Protective bond issues :S

Hi Im new to Guru (even thoguh i joined in May, i had completely forgot I had an accoutn here), and i hope i posted this in the right place,forgive me if it isnt :S...ive used the search button but havent found another thread pertaining to this so here i go...

Ok so i was trying to figure out new UW duo builds ever since 55/SS'ing in UW became pretty hard to do. So i figured maybe a Derv(not goin into the specifics cause the Derv aint the issue ) and Monk with a modified bond build might be able to do it.Tryed it with a hero monk,heres hisbuild:

Protective Bond (15 Pro)
Life Bond (16 Divine)
Balthazars Spirit
Essence Bond
Blessed Signent
Spellbreaker [elite]
Resurection Chant
Rebirth

Ok so the monk casts protective bond,life bond on the Derv, and casts balthazar spirits and essence bond on him self. Now at that attribute lvl, protective bond has a -3E everytime the Derv get hit,with b.spirit and essence on the monk still loses 1-E per hit.So i thought "why not even things up?" I got the hero monk to also cast essence bond on me that should have made things like this: -3(pro bond)+2(enhts on Mo)+1(essence on D)= 0E lost. So that should have cancelled out the -3(unless my basic math skills have gone to the crapper) and only make 1-E regen on the monk. So i tryed this build on minotaurs(didnt have favor at the time) and it was working for about 10 secs, then i looked at the energy lvl of the monk and saw it was droppin fast, even though he was using blessed sig every spare moment. Its been a long while since i last bonded, but what gives? I was able to hold up atleast 9 enchnts(i think ),wit the energy loss cancelled out, the monk only holds 5 enchnts, so why is he losing so much energy everytime I(the Derv) gets hit,even though hes spamming blessed sig? Is there an issue with essence bond no one knows about? Any explanation is much appreciated.

Prot bond is one of the worst skills ingame since the huge nerf it got. are you trying to stack essence bond?

Yup, you're trying to put 2 of the same maintained enchantments on the same person, which is impossible.

hmm... if you use it like this:

Life Bond on Derv
Prot Bond on Derv
Essense Bond on Derv
Essense Bond on Monk
Balth Spirit on Monk

i dont see any problems... are you sure prot bond IS in fact at 3 energy a hit? the only thing i could think of is that you are using prot bond BEFORE life bond thus making life bond not triggering and your bonder losing that 2 energy...

It's pretty much impossible to maintain your energy, let alone gain more of it, with Prot Bond in its current state. It was nerfed into oblivion back in the day, and there it is has stayed ever since.

u can maintain it cast mantra of flame, essence bond, balths then have a ranger cast that spirit that turns all physical dmg to ele dmg

I would suggest a mo/w 55 and a r/me with famine and av and sv because they don't run from spirits yet.

Life bond does not trigger essence last time i checked.

Yeah, I don't think Life Bond damage triggers Essence Bond. E-Bond actually checks for "physical or elemental" damage now.

Pity, it would've been a good solofarming+hero build.

The only way to run Protective Bond is by using Greater Confligation, Winter, Mantra of Frost and Essence Bond and/or Balthazar's Spirit, but this really doesn't compete when you can also use Protective Spirit and Shield of Absorption, so no point in trying if you'd ask me.

Life bond and life barrier return Untyped Damage. It's not physical or elemental, so it can't be changed with spirits and it doesn't trigger essence bond. There is a farming build that uses protective bond, balthazar's spirit, the 2 bonds, and symbiotic bond to maintain protective bond, but that won't work on a monk.
You could maybe mimic life barrier and use angelic bond...and then steal life bond or something...but that would require spamming a skill, so it kind of defeats the purpose.

No, it's impossible to farm with protective bond.

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