Which class deals consistent armor ignore/penetration damage?

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Santra
Ascalonian Squire
#1
Which class has access to the skills that deal damage that ignores damage or armor?

I've tried Eles with their 25% armor penetration air skills, but still don't really get wow'd by it when facing rangers.

I've heard that Domination mesmers and some necro builds are good at dealing armor ignoring damage but haven't really had the time to test it out (i'm one of those time starved gamers). What's everyone's thoughts?
MisterB
MisterB
Furnace Stoker
#2
All classes have skills that ignore armor, and for pure damage, warrior deals the most, in pressure, and DPS(single target damge).
chicks boy
chicks boy
Wilds Pathfinder
#3
Top damage makes in this order:

- Elementalist

- Necro

- Dervish

- Assassin

- Mesmer

- Ritualist

- Warrior

- Paragon

- Monk

- Wammo
Mesmer in Need
Mesmer in Need
Forge Runner
#4
i think most mesmer skills can do full dmg no matter what the armour rating. take it from me... i know about mesmers.
Akhilleus
Akhilleus
Forge Runner
#5
if you want consistent, good, useful armor ignoring attacks or spells...then NO CONTEST, go with a necro.
a blood necros blood spikes will ignore armor, as will any of the shadow damage skills delivered by most death magic.
curses are self explanatory; they (usually) do an indirect type of damage; in the way of degeneration or crippling an enemies ability to function.
necros, when used propperly, are probably guildwars' most versatile damage-dealer, which is why its such a shame most people simply use them as minionmasters.
Zamochit
Zamochit
Furnace Stoker
#6
^Couldnt agree more^
Lifestealing damage totally ignores armour, deals significant damage and often acts as a form of self heal. Oh yeah, it ignores Protective spirit and several other enchants too...
Been on the wrong end of a bloodspike more times than I care to remember....
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Santra
Ascalonian Squire
#7
Thankies, I suppose this is a good enough reason for me to try out the mesmer and necro.

Edit: Oookay, I'm sold. Definitely rolling the Necro when i get home from work.
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zelira
Elite Guru
#8
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Originally Posted by chicks boy
Top damage makes in this order:

- Elementalist

- Necro

- Dervish

- Assassin

- Mesmer

- Ritualist

- Warrior

- Paragon

- Monk

- Wammo



Wait, Rangers didn't even make the list? O.o
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dargon
Furnace Stoker
#9
Ele's with max earth can also do 118 dmg (no reduction due to armor, only certain spells) with obsidian flame every 5 seconds (give or take). The only drawback is that the spell causes exhaustion so you really don't want to spam it a huge amount if you can avoid it, unless you have a means of dealing with that.
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ricoboom
Pre-Searing Cadet
#10
any degeneration damage ignores armor - poison, bleeding, syphon, burning, etc
but direct and instant armor ignoring damage has only necromancer
that is why toucher build is so "powerfull"
Dutch Masterr
Dutch Masterr
Wilds Pathfinder
#11
if you want the most armor ignoring damage, use a mesmer for degen and all other skills are armor ignoring. necro blood magic is also armor ignoring.
knives
knives
Jungle Guide
#12
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricoboom
any degeneration damage ignores armor - poison, bleeding, syphon, burning, etc
but direct and instant armor ignoring damage has only necromancer
that is why toucher build is so "powerfull"
Mesmers have direct armor ignoring damage as well, albeit, its mostly conditional. What makes me sad is this is probably the mentality of the GW community in general, refusing to accept the talents of a good mesmer can rival that of a necro in a party most if not any day.
Haggard
Haggard
Desert Nomad
#13
Mesmers do have some incredibly high damage armour ignoring skills though.
Ineptitude = 150+
E-Burn/Surge = 80
Backfire = 150+
Spirit Something = 100+
Visions of Regret = 120
And don't forget good old Empathy, at 45, now a significant threat for a warrior (especially if he has plans to frenzy spike someone)
DeanBB
DeanBB
Forge Runner
#14
A smiting monk can dish out a lot of armor-ignoring damage and vs the right enemies get double or bonus damage.
Carboplatin
Carboplatin
Jungle Guide
#15
necros definitely. Hexs, degen, shadow.

and for the longest amount of time, at least for pve, due to soul reaping.
Sophitia Leafblade
Sophitia Leafblade
Desert Nomad
#16
EI would say Earth Eles, then Mesmers then Necros do the most damage.

You gotta love an Earth Ele with Crystal Wave + Teinai's crystals = 238 armour ignoring damage in 1.5 seconds and then obsidian flame on top.
Sofonisba
Sofonisba
Desert Nomad
#17
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Originally Posted by Santra
I've tried Eles with their 25% armor penetration air skills, but still don't really get wow'd by it when facing rangers.
All ranger armor has natural protection against elemental damage.
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nSin
Ascalonian Squire
#18
That;s exactly what he was saying... He never claimed otherwise.

Necros give the best armor ignoring damage, in specific blood magic for single targets and curses (spiteful spirit) for groups of enemies.
Sofonisba
Sofonisba
Desert Nomad
#19
Quote:
Originally Posted by nSin
That;s exactly what he was saying... He never claimed otherwise.
My bad; just that it seemed like the OP was puzzled by why they couldn't kill rangers with the uberairskilz.
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Random Dude
Frost Gate Guardian
#20
Quote:
Originally Posted by chicks boy
Top damage makes in this order:

- Elementalist

- Necro

- Dervish

- Assassin

- Mesmer

- Ritualist

- Warrior

- Paragon

- Monk

- Wammo
that list is so flawed