I feel like I got screwed over

|pyro|

|pyro|

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

After 2 and a half months of extreme farming and trading I was all to happy to see I got enough materials/item to buy fow armor, after I bought it for my favorite class - Ranger, I realized tat the Vest is clipping.

500 k vasted for an armor part that is clipping.

Isnt Fow armor suppose to be elite armor who is perfect in every way. Geez.

I hopw they fix this error, if you make elite armor make it look like its elite.

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

This is a problem with everything, not just FoW,if they manage to fix it for FoW armor theyll fix it for the rest.
FoW armor isnt suppose to be perfect its suppose to be cooler looking then the max armor thats it, nothing else.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

FoW: "Look at me, I'm rich, and I'm showing it"

How it looks is completely irrelevant. FoW armor did look good in the original release, but has by now been mostly exceeded by new designs. At least in terms of aestetics. But looks were never the motivator behind FoW.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by |pyro|
After 2 and a half months of extreme farming and trading I was all to happy to see I got enough materials/item to buy fow armor, after I bought it for my favorite class - Ranger, I realized tat the Vesi is clipping.

500 k vaster for an armor fart that is clipping.

Isnt Fow armor suppose to be elite armor who is perfect in every way. Geez.

I hopw they fix this error, if you make elite armor make it look like its elite.
Be happy you had 500k for obsidoen armor.

I wish I could farm that in 6 months. Im sure you wont have issues making gold.

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Make a male Nightfall PvP ranger and play with a few of the faces to see what they look like with a standard mask on and you'll see that there are still some very blatant cases of HORRIBLE clipping going on. I saw a post by someone who got Primeval armor for their female warrior only to find that the character's face clipped outside the helm. I still have a clipping problem with one of my rangers that makes the sides of his mask dissapear when viewed from a the front. He's my first character in GW (the one in my avatar), so I'm not going to delete him, but I would REALLY like to see A-net address these issues.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Sorry I'm a bit confused? I have Female Ranger FoW and I don't see any clipping, can you explain where the clipping is or post a screenshot?

What do you mean by the "Vesi" clipping?

anna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by |pyro|
I realized tat the Vesi is clipping.

500 k vaster for an armor fart that is clipping.
Um.... what is "Vesi" and "clipping" and "an armor fart"? Serious question, because I don't understand what you are talking about... and I want to.

Anna

Lavindathar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Manchester, England

The Monstrous Fangs (fang)

N/Mo

Clipping is a graphical glitch...

My 15k Necrotic does it too, on the neck at the back.

Clawdius_Talonious

Clawdius_Talonious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

Do you mean it clips with your guild cape? Many armor arts do that, and there's a very simple solution, disable the cape in all but PVP. As far as feeling screwed over, you spent approx. 1 million gold on one suit of armor, if I piled all seven of my suits of 15k together mats and all they wouldn't touch that price - so it's really a matter of personal perspective. I myself like the look of my Primeval Ranger armor much more than FoW armor, not to mention the fact that bone and fur are a lot cheaper than ecto and shards

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

OK here is what op was trying to say with typos fixed, yes i had a hard time to understand till i reread 3 times.

Quote:
Originally Posted by |pyro|
I realized tat the Vest is clipping.
Quote:
Originally Posted by |pyro|
an armor part that is clipping.
Quote:
Originally Posted by |PYRO|
I hope they fix this error, i
About the FoW looks,i said its suppose to, not what it really is used for.

Vandal2k6

Vandal2k6

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Manchester, UK

The Manchester Marauders

W/Rt

LMAO "Armour fart" ... class.

Superdarth

Superdarth

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Now you know why i stick to 1.5k armor.

FOW is not perfect in every way!Its just another set of armor, with a EXTREMELY insane price.

Just because sompthing is expensive dousnt make it good.

scyfer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Haha ^^ Oh god, I needed Xenex's translation to get it.

I'm sure they'll fix it in the future - there are graphical glitches with all sorts of things. Such as: try some paragon shields on - the ones that I've checked/worn (Wandalz is a good one to try) have the shield clipping through character's bodies (if it's a non paragon) or floating quite a bit away from the arm that it's on/not connected to (if it's a paragon).

Superdarth

Superdarth

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

To be honest you got screwed over bigtime even if it dous look perfect.

2 and a half months?Nothing is worth that!

My Sweet Revenga

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

M.A.D.T........Mothers Against Drunk Typing.... has put you on notice......dotdotdot

Pale Valsharess

Pale Valsharess

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

[GoG]

N/Me

And what's up with this glitch? (not mine though...it's a random screenshot in elona reach)



I saw those graphic gliches on many armors. Strangely enough, not on mine (maybe other players can see it). I use radeon x1600 pro 512 mb graphic card, so it's not a problem with low quality or something.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pale Valsharess
And what's up with this glitch? (not mine though...it's a random screenshot in elona reach)



I saw those graphic gliches on many armors. Strangely enough, not on mine (maybe other players can see it). I use radeon x1600 pro 512 mb graphic card, so it's not a problem with low quality or something.
Armors with a lot of pointy things do that. My Ranger's 15k Kurzick does it as well.

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

shouldn't this be in the Screen Shot exposition, under the Armor mulfunction thread?

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by XvArchonvX
Make a male Nightfall PvP ranger and play with a few of the faces to see what they look like with a standard mask on and you'll see that there are still some very blatant cases of HORRIBLE clipping going on. I saw a post by someone who got Primeval armor for their female warrior only to find that the character's face clipped outside the helm. I still have a clipping problem with one of my rangers that makes the sides of his mask dissapear when viewed from a the front. He's my first character in GW (the one in my avatar), so I'm not going to delete him, but I would REALLY like to see A-net address these issues.
Don't worry. I can't even remember the last time I stopped to look at another party member's toon's face in game.

Megapixels don't interest me at all, can't speak for you though.

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pale Valsharess
And what's up with this glitch? (not mine though...it's a random screenshot in elona reach)



I saw those graphic gliches on many armors. Strangely enough, not on mine (maybe other players can see it). I use radeon x1600 pro 512 mb graphic card, so it's not a problem with low quality or something.

Chaos axe too i hate it i got one for first time then i cryed to see it was like that

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

All armors clip one way or another, its not just fow.
Its a problem with how the engine render the armor ontop of the skin.

This is why using any other pants other than the Ancient with the female Ancient trench coat clips.

So FoW or no FoW, Anet should fix armors in general but I do not think that this is a priority to them right now.

allience

allience

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

what does clipping mean? can somebody post a screenshot showing?

Clawdius_Talonious

Clawdius_Talonious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by boxterduke
So FoW or no FoW, Anet should fix armors in general but I do not think that this is a priority to them right now.
Should it be their priority? Should they be attending these armor fixes instead of say, adding our elite mission and working on the "huge" update we're going to be getting? Ohhh N03S! My Ancient Assassin armor has a blade that clips my right leg when I /sit, now my character is crippled!?!

I think that these problems are minimal at best, Anet should (and does, apparently) focus on things that actually affect gameplay.

Woop Shotty

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

The necro in that image is showing what alpha-transparent images in GW look like when they're highlighted.

|pyro|

|pyro|

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by boxterduke
All armors clip one way or another, its not just fow.
Its a problem with how the engine render the armor ontop of the skin.

This is why using any other pants other than the Ancient with the female Ancient trench coat clips.

So FoW or no FoW, Anet should fix armors in general but I do not think that this is a priority to them right now.
But were you generaly happy when you could saw trough your ass on mesmer FoW armor?

It makes me kinnda ask myself if they make an item you have to do a bit of grind for it, why do we have to be dissapointed after we get it?

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by allience
what does clipping mean? can somebody post a screenshot showing?


See how the hair of the Elementalist is passing threw the collar the way it should look is either going over, or not show the hair past the top of the collar which I wish that’s the way it would look.

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

I was not happy when I saw that but what I'm saying that its part of the engine, its not that Anet says "ok these guys spent lots of time farming we need to make the engine render fow armors 100% correctly"
Also I'm not against you saying that its ok that armors clip, I hope they fix that but I'm sure they have lots of other things more important than armor clipping.

arcady

arcady

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

San Francisco native

Mo/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pale Valsharess
And what's up with this glitch? (not mine though...it's a random screenshot in elona reach)



I saw those graphic gliches on many armors. Strangely enough, not on mine (maybe other players can see it). I use radeon x1600 pro 512 mb graphic card, so it's not a problem with low quality or something.
Your computer is failing to download the transmap properly, or failing to render the transparency settings properly.

My brother claimed to get something like this after installing the GW client on a new system. After closing the game and relaunching, it fixed itself.

I used to see this error all the time in doing 3D art with multilayered transmaps exported from one 3D app and into another - specifically version 4 of Vue and on down before the 4.1 patch fixed it.

As for poke-through - that's a fact of life in 3D work / animation. Something to fix on a case by case basis in each animation and model. It can be fixed, and it is often not hard to do if you don't care about shape-distortions in the details... but they would have to refix it for every combination of props, animation, figures, and so on...

Which is perfectly justifiable in animation and still image art, and in fact a must do...

But in a game engine, you need speed over detail. At some point, it simply becomes more effective on the game to let the smaller errors go through. Higher priority needs to go to the more common combinations and the more glaring errors.

Cataclysm

Cataclysm

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Lost Dynasty [SEEK]

W/Mo

FoW is a waste, it doesnt hold a candle to 15K Kurz warrior armor or Primevial Armor for NF.
As for graphical glitches, I noticed that occasionaly with ym necros hair and on the hair of other chars. It seems to have fixed itself. I have a 128MB ATi Radeon 9800Pro AGP so its not my l33t card either

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

How exactly is the Ranger Obsidian Armor clipping? I don't see how it could be, unless you're trying to wear a different set with it.

Thorondor Port

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

British Columbia

W/

Pvp armor > pve armors
its free =]

pve ftl

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Superdarth
To be honest you got screwed over bigtime even if it dous look perfect.
2 and a half months?Nothing is worth that!
Ofcourse it's worth that if you wanne have something different from the average 1.5k armor like yours. It won't make you a better player, but it's cool and gives some peeps satisfaction.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataclysm
FoW is a waste, it doesnt hold a candle to 15K Kurz warrior armor or Primevial Armor for NF.
Sure, if you prefer batman over a black knight look. Not even gonna comment on primeval. Some fow designs are indeed disapointing but some are not. It's a matter of opinion ofcourse.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thorondor Port
Pvp armor > pve armors
its free =]
pve ftl
Indeed, only prob is you can't play over 80% of the game content with it. You can keep your free armor. One can however play pvp with pve armor. Hence pve armor > pvp armor.


@OP: Can you post a screenshot? A friend of mine has ranger fow and he never complained about it.

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious
Should it be their priority? Should they be attending these armor fixes instead of say, adding our elite mission and working on the "huge" update we're going to be getting? Ohhh N03S! My Ancient Assassin armor has a blade that clips my right leg when I /sit, now my character is crippled!?!

I think that these problems are minimal at best, Anet should (and does, apparently) focus on things that actually affect gameplay.
heh, if they don't fix stuff like that what makes you think they're going to fix stuff in the Elite mission when it's released. someone who goes through life half-assed ends up living a half-assed life.

Priest Of Sin

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

There are tons of clipping issues with FoW armor, with all armors really.

Necromancer FoW (male): Clipping at the crotch, piece of armor goes INTO the leg.

Ranger FoW (male, possible female): When doing the /flute command, boot bends in an awful way.

Warrior FoW (male): Chest piece+Arm pieces make NO SENSE when compared to the actual size of the warrior's chest or arms. The hands go from tiny to regular.

Mesmer FoW (male): Guild Capes go into the back of the armor.

And there are tons more...

Raziel665

Raziel665

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

N/Mo

Hate that too, the back of my Paragons head clips trough the back of his Elonian neck collar when I move.

Effendi Westland

Effendi Westland

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Isle of the dead

[DVDF][LDS]

P/W

female Mesmer FoW also has a graphical bug, been that way for 8 months or so.

The Silver Star

The Silver Star

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK, Scotland

Il Guild Name Il

W/

FoW is all nice in my opinion (except male mesmer :P) and even with the "clipping".. that comes with all armors not just FoW. As for farming that long to get it, it may be an achievment to you but most people found there FoW on e-bay so not many people really go "oh look he has FoW armor wow" like they used to +_+

As for the select them and egt the boxes around the "point-out" parts on some armors that is your computer because one of mine does that and the other doesnt therefor it must be your computer

But as for clipping problems they should all be fixed and tested before release for each COMPLETE armor set, as for people who mix and match there armor i mean they dont really need to sort clipping for that i mean imagine wearing a Teletubbie hat and a superman costume they werent designed to go perfectly into each other

|pyro|

|pyro|

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

Ah, I was a bit angry after I realized my armor has a clippping problem but in the end when i play with my Ranger i usaly look from his back there the clipping can not be seen.
Now I'm chilled and will just hav to live with that, I'm more of a perfectionist and it made me a bit frustraded. But It's only a game, servers will die sooner or later.

Priest Of Sin, you have crashed my hopes about Necro FoW.