, the titans(greek) where giants and then Zeus took over. AND FOR GOD'S SAKE, HAVE YOU SEEN THE SIZE OF GW GODS??? THEY ARE FREAKIN' HUGE.
similar to greek mythology, the titans(greek) where giants and then Zeus took over. AND FOR GOD'S SAKE, HAVE YOU SEEN THE SIZE OF GW GODS??? THEY ARE FREAKIN' HUGE.
Jesse
With all these ideas...I dont think that Anet will make a story line that goes back in time and tells of the past. I think they will go more in teh future about mabey what happens to the continents or a new continent after all the termoil of Abbadon was vanquished. Mabey once Abbadon was killed civil war broke out somewere or a new race steped up to power. All in all no one knows for sure what to expect and i look forward to the surprise.
Lord-UWR
You know what, we are putting way more thought and effort than Anet desginers and Devs and Storyboard crew put in their work, lol.
kahn of war
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Komir gets corrupted and becomes the new evil God.
You can't kill a God either so who's to say Abaddon isn't dead yet simply very weakend.
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Komir gets corrupted and becomes the new evil God.
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nah i dont think so you cant corrupt a god
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Sophitia Leafblade
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Feme Assassin
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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade
Actually u can kill a God, Alot of Mythologys allow so, Norse, Egyptian, Greek, they may be immortal (ie doesnt Age and so will live forever) but does not make them invunerable (unable to be harmed)
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abaddon is indead very weak but not dead and of course you can kill a god but only if you have in your pocession a magical item and you are the mighty hero(not the rank)that will save the world
Sophitia Leafblade
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abaddon is indead very weak but not dead and of course you can kill a god but only if you have in your pocession a magical item and you are the mighty hero(not the rank)that will save the world
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Gairoh
There's too many things left unsolved...could be anything.....
Personally,i'd really like to see the rebuilding of ascalon....make it a few years later like what some earlier posts suggested.Otherwise, venturing further into the north or tht unseen land between tyria and cantha seems to be more logical.
Personally,i'd really like to see the rebuilding of ascalon....make it a few years later like what some earlier posts suggested.Otherwise, venturing further into the north or tht unseen land between tyria and cantha seems to be more logical.
Darksun
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abaddon is indead very weak but not dead and of course you can kill a god but only if you have in your pocession a magical item and you are the mighty hero(not the rank)that will save the world
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It seems that GW "theology" has the "essence" of a diety and the being that weilds that power & title. The being (the personality. In Abbadon's case, evil) can be destroyed. The "essence" cannot. ie: there will ALLWAYS be a god/goddess of secrets/truth.
It's true, there is not much more in the way of epic battles. You can't really top fighting a friggen god! Honestly if they tried to make something seem MORE important, taht would just be retarded.
Personally, I'd like to se a SMALLER scale. something more local, more detailed & personal. Not everything has to be the end of the universe. Smaller scope can acctually be better.
Feme Assassin
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I think you are confusing the title of god/goddess in GW and the person who has that title. If you read the plaque of kormir you'll note that the Abbadon was destroyed (the the being who held the title of god of secrets) But it says the power of a god cannot be destroyed and Kormir became the new god of secrets: the goddess of truth.
It seems that GW "theology" has the "essence" of a diety and the being that weilds that power & title. The being (the personality. In Abbadon's case, evil) can be destroyed. The "essence" cannot. ie: there will ALLWAYS be a god/goddess of secrets/truth. It's true, there is not much more in the way of epic battles. You can't really top fighting a friggen god! Honestly if they tried to make something seem MORE important, taht would just be retarded. Personally, I'd like to se a SMALLER scale. something more local, more detailed & personal. Not everything has to be the end of the universe. Smaller scope can acctually be better. |
yup i agree with you they should make something in a smaller scale and not to save the world again its getting boring
Comrade87
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now my theory is that menzies and dhuum will try to awake the titans or their distant relatives(they will be huge too)and they will try to take over the world,or grenth or another god will ally with menzies to release the titans as well.Thats my opinion
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Just because your domain is death and ice doesnt mean your evil, Death is, afterall a natural part of life.
It doesnt seem at all to me like Grenth is the GW version of Satan, which might be what your relating him too.
Sophitia Leafblade
lol why are people so obessed with wanted Dhuum and Menzies in the next chapter. With already done the whole Defeat a God thing, time for something new i think.
Besides Menzies is a weak version of Balthazar, after all Balthazar has to has someone to fight for eternity since he is the god of War it might as well be a family member (who better to fight). Dhuum got taken down just by Grenth he could never be a treat since the combined powers of the gods would easily out do him.
Besides Menzies is a weak version of Balthazar, after all Balthazar has to has someone to fight for eternity since he is the god of War it might as well be a family member (who better to fight). Dhuum got taken down just by Grenth he could never be a treat since the combined powers of the gods would easily out do him.
draxynnic
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yup i agree with you they should make something in a smaller scale and not to save the world again its getting boring
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The word is we've finished the Abaddon story arc and starting up a new one. So chances are we will be starting with something fairly small scale (albeit still dangerous if left unopposed) that will build up to something bigger in a later chapter.