I'm Crying About This Update....

For good reason.

Get involved in any Chinese American community and you will quickly realize pressure is being put on them by China to conform to certain political stances. In San Francisco, which is majority Asian and heavily Chinese - we've had a couple of local fights and semi-scandals over attempts by China to get us to go after our own American Falun Gong members. They have managed to get them banned from the Chinese New Years parade, and just this last election a lot of money went into trying to remove one city council supervisor who was anti-China and who had said such objectionable things as 'America is a democracy and we make our own decisions.' They've managed to intimidate the 'Chinese Chamber of Commerce' and a few local Chinese-language newspapers into conforming to 'party demands'.


Their Consulate here keeps tracks on the local Chinese-ethnic American citizens to see if they are loyal or not, or pro-Taiwan instead...

China is a communist country, or at least a single-party totaltarian capitalist state. and a lot of people who care only about $ and nothing about rights have a lot of interest in getting us all to forget that, but we just spent the last century opposing communism, and we did it for a darn good reason.

so you can selection different district but can't actually switch yourself to say European side or Asian servers?

This Subject really gets my blood boiling! The Chinese Goverment=Corrupt, D*ckless, Small Minded, Self Serving & Insecure Bastards...If my Great Grandfather said this before he fled the communist regime, he would have definately vanish into thin air. Its more then just giving gamers rights (thats just a minor issue) its about the rights of us as individuals, which the paranoid f&$k wads oppress to keep power. The worst part is how the West Kaw Tow to their demands knowing full well it violates their beliefs, just to make money.

Satirical Dialog Based on My Views of The Current Topic:

Anet: "Wow, big potential market eh? We'll do ANYTHING to have stakes in that market...ANYTHING!"

Chinese Goverment: "You can come in just as long as you follow our policies of oppressing our people. BTW our policies have nothing to do with our tradition, its because we want to be powerful, hence keep the people ignorant and scared."

Anet: "Sure we will comply to help you keep human beings oppressed, so that we can have a stake in your vast market!...with pleasure! Lets the Bucks roll in!"

Me: "Hey Anet, you have some brown stuff on your nose..."

Anet: Oh yeah I know, I had it between the cracks of the Chinese Goverments @rse$...why? is their something wrong??"

Chinese Goverment: "Hahaha they have to do what we tell them to do! My @rse feels clean now."

The district changes at the log in screen are annoying.. I'm on the American server playing a European account (australia) and.. I get a choice of all Asian servers, but can't switch to them. Then again, that feature is easily ignored.

I'm curious though.. isn't every government corrupt? And what is wrong with Anet conforming to China's wishes in order to increase their business?

Alcohol and cigarette companies have conformed to the laws of the western society, some places you can smoke with 16 and drink with 15 or 16? (anyone in Europe want to confirm that?) yet, in other places.. oh, the evil! You can't drink liquor until you're 21! Does that mean that the people producing the alcohol are conforming to that country's laws and that maybe they should just not deal with that country? No.. there's a potential market, it means restricting access to their product.

In a similar vein, China has obviously put up some guidelines Anet needs to follow, and they're doing the best they can to do so without taking away the western country's 'freedom' of speech... which isn't all that free in the first place.

This Topic really gets my blood boiling, basically the chinese goverment are: Corrupt, Selfish, D£$kless, Insecure Tyrants. If my Grandfather were to say this before his exodus from the communist regime, he would have definately dissapeared into thin air. They keep the people ignorant and scared to hold power and definately do not want individuals to have freedom.
Whats worse is western civilisation Kaw Tow'ing to them, going against human rights to pad their pockets.

This is the conversation between Anet, The Chinese Goverment & Me:

Anet: "Whoaa, big potential to make money in the chinese market!, we'll do ANYTHING...I mean ANYTHING! to get my hands into that market."

Chinese Goverment: "You can come in as long as you obey our policies which has nothing to do with tradition but very much to do with us opressors keeping power to ourselves. OK?"

Anet: "Sure! No Probs! I'll just ignore the small detail about human rights, the chinese public don't know any better anyways...besides, ALL THAT MONEY!"

Me: "Hey Anet, you have some brown crud on your nose"

Anet: "Oh yeah I know, it came from the Chinese Gov. when we stuck it up their Shyte Slits...why is something wrong?"

Chinese Goverment: "Hahaha...look at them compromising their beliefs to make money, hahaha! Hmm, my @rse Hole feels clean."

you can do that in game.

There is no single political system that's perfect. While all you people here praising democracy, I'll tell you few bad things about democracy.

1. Slow decision making. Everything need to be voted first. Just think how much money are spent each year on election? This is one of the many reasons why China's economy is growing faster than US. (China's economy is projected to be #1 by 2020, source: wikipedia).
2. Majority rule. As in majority isn't very smart. This is why we have Bush as president instead of Gore. (This can also be found in GW world.)

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And about human right. USA put human right so high up, and that led to 9/11. Now, we have our patriot act, which...to my understanding, restricts human right.

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Falun Gong:
1. It against homosexuality. They believe homosexual = demonification. That's not freedom.
2. It act up against government right in their face. They meditate right in front government building, blocking out traffic and attact media attention. That isn't very good looking to the world. They don't only do this in China, but also in USA. When Hu Jintao visited USA, a Falun Gong practicianer shouted right in front of Bush and Hu Jintao. This not only make China look bad, but also USA.

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ok...I sense a thread close coming soon...

Westerners have beliefes? BULLS**T!

Ok please get back on track, to squash anymore stupid oppions, both systems, chinese and american are flawed and utterly corrupted and in 20-30 years will come screaming down in flaming idiots.

but anyway this could be interesting if we can just start flipping through disricts.

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This post is win.

About the whole selection thing, from what I've read in this thread, I'm not even going to bother with it. -password switch ftw.

THe district selection i think is for beta, and plus how will china ever win favor at their beginning of playing guildwars?

^How does Japan; I don't think I've seen them with favor once...

Japanese servers don't get above district 2 or 3 in prime time in capital port towns. That's how low a user count they have. I imagine Chinese servers won't be too flooded either.

Europe, on the other hand, has multiple country each with more users than Japan or Taiwan.
Unless they unite Asian servers to share favor, EU will continue to hold favor by sheer brute force of massess of users.
American servers also holds many diffrent nations in American continent, and its numbers of users rivals EU.

I think it's about time A.net adress this extremely unfair situation, and group up the favor for smaller servers.

uh...no...







Not sure if I can link image directly from another forum

But here's the screenshots taken during the Chinese closed beta test. As you can see, there's plenty of people there.

I have, a few times at least. Tends to happen when one good Japanese team goes and wins the favour all by themselves.

I wonder what kind of rush to ToA happens there during the rare times they can actually use the statues.

Well my friend just made a Japanese guild called "Bring Back Eight V Eight [8 v 8] the tag pritty much looks like [8 v 8] but in Japanese so if we play HA again they might get favor :P

1. As of today, there is no restriction on the amount of time you can play WoW in China. Before anyone says any BS about this, let me explain something to you. I live in China. I played Wow until level 60 .(when, as everyone knows, the game starts to suck big-time).. until about 2 months ago . And there are no time restrictions. Now, I play GW in the American district. This internet game restriction is sort of a scare thing...its like when the Man cracks down on pirate DVDs here... for about 3 days...and then everything goes back to normal.

2. GW may unfortunatly fail here. That can be because of a lot of factors including lack of marketing, or that the game just is not what Chinese gamers want. I don't know.

3. 9City sucks balls. They suck. They suck. They suck. Ask any Chiense WoW player. But ANet probably had to have a local partner in China, so no way around it.

4. As all internet traffic goes through The Great Firewall of China, the game may have problems connecting up with other countries. It may be that China gets an isolated version of the game. But this probably has very little to do with the government (other than the requiremnet for ANET to have a local partner) and a lot to do with the business model.

5. I should probably switch to the European district, as they seem to alway have favor at my playing times, which is after 9PM, BEIJING TIME. So if anyone loses out in their Favor IF GW becomes popular here, its Europe, not US. (accept maybe on the weekends).

6. Just to clarify for some of you people... I doubt many people can tell the difference between Korean, Japanese, and Chinese writing. I don't even know if your computers would display 2-bit characters, and so all you probably see are random meaningless character names. As my computer OS is Simplified (PRC) Chinese, and I have Japanese and Traditional Chinese (used in Taiwan and Hong Kong) installed (because I can read a little of both languages), I can tell the difference. And to date, I have never seen another Chinese (meaning mainland) player. I sometimes see Taiwanese, and sometimes Japanese.

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I don't believe this for one second. I have lived in SF for a long time. Its 20% ethnic Chinese, of which the majority are 3rd generation. Their consolate does not have the manpower to track the hundreds of thousands (millions?) of ethnic Chinese in the bay area. Or the tens of thousands of TAIWANESE (most of whom could be assumed are in some way Pro-Taiwan...whatever that means).

China is not a totalitarian state. Read something about totalitarianism before you make such a claim.
Good reading on this subject can be found in the works of
Hannah Arendt
http://www.cgi/http://en.wikipedia.o.../Hannah_Arendt

Carl Friedrich
http://en.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCarl_Friedrich

And yes...I had to friggen use annomynizer to access Wiki because the Friggin Great Firewall of China blocks it. Friggin sucks balls because then I have to deal with porn popups for Japanese school-girls (my state-run ISP must know what type of porn I like)

Anyway, its also not communist...its socialist (again...whatever that means). But more rightly should be called an evolving technocratic capitalistic state with strong authoritarian and oligarchical elements. No one in China likes the government, but on the other hand, we in China generally don't like leaders who think the earth was created in a day and God sent his son to Earth to save people but those dirty Jews killed the son but the Jews are still the chosen people (head...explodes) and everything in the world is about this pursuit of freedom but if you do not pursue freedom in the same way with the same vigor as certain people then you're "Not With Us," and we should war against those who are bad (i.e. Not With Us", even if it creates alot of chaos and then setting up puppet governments that don't even govern well (how pathetic is that?) and then all forms of law break down and then ethnic violence and religeous intolerance spring up and ... uh... well you see where this is goin.

There are several of misconceptions in this thread:

1) You're mixing up [wiki]district[/wiki] and [wiki]territory[/wiki]. The login menu is for territory selection. And there is no international territory.

2) The "Asian" territories listed in the district menu are separate from the "western" territories (labeled "default" in the login menu). The Asian territories are different in several ways: Different ways of payment, separate clients, ... You can switch your character between the western territories (mind the limitation of max 4 times), but you cannot switch a character between western and Asian territories. It looks like ANet now merged the western and the asian clients all into one uniform client.

One quesiton though... I had an update about 2 weeks ago and since then, there are big Chinese characters on the loading screen for Guild Wars, even though I bought my copy online and it should be the standard American version. The Chinese name for GW is splashed infront of the English name. Do you guys have this, or is my copy of Guild Wars now connecting to Chinese servers and becoming slowly...Chinese? Wow...that sounds really funny to me for some reason. I will post sceenshot tonight. And if its now connecting to Chinese servers...why do I still get friggen lag?

Probably checking what language you have set in Windows. Anet adding more support for Chinese language is my guess.

In case someone still think GW is not going to be popular in China.

See the largest MMORPG media in China. GW is ranked one on highly anticipated MMORPGs. It have the same level of hype as on MMORPG.com before Prophacies was released.

This statement just contradict itself. How can communist also be capitalist?
China was a totalitarian state, and is not a totalitarian state.

wikipedia maybe blocked, but guildwiki is not

Apparently nobody can talk about districts without going OMG China blah blah blah blah blah. Are there possibly important issues to talk about concerning China? Maybe. Are we going to do it here, on a non-political forum about Guild Wars? Nope. Closed.