solo ids farm

YoNkErS 2k5

YoNkErS 2k5

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

New York, USA

Ominous Empire (Oe)

well folks thats it, its impossible to solo ids any longer, seriously. the aggro with the boss in mineral springs right before caves, 2 strays will follow u, alternating, typically a guile [necromancer who strips enchants] and a wise [mesmer who uses ineptidue, warrior killer], and there is no way to lose them, they follow u up to the imps, ineptitude owning the wars, strip enchants owning the 55hps. so lets see u guys come up with a build now?

Elite Yakuza Yuki

Elite Yakuza Yuki

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2006

Elite Yakuza and Gaijin

W/

Hmmm, I'll have to run up there and try myself

Dutch Masterr

Dutch Masterr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Long Island, NY

Elite Knights [SWAT]

W/

i never ever liked the w/mo solo farm build, i always used the w/me build. since the nightfall update i actually managed to solo it once, but it is near impossible. and i would like to know why it seems to be the guiles that follow you for so long...

mathijn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

holland

[PIKY]

R/

uhm, maybe a R build with pin down? a slowed down foe will lose ya

X of Thulcandra

X of Thulcandra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Sector 001

N/A

W/

Yep, just got done smashing my keyboard. I haven't tried going the other route, though. It will probably end up being the same way with the boss right after the bridge. Endless aggro FTL. It happens in runs to Droks, too. One Ice Golem will end up following you the entire way through Lornar's, but it is still possible to complete the run. Yeah ANet, we see your silly little tricks.

jesh

jesh

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA

Penguin Village

Mo/

Anet thinks that if they make all the PvEers leave then they can just forget about balancing that side of the game. That's the only motive I can match to their crazy behavior lately.

AuraofMana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Georgia, US

They want the game to be more team-oriented, but then they went and threw in heroes.
But then again, hench flag is win.

Emf Spartan

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Fatal Aliance

Mo/W

Hahaha dont give up so easily, the R/Me build works perfect and if the pesky avicara are there just kill them

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

CA

Scythes of Chaos [SoC], [PNOY] alliance guild forums: http://socguild.cjb.net

E/

Can you post the att and skill template for the R/Mes solo? I haven't been able to find it and my ranger does need a few skill points......

Decron

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

[FoF]

W/

I just take hench with me and kill the boss and avicara for the cave then flag then away so i can farm in peace.
My last run got me 2 IDS

The Last Cruzader

The Last Cruzader

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Who Kicked Down Our [Door]

W/A

Eh I dualed run with a friend and 2 out of 10 times we got good spawns, but when I was soloing there would usually always be a seige golem in the cave...

Anger Problems

Anger Problems

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/

Erm...Don't hold me on this, but I think Gaile said that they are fixing this infinite aggro.

KebabVan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

E/Me

lol I can't believe people still haven't realised that there are hench/hero controls. Do the run with a train of heros and hench, give ur heros running builds and do their skills for them whilst running. All you need is one left alive when you run past the last mob of avicara and flag him to stop so that you break aggro whilst they attack him. He dies, you're free from aggro. Simple. There's plenty of space inbetween the mob and the cave entrance to stop and recover before going in.

The Arching Healer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Super Kaon Action Team [SuKa]

which skills do you use for warrior? i'm using sever artery, galrath slash, mending, mark of protection/healing hands, sprint, watch yourself, healing signet and another skill, that doesn't work good for me. Can somebody post here his working warrior build? that helps me a lot , thnx

the arching healer/the dutch power

Amiable

Amiable

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Sweden

Sometimes all the mobs at the cave bunch up infront or just inside and you can't do shit. What the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO is wrong with Anet is this area meant to be impossible or do you need a dedicated full team to just get past some of these idiotic spawns?

I can easily run to the cave solo without dying. With bad spawns like avicare that won't stop following you into giants I just work it off as DP and proceed. Now the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing tricky part is the bloody avicare standing so close to imps so if u run past them to the imps they just follow you up. What does Anet have against me getting my IDS? Tell me cause I'm RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing pissed here about this random bullshit.

KazeMitsui

KazeMitsui

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

pretty sure its all up in yo face

[WHAT]

R/

well one thing i believe is that:
1 you guys arent very good runners/mob avoiders
2 you guys suck at pulling

3 i did this run last nite with my ranger (once), warr(once), monk(once).
and didnt get an ids so i gave up and it takes way too long got boring made some other money bought it later on... its still possible just learn to run well and uh pull correctly! also i did this without heros/hench (they just get in the way) but yea ids solo run is still possible just do it patiently and be smart about it... i went both ways once i got to mineral springs bottom or top way no problems just run intelligently

Pwnd by a guineapig

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

In your imagination.

knights who say Ni Ni [KWSN]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by jesh
Anet thinks that if they make all the PvEers leave then they can just forget about balancing that side of the game. That's the only motive I can match to their crazy behavior lately. ANet hates PvE players thats why they've been so crazy with changing skills and litterally almost plunged us into a depression.

B E A S T

B E A S T

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2007

Anywhere but Guild Wars now, sadly.

It's a shame, this game had so much potential, but is ruined due to stale gameplay and lame updates

The IDS farming run has been rigged for a while.
Earlier today, I wanted to finally see if I could get one.
Here is a brief summary of what happened, in a total of 8 runs.

1. Unrunnable spawn at end of Tasca's Demise. Died. Rubberband death by Avicara at the beggining of Mineral Springs. 30% DP. Resigned.

2. Unrunnable spawn at end of Tasca's Demise. Died. Killed Giants in Mineral Springs to remove DP. Avicara spawned in Imps. Resigned.

3. Made it through Tasca's Demise without incident. Unnavoidable Avicara-Giant aggro. Died. Killed Giants to remove DP. Encountered Elementalist Boss with Iron Mist. Failed to get Defy Pain up fast enough. Died. Made it passed Elementalist boss. Avicara spawned in Imps. Resigned.

4. Unrunnable spawn at end of Tasca's Demise. Died. Killed Giants in Mineral Springs to remove DP. Cleared Ice Imp Cave. No IDS drops. Resigned.

5. Managed to make it out of Tasca's Demise without incident. See end of 2,3. Resigned.

(At this point getting more then a little mad)

6. Unrunnable spawn at end of Tasca's Demise. Another Avicara rubberband death. Resigned.

7. PERFECT RUN. Great Ice Imp spawn, no Trolls or Golems. Yet... NO IDS!!

8. Made it through Tasca's Demise without incident. Made it to Ice Imp cave...only to encounter a spawn of no less then 20 Imps and 3 Golems. Couldn't get adrenaline fast enough, died. Resigned for the last time. Bought my IDS from some Joe in Granite.

LESSON: IDS RUNNING IS ****ed UP! I was constantly frusterated by those Avicara that would never lose aggro! My build was decent, Mending, Live Vicariouly, Defy Pain (the guy I bought it from said he used the same one) and in the good spawns I had no problem clearing the cave.

Dont do this Solo!!! It just wont work!!!

And I dont see how monks solo it either. How can they even get to the cave?

ANet needs to fix this problem. IDS should be worth 100k for all the hell you must go through to get one.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

my dervish does fine

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by jesh
Anet thinks that if they make all the PvEers leave then they can just forget about balancing that side of the game. That's the only motive I can match to their crazy behavior lately. If making the game a little bit harder is making PvEers leave then I'd say it's for the best. You can still, very easily, farm the ids with flagged heroes. But even if you couldn't, what's so "crazy" about making a team to farm the sword in a multi-player game? Nuff' said.

darknight2169

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

United Aussie Warriors [AUS]

W/Mo

I managed to get there fine with the w/mo build not long ago, and a few in my guild are complaining about the terrible drop rates of the imps (meaning they got there), theres always the solution of killing everything that gets in your way

Craero

Craero

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

N/

Or there is always the option of looking at this thread's post date before you say that the guy who started it can't outrun a few avarcia. This was FIVE months ago, The Guiles would follow you forever then. (Would have followed you to camp rankor from beacons perch if they could have gone through portals). Latest posts are useless...

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

The solo ids run is hard. Ive gotten to the imp cave several times without hitch. Ive killed some imps without a hitch. I got one ids. Then i gave up. It got too hard, and you had to try MANY times to get a good or even doable spawn.

name of me

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

GOTR

A/E

craaaaaaaap.. iam not the richest person, so i though ud make a farming build to get some money, i made the warrior ids solo build, wasted all my money, on new armor, new axe, and shield, and now it dosent work any more........................... i want my money back

dies like fish

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Winter Wonderland [brrr]

W/E

It Still Works. Don't Worry About Old Threads.

MoRg_Rock

MoRg_Rock

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

The [MoRg]

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need
The solo ids run is hard. Ive gotten to the imp cave several times without hitch. Ive killed some imps without a hitch. I got one ids. Then i gave up. It got too hard, and you had to try MANY times to get a good or even doable spawn.

What build are you using? The Build I use works awesome and allows me to kill Arcavia Brave & Fierce, Giants, Trolls, Ice Golems and of course the Ice Imps.




Quote:
Originally Posted by name of me
craaaaaaaap.. iam not the richest person, so i though ud make a farming build to get some money, i made the warrior ids solo build, wasted all my money, on new armor, new axe, and shield, and now it dosent work any more........................... i want my money back Still works!!! What warrior build? If you have questions PM me.

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

I use the sor build on wiki. even though it has a 1/4 second cast, it can still get interrupted. Plus, if you get a spawn where the avica are in front of the imps, you better just /resign, because the stupid birds will rape you with enchant removal, while the imps freeze you in place. I also tried it with the r/me build, but if any ice golems or trolls show up, you're dead meat.

dunky_g

dunky_g

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

[SNOW]

i have done about 10-20 runs in the last 2 weeks to the ids cave and not had one drop, i have also been doing missions and other areas of the game during this time, i solothem using the A/E Sliver armour and shadow form, i can get there easy and that, they just dont seem to drop, this has also been a problem for someone else in my guild

Mr Bartel

Mr Bartel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Villefeuj

Non SIamo Angeli [NSA]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dunky_g
i have done about 10-20 runs in the last 2 weeks to the ids cave and not had one drop, i have also been doing missions and other areas of the game during this time, i solothem using the A/E Sliver armour and shadow form, i can get there easy and that, they just dont seem to drop, this has also been a problem for someone else in my guild I have dropped one last week with W/Mo SoR build, at the second run I did. You are just unlucjy

Stren

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by KazeMitsui
well one thing i believe is that:
1 you guys arent very good runners/mob avoiders
2 you guys suck at pulling

3 i did this run last nite with my ranger (once), warr(once), monk(once).
and didnt get an ids so i gave up and it takes way too long got boring made some other money bought it later on... its still possible just learn to run well and uh pull correctly! also i did this without heros/hench (they just get in the way) but yea ids solo run is still possible just do it patiently and be smart about it... i went both ways once i got to mineral springs bottom or top way no problems just run intelligently Im gonna side with you on this one, ive done... around 50 runs and gotten around 20 IDS, all since this "nerf", all it takes is patience.

And as for you B E A S T, I only count runs where you actually make it to the cave, you expect to get an IDS in ONE RUN!? and if the avicari are too close.. well.. atleast you've only wasted 15 minutes in the run right?
but also that build you were using is pretty useless, should try and find a new one for suvivability.

and if only IDS were worth 100k... I'd have my FoW armor by now

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

This farm is questionable now. With the loot scaling changes, loot scaling doesnt affect ids's because they're blue. But also because of bad spawns and such, you probably need henchies to clear out the avica. So with hench flagged away, you could technically get the ids's. Ill test it out today.

Elkodust

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Haters Gonna Hate

Mo/Me

I can get there and clear the cave just fine with any spawn with my derv, but is it still worthwhile?

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

W/

Why you guys solo
Take a full group of heroes-hench, clear the path towards the ice cave and flagg your heroes-hench away (till grey -doh)
No you can solo the cave... no problem only the drop rate is bad because of all those bots

nasikatok

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2007

I think chances of getting it with heroes/hench are very low now. i tried lot of times using heroes/hench for the past 2 days in normal mode. Once i reach outside of the ice cave, i flag my heroes/henchies outside once they are not highlighted, i went in to solo the ice imps unfortunately still no IDS drop or maybe i am unlucky but on the way there i was able to get one gold/purple item per run.

Question, since IDS is a blue item, it does affect in the loot scaling when you have a full team of heroes /henchies as they do collect your drops.
As mentioned on the recent updates, items exempted from loot scaling are;
Skill Tomes
Scrolls
Dye
Rare materials
All rare (gold colored) items
All unique (green) items
Special event items

Looking at this, IDS's price might go up as it is so hard to get it to drop now unless you solo it w/o heroes/henchies. BTW anyone got any luck on IDS drops with heroes/hench in their group after updates?