**RANT**
It seems that Australia has once again been left out of the loop in regards to events.
The opening of the eagerly awaited DoA (Domain of Anguish) is accessible at PST late evening...now is it just me or us Aussies dont get to play till..SATURDAY? If i read correctly the event was to be open FRIDAY. Now a time can be easily arranged during daylight hours for timezones but ...once again we're left forgotten.
Its not only this event. Its happened countless times, christmas events, haloween, dragon festivle, and considering Australia takes up a large portion of Guild Wars players, its my oppinion that a-net just dont seem to care anymore, (eg the shipment of the preorder Nightfall packs this year).
and of course...districts
Why on earth are us Aussies put under EUROPEAN districts???
Out timezones are hours upon hours apart, ( being closer to America than anything else), making it extremely troublesome for us players to mix with the rest of the community.
So ill ask the question, does A-net really consider us as part of the GuildWars comunity?
*puts on flame guards*
**END OF RANT**
Australia left out of the plan
Pwny Ride
xis10al
The event hasn't started yet here in America either, be patient.
Pwny Ride
like i said this isnt specifically about the event, its about us always getting the lower end of the stick 
Lafayette
You're not forgotten, you're just not converting timezones. Yes it may be more helpful for ANet to give exact times of update releases for every time zone in the world, but maybe wasted effort or not feasible or necessary. Or they may just assume that we could work it out for ourselves, which is a fair enough assumption.
It's not that hard to understand. They can't release on Friday in American time and Friday in Australian time. Those two days do not coincide. So think from the beginning, they're releasing it on Friday in America, so that must mean Saturday sometime for other parts of the globe. And I'm a New Zealander here, so I do know what you mean. But it is not ANet's fault. It just takes a teensy bit of common sense.
It's not that hard to understand. They can't release on Friday in American time and Friday in Australian time. Those two days do not coincide. So think from the beginning, they're releasing it on Friday in America, so that must mean Saturday sometime for other parts of the globe. And I'm a New Zealander here, so I do know what you mean. But it is not ANet's fault. It just takes a teensy bit of common sense.
Emik
Off topic (well sort of)
Don't put Australians under a different territory.
My entire alliance is Australian and i'd hate to change
Don't put Australians under a different territory.
My entire alliance is Australian and i'd hate to change
Axis
Maybe Im wrong, but it sounds to me that this has to do with timezones and not that anet hates australians.
Pwny Ride
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Off topic (well sort of)
Don't put Australians under a different territory. My entire alliance is Australian and i'd hate to change |
since everyone you play with is Australian, mixed guilds have a harder time playing together because of timezones.
Emik
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Yea but thats why you dont have the problems with the community,
since everyone you play with is Australian, mixed guilds have a harder time playing together because of timezones. |
My entire alliance is Australian from foundation.
Most leaders and officers are aussie's but there's a mass on otherplayers in all allied guilds
vaxmor
cry more please.
Anet provides access to zone for everyone at same time, and the OP cries and whines.
If Anet provided australian friday acces to new zone (and not providing access to americans until their friday), then all the americans would be here whining and crying.
solution: cry and whine more
Anet provides access to zone for everyone at same time, and the OP cries and whines.
If Anet provided australian friday acces to new zone (and not providing access to americans until their friday), then all the americans would be here whining and crying.
solution: cry and whine more
C2K
I don't think Austrailia gets left out alot. Most of the time, Anet starts their weekends at 12am PST, which is roughly noon give or take a few hours in Austrailia. That leaves out alot of Americans from actually getting started in those particular events (that is unless you are a night creature).
Anyway, the Domain of Anguish will be open forever, so there is no need to feel gyped out of anything.
Anyway, the Domain of Anguish will be open forever, so there is no need to feel gyped out of anything.
WhiteZombie
i dont understand this, really. most of arenanets major updates happen at midnight pst, which is (at current time standards) 7pm AuEST, which is perfect. theres only a few times where they launch something at midday (7am), and even then you can just play when you get home from work (or school). no biggie. for schoolkids its even less of a worry for weekend updates and events because they start saturday morning when the cartoons start :P
BoredJoe
Yeah Australia should get their own server and district. The only other ppl allowed on there should be for whining poms. (Poms are the British btw).
Sooty
I agree with you regarding having to waste a region change right from the start, a choice would be nice. They are aware of this issue and have said it happens because our boxes get shipped from europe and thats why we're put on euro servers.
However regarding timing of events, I don't find it too much of a problem usually. Except this weekend happens to be very rude timing because I'll have to keep one eye on the monitor and the other on the tele to make sure Oooh Aaah is getting wickets.
Wouldn't mind if they made them week long instead of weekend events though (now there's an idea).
It's the euros and koreans i feel sorry for. Hardly ever having favour would start to tick you off after a while.
However regarding timing of events, I don't find it too much of a problem usually. Except this weekend happens to be very rude timing because I'll have to keep one eye on the monitor and the other on the tele to make sure Oooh Aaah is getting wickets.
Wouldn't mind if they made them week long instead of weekend events though (now there's an idea).
It's the euros and koreans i feel sorry for. Hardly ever having favour would start to tick you off after a while.
Lady Lozza
The original poster is correct on only ONE account. Australian players who work will see less of the Domain of Anguish than EU or NA players. However this will ALWAYS be the case, as it is unfair to have staggered release times (and virtually impossible given the server setup).
The timezone however does work to our advantage usually in that release times are normally around 5-6pm EST, when we are getting home from work, on a Friday. EU and NA customers have to and do take the day off sick in order to get into the new content immediately upon release.
So this one doesn't. So what? We get the short end of the stick in the trade arena, but most of us don't waste our hard earned moolah now to buy the lastest and greatest anyway. It isn't like it is going anywhere. It is a permenant feature.
With regard to server, this has be brought up before. Anet says that it is not feasible to have a server for AU and NZ players. I'll take their word for this, but having said that I'm not too sure I'd change from the EU server anyway. I have so many friends in the UK I play with, and have made many more friends in the game (Germans, Swedes, Dutch) who I really enjoy playing with.
If you have a problem with the timezone differences, then maybe the NA server is for you, their main playing times (evenings/nights) are roughtly our afternoons/evenings.
As for WHY we default to EU, why not? We are English (pre-Microsoft designations) speakers after all.
The timezone however does work to our advantage usually in that release times are normally around 5-6pm EST, when we are getting home from work, on a Friday. EU and NA customers have to and do take the day off sick in order to get into the new content immediately upon release.
So this one doesn't. So what? We get the short end of the stick in the trade arena, but most of us don't waste our hard earned moolah now to buy the lastest and greatest anyway. It isn't like it is going anywhere. It is a permenant feature.
With regard to server, this has be brought up before. Anet says that it is not feasible to have a server for AU and NZ players. I'll take their word for this, but having said that I'm not too sure I'd change from the EU server anyway. I have so many friends in the UK I play with, and have made many more friends in the game (Germans, Swedes, Dutch) who I really enjoy playing with.
If you have a problem with the timezone differences, then maybe the NA server is for you, their main playing times (evenings/nights) are roughtly our afternoons/evenings.
As for WHY we default to EU, why not? We are English (pre-Microsoft designations) speakers after all.
Sooty
I doubt any Aussies would play on an aussie server. It'd be a ghost town. There's a lot of us in the game but nothin like enough to see districts full of people in the major outposts.
I picked the US servers because they seemed to be much fuller. One of my storage accounts is in Euro though, it has quite a different feel about it. A lot more mixed language chat etc in major districts. It's kind of cool actually, but yeah US servers is where everyone's at.
I picked the US servers because they seemed to be much fuller. One of my storage accounts is in Euro though, it has quite a different feel about it. A lot more mixed language chat etc in major districts. It's kind of cool actually, but yeah US servers is where everyone's at.
Sekkira
... You're an embarressment to Australians. Stop acting like a pom.
Formina
Mmm.. i've never had a problem with any of the timings of events in Australia. Could be just me though ~.~;
Lady Lozza
Not every Aussie is on the NA server. There is a sizable population of Australian players on the EU server. Some never bother changing, and others have formed friends by the time they realise they can change. And some like myself did change and couldn't put up with the amazingly bad behaviour of some of the NA players back when EU was a much quieter server.
We used to get NA players coming over to the EU server to spam how bad the server was in the chat channel in LA. Haven't see that for ages though... Might have something to do with NA having to actually fight for favour now...
The history of Aussies on NA servers was actually started by a number of large Aussie guilds changing because EU never had favour. That isn't the case anymore. I dare say that now Aussie players change because the guild they want to be in is on the NA servers, despite the fact that you don't HAVE to be on the servers to play with the guild, it's only FoW and UW that is the problem. And as for other languages, most Europeans understand enough English to get by in the game. Sure, you can usually tell if they aren't native speakers, but 90% of them actually make an effort. I find it amazing that the NA players are deadset against a French and Spanish district, despite the fact that their server does include regions that speak these languages.
Me??? I'm backing Australia to win the 2nd Ashes, so wth are you talking about?
Down with the Barmy Army!!!
We used to get NA players coming over to the EU server to spam how bad the server was in the chat channel in LA. Haven't see that for ages though... Might have something to do with NA having to actually fight for favour now...
The history of Aussies on NA servers was actually started by a number of large Aussie guilds changing because EU never had favour. That isn't the case anymore. I dare say that now Aussie players change because the guild they want to be in is on the NA servers, despite the fact that you don't HAVE to be on the servers to play with the guild, it's only FoW and UW that is the problem. And as for other languages, most Europeans understand enough English to get by in the game. Sure, you can usually tell if they aren't native speakers, but 90% of them actually make an effort. I find it amazing that the NA players are deadset against a French and Spanish district, despite the fact that their server does include regions that speak these languages.
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Down with the Barmy Army!!!
Thallandor
I am playing from Singapore, I am so screwed!!! /QQ more
Server issue- you can always switch to US servers, no one is stopping you.
Timezone issue- You get it "later", it ends "later" for you as well. There's really not that much of a difference except inconvience of start and end times. There were instances where non US players benefit from event time zone starts as well, just fewer in the number of cases. Edit: Not forgeting this event isnt going to go away, its here to stay.
where did you get this data from? Your guildies? -_-
Yep here in Singapore, when i am playing Amercians are sleeping, and when i am sleeping they are playing. ITS SO UNFAIR! US players should reverse their sleep/play cycle to suit ME ME ME.
Give me a local server or give me death /QQ
Theres many threads like this one over the course of time and has been brought up and closed. I dont see this as any different since its a rant anyways.
Server issue- you can always switch to US servers, no one is stopping you.
Timezone issue- You get it "later", it ends "later" for you as well. There's really not that much of a difference except inconvience of start and end times. There were instances where non US players benefit from event time zone starts as well, just fewer in the number of cases. Edit: Not forgeting this event isnt going to go away, its here to stay.
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Out timezones are hours upon hours apart, ( being closer to America than anything else), making it extremely troublesome for us players to mix with the rest of the community. So ill ask the question, does A-net really consider us as part of the GuildWars comunity?/ |
Give me a local server or give me death /QQ
Theres many threads like this one over the course of time and has been brought up and closed. I dont see this as any different since its a rant anyways.
Formina
When I started playing, I enjoyed the European districts for a while.. but I moved to the American one because back then, the American servers were alot more populated during the times that I played Guild Wars, especially when they split up the EU servers into separate language districts.
Don't really want to waste a territory change to find out whether the EU servers are populated now or not. >.<
Don't really want to waste a territory change to find out whether the EU servers are populated now or not. >.<
BoredJoe
Guild Wars is played by people in many, many different timezones. It'd be extremely impractical to try and implement events so that an event started at a convenient time for people in each of these timezones. And really what is a convenient time anyway? I'm sure a lot of (working) people would prefer weekends and not on a Friday night.
I'd imagine that someone would be around to check that the event started okay, and they would prefer to do it at a reasonable time locally, e.g 2pm instead of 2am. This may not always translate into a convenient Australian time.
Is it just me or do only Australians complain about this? I blame Johnny Howard.
I'd imagine that someone would be around to check that the event started okay, and they would prefer to do it at a reasonable time locally, e.g 2pm instead of 2am. This may not always translate into a convenient Australian time.
Is it just me or do only Australians complain about this? I blame Johnny Howard.
lg5000
Yes, all Australians complain about this.
I've had guildmeetings go wrong because I requested that we'd have it on MY (Australian) Sunday, and the meetings were held on the US Sunday.. which in turn, was MY Monday, and somehow, I don't think my work would appreciate me playing gw during work hours.
The real problem is that if someone says something starts on Friday, everyone thinks Friday, forgetting that we're ahead of you guys and consequently, we get dissapointed when we find out yous meant our Saturday and your Friday.
btw, being vague on the log in screen and saying 'late Friday night' causes major confusion.. it IS late Friday night here and early SATURDAY morning in NZ already.. GMT time would be nice, so I don't get confused?
I've had guildmeetings go wrong because I requested that we'd have it on MY (Australian) Sunday, and the meetings were held on the US Sunday.. which in turn, was MY Monday, and somehow, I don't think my work would appreciate me playing gw during work hours.
The real problem is that if someone says something starts on Friday, everyone thinks Friday, forgetting that we're ahead of you guys and consequently, we get dissapointed when we find out yous meant our Saturday and your Friday.
btw, being vague on the log in screen and saying 'late Friday night' causes major confusion.. it IS late Friday night here and early SATURDAY morning in NZ already.. GMT time would be nice, so I don't get confused?
Aegeroth
Sure, id like an Aussie server (im aussie)
But idc when it comes to the one day later thing, its a day, get over it.
But idc when it comes to the one day later thing, its a day, get over it.
-Loki-
Australia always gets left out of planning. There's not much you can do except grin and bare it. Australia is a pretty small market for this game (due in no small part to a complete lack of any form of advertisement) so planning to keep Australians happy while not making the territories which are more valuable to them happy just isn't a good idea. An Aussie server won't happen for that reason (not a very big game over here) as well as the fact that running a datacenter here with Australias 'behind 10 years' ISP's, would be stupidly expensive.
gabazieute
I live in Aussie since may.
Sure having events starting at late Friday night, or early Saturday morning is annoying, but good thing is they last till 7:00 pm (thanks to daylight saving)
I think aussie should be on us server, and had store currency in aud instead of pounds
It seems for Annette we are still an english colony
Sure having events starting at late Friday night, or early Saturday morning is annoying, but good thing is they last till 7:00 pm (thanks to daylight saving)
I think aussie should be on us server, and had store currency in aud instead of pounds
It seems for Annette we are still an english colony
Emik
And you should be proud of it...
Pommies over Yanks
This is sooo going to give me flames
Pommies over Yanks
This is sooo going to give me flames
lg5000
gabazieute, what gets me is that Australia is an english colony, but New Zealand is part of the EU.. at least, according to the payment options given by anet when buying more slots and stuffs.
And no, there are not enough of us here to make a separate server viable.. unless.. we REALLY don't want favour?
And no, there are not enough of us here to make a separate server viable.. unless.. we REALLY don't want favour?
stiffler
Perhaps an Australian District would be enough. I'm an aussie but I have English mates that I play with so I dont want to miss out on that. Although I would like to be apart of an Australian community of some sort, so perhaps just adding a new district could be good enough.
BoredJoe
Korea and Japan look a lot closer than US or Europe. An Australian/NZ district on those servers would make a lot more sense than on the US or Europe servers.
Jenn
That does kinda suck, but with how busy DoA is going to be, you might not be missing much. It's going to be hot news for a few days (at least!), and there's going to be new people coming in at massive rates over the next few days. Don't worry
Avarre
There is a large demographic in the eastern timezones, and I doubt Anet is out to get any of it.