Petition for an Australian District

1) grant aussies a dist in euro servers.... sure.. but what about the hundreds of aussies on the US server (ALL of TTA LaW AuS WTF etc...)
2) grant us a server... sure.. waste more money setting up a server in australia, then setting up a NCSoft Aus coz they have to have staff over here for repairs etc.
3) stop complaining???

if europe gets favour so will we i play in american but i can only play at night really, 11 pm - 8 am


/signed AGAIN

Here's a screenshot from when Factions was released

Done.


I'd also like to point out that while it is any australians choice to travel to an aussie dist, I feel that once it is there it will have a lot more success then some of the other Euro countries. Half the time the Spanish dist completely vanishes because there is nobody playing over there. Why bother having a dist if not many people play GW over there. Also one other thing I'd like to point out to all the American's and English ect posting here, don't pretend you know us, Australian's are a very close, friendly community, we're like the town where everyone knows everybody. It's like I always say "the world would be better if there were more Aussies" whether you like us or not, don't think for a second that you know how we think or act, we are different to you. Hell, for a small country (in comparison to USA and England) look at our success in sports, we are slowly taking over the world. A little respect please.

Read the title to this string IT STATES a Australian district on the current server not a dedicated server for Australia
I think a Australian district is a reasonable request. I'm sure if the Americans and English were grouped together in the one district they would both be screaming for their own districts.
Sure there are similarities with the language but the cultures are totally different. As is Australia to England.
Why not allow Aussies access to a area that is dominated by fellow Aussies.

/signed

Page 1, need more opinions.

/signed, aslong as us kiwi's can come :P.
Its a good idea, I know aussies (and kiwis) have a very good sense of humour and are very nice people. Would be awesome.

I would also love to see the conversations in Lion Arch when the Rugby World Cup is one ^^

Your right, any sports related topic would make LA Aust dist the place to be

It will also be good for people being active. seeing I'm in an American guild, I have to get on at weird times to be an active member. So if there is an Aussie district there will be more poeple active at the right times.

Also when it comes to Wintersday, instead of snow it should be really hot and beachy ^^, seeing were weird and have our summer at the wrong time

well id actually not have an aus server cuz then we actually have to work to get favour while if were in europe or american server, we can sit back and let a group of other gamers get halls plus it saves us from going into international districs if u have europe or american friends.

The whole of the [Trex] alliance (Trex, Law, Wtf, Di, Re, AUS) is on the american server. In this respect, a European district really wouldn't suit us, whereas an american sub-district would.

However, given we are a PvP alliance it really doesn't matter that much to us.

Ideally there are two things our alliance would like to see:

1. An Australian/NZ (dare i say ANZAC) Region - wouldn't it be nice to win favour for Australia. A team from our alliance or from TTA holds Halls at least once a night (australian time) it would be nice to help out our countrymates with some favour instead of putting it to America and excluding people who are still in the default Euro district.

2. An aussie server - lag times are a disadvantage to any guild playing serious PvP.

Haha I'm sure afew Kiwi's could argue that

As said before Clinically Proven, this isnt for a Aussie server, but a district. Meaning an addon to either to American or Aussie servers

One could also argue that we Aussies are the way we are simply because there aren't that many of us. Overcrowding does funny things to people...

It could be interesting to have an Australasian district that's accessible to both the American and European server, in a similar way to how International is available to all. This would probably mean that the Australasian district never gets favour, but would mean that people who are normally spread over two servers during the Australian peak times have somewhere to congregate. Heck, it could even be useful for Americans and Europeans that play at funny hours as well!

/notsigned.

Not enough players

Australian*

I acknowledged that in my post, but I'll reiterate for you in one sentence: An aussie district means very little to an australian PvP guild.

By way of explanation: GvG doesnt need require a district (obviously) and TA/HA PuGs are predominately formed in International District, so where's the benefit?

/signed


y not? sounds perfectly fine to me!!!

/notsigned

What is the point in having a district on the euro servers for Aussies?

The districts are based on language, not geographical location. As many people have pointed out throughout this thread, having a distrcit dedicated to Australians isn't going to make more of them play, log, or even necessarily frequent said district.

I am an Australian, I lead the Australian guild Tyrannus Australis [Trex] which is the leading guild of the premier Australian PvP alliance (of the same name obviously). As Clinic has pointed out we, and all our allied guilds (whom he has already identified), are based on the American servers. Why? Because we experience less lag there and timezone issues are not as drastic.

The only sollution to this problem is to create a new region (and yes I'm aware that this is not what the op has put forward, but I disagree with the op, so make what you want of that) that incorporates the countries of the world that are largely based around Australia that are currently overlooked so far as regions go; Australia, Newzealand, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, Fiji, etc. This region could be set up in a fashion similar to the euro servers with districts allocated for different languages spoken in the region. I've found that having to connect to a server on the other side of the world does give us a minor disadvantage in pvp as our pings are generally about 200 worse than our American counterparts, it's not a big handicap, but when it comes to interupting 3/4 sec skills it makes a difference.

The main arguement against such an action, that I've seen in this discussion, is that there are not enough players in such a region to support it, although all numbers quoted seem largely speculated. Yet, one can only presume that there is some base to this, otherwise why has Anet not gone through with this already when they obviously are creating new regions (Taiwan, Japan and now China).

To cut a long post short, I don't think there is any grounds nor point in creating an Australian district on the euro servers.

No need.

http://www.anzgw.com/ - is there for a reason, join an Australian guild if you're so desperate to play with other Australians.

/sortofsigned

Why not just make it a sub district in the American districts? I would imagine that with all those extra countries in the European district, it's a bit taxed for space. Also, as many pointed out, the timezones and languages are more in synch one way or another. And quite honestly, as an American, I would really like to have the opportunity to continue playing with our brothers of the southern hemisphere

One thing I must point out - When I play later on at night, I don't encounter an overwhelming majority of Americans. When I read the chat's in the towns, it filled with Aussieisms. Personally I don't consider this a bad thing. Heck, a majority of the people in my guild are Australians, and the person that first introduced me to GW is an Australian. I would really miss having them moved to the European servers. If your going to do this, make it so it's in with the American districts! Not the European! ( No offense intended to any Europeans, who i have played with as well and find quite fun)

/notsigned

District != Region

Euro has lots of different language districts, but it's all one region.

Most of the aussie player-base is split between America and Europe. To make them all choose Europe -OR- America to get the Australia district is wrong.

I am in full agreement of Julius' suggestion. We need an Oceanic Region to hold Australia, NZ, and all the other asian countries that are less populous than Japan, Korea and China but still contribute to fair percentage of the player-base.

/notsigned if you mean server...
I'm not going to huddle to Int just to be able to play with my own guildmates (Yes they're mostly Australian)

/signed if you mean districts
This doesn't require changing to int districts sinc it's stillunder the home ones.

I dont see the point honestly i play the same times as austrailians as im from new zealand and the only time i can really get a decent pug or anything for a mission etc i have to wait till the morning when the europeans are on.. there simply isnt enough australians/newzealanders to do it

I still like you!

Wow, from what I have read so far is that Australians are spread out all over the place, how messy. Perhaps the damage has been done and trying to fix it may not rectify it at all. Such a shame really, I am a proud Australian, I love my country, and to think we are classed as a minority is quite insulting to me. To those that have said there are not enough Aussies playing, that is complete and utter RUBBISH!! There are more of us playing GW then Italy and Spain, (France is a bit of an if, I have seen a few in there districts). The demand for Nightfall over here was extremely high at EB stores. I have met a lot of Aussies in game without trying to hard, but most of the time when we call in towns we have to say "Australia" due to the messy mix of country's playing in the same districts. Now I wont pretend to understand what happens in US servers for Aussies, because I have never been there before, but in the Europe servers there are heaps of us there, but finding us is a different story.

What I am asking for is not much really, just a little district I can call home. When there are major events taking place in game English districts get as high as 40+. That’s 40 odd districts just for England to play around with and yet we can't have a single one . Now I could go on and on about why Anet should have given us our own server for the Australasian region, but frankly I don't blame them for not expecting GW to be so popular over here.

I might continue to do some research into the matter. From what I have seen there is a large amount of Australians in the Euro server, and there may be an equally or even higher amount in the US server which basically equates to this "Lots of Aussies, lost between here and there”. I shall endeavor to find out just how many there are of us playing.

For now, please continue to post you thoughts on the matter. I have enjoyed hearing the opinions from a lot of you, and I have learnt a lot on the way, perhaps I might change to the American server for a while to see what it's like over there, it may prove productive in my research. Thank you all.

Stiffler (IGN: Glichy Mc Glich)

Again you seem to misinterpret the district functions.
Yo say England has 40+ districts on events.
Not true.
Those districts are for everyone speaking english.
I'm belgian and theres a lot of dutch, swedish and other scandinavians and polish people and even more but i could go on for ever so i'll keep it at this.
Do we get a seperate district?
No we don't.

/not signed

Another separate English speaking districts on European server? Nonsense.
Without a decent cross-district party creation system it will make creating parties and trading even more difficult and requiring more district jumping.

I often play at some extreme hours and meet many Aussie players, without them districts would be soo very empty.

Also, addition of extra districts per each outpost requires some additional server processing power, just as more district-jumping players do, and I'm sure Anet doesnt want that without a really good reason.

I imagine it would be nice for them to have there own district, but i do find they bolster the english districts during periods when the numbers are low which helps both groups (late night Europeans and Australians/Nz'ers, but if enough people want it i say go for it.

Lol we don't speak english, eh mate eh. It'd be sweet as if those beauties at ANet made a pearler of a district. We could come back from the sheep shearin', grab ourselves a cold fosters, sit on our deck chairs nd play some GW with our fellow rugby players at comfortable times.

My idea, i agree, i got to go "this kiwi's gota fly". Haha Paradox!

/signed

It'd let us escape all that unintelligable babble which usually inhabits American District 1 of various places (yeah, I play on the Am server - more people on when I play - closer to home, compared to Euro servers which are on the other side of the planet...). Should be called the Australiasian district though Although, as long as we (the kiwi's and aussie's) get our own district, it'd be great. Might even start seeing Aus/NZ HA pugs taking halls, rather than just Law, TTA, and the like.

/signed


A Aussie district would be good for organizing events(HA pugs etc etc) but cant see many people actually using it for anything besides that.

Just to reiterate on what I've already posted, as this discussion seems to be polarized by the differences between pve and pvp sensibilities.

Districts don't really mean shit for pvp. GvG exists outside of districts and if you're serious about pugging in Ha you should be in id1. As for pve I don't see much point either tbh, I'm surprised people even still pug for pve now that heros are available (while their not the leetest players they don't drop, aggro random shit or bring mending unless you tell them to). If you were in an Aussie guild or alliance then you would have no trouble finding Aussie to play with.

For starters an Australian district on the euro servers is pointless in that it fails to deal with the greater issue of Australian players being spread across two servers (Am & Euro). The sollution to this problem is to make an Oceania Server to cater for South East Asian and Pacific countries.

If you want to play with Australians then join an Australian guild, someone has already posted a link to ANZGW where links to most of the Aussie guilds forums can be found. TTA and MM are both large social guilds with pve and pvp agendas and there are quite a few pvp orientated Aussie guilds also; AuS, WtF, Law, Di and Trex. There are also an assortment of Australian alliances.

So the reality of the situation is that there is no shortage of Aussie players, nor Aussie pugs. Pugs from Oceanic regions already take HoH on a regular basis, you can tell usually if it is an Aussie guild, but if it's just a pug it can be hard to tell that it's Aussies because it comes up as either Am or Euro.

So if you want to play with Aussies, join an Aussie guild and stop wasting Anet's time with this dribble. If you want more Aussie pugs, better pings and a sense of identity within the guild wars community, then you should be pushing for an Oceanic server/region instead.

The term Australasian was deliberate. It covers the Kiwis as well.

Makes me think of a comment I heard at one point about the Aus/Kiwi/American/Canadian relations - the gist is that Aussies and Kiwis taking the piss out of each other is just practise for when you put them both in the same room as a Yank, while any Canucks get to sit back and laugh at the fireworks.

y not(even though im not an aussie)
they deserve one too
/signed

/signed cos ....Australia ftw

Yes I know how it works, even the Germans sometimes get up to 40+ districts. I was trying to make a point about player numbers at times, sorry I probably wasn't very clear (working 13 hour straight shifts can screw with your mind a bit ). My main reason for the Aust Dist was more about time differences than anything else, yes I am well aware of if being a bit odd having two english speaking dists. Anyway, I'm dropping the matter for now, work is to busy atm, so I dont have the time and energy to deal with it. Maybe in the new year.

/signed

I dont live in Australia but aussies should get their own district.

Why?
Australia is not part of Europe and still people from there must play in the EU servers. They attleast should have own district.

And for those who say there is not enough players from Australia... Go and look how many people are playing at the Italy and Spain districts. I rarely see even 5 players at dist 1. Why they have own districts and Australia dont, EVEN when it is not part of Europe?

/Idontcare

So Australians want to split the already thinned out player base (3 campaigns, did you check any of the uncommon prophecies outposts lately?) even thinner, so they can indulge their proud "australian" feelings by having their own district. Go ahead, as a German happily playing in an international guild on the american servers I couldn't care less =P

- Xeeron

PS: Australia is a great country, been there for half a year, but that doesnt make the idea any better.

I say we just put everyone on the same server and put separate districts for each country

but really I dont see the point....districts are to separate languages not regions.

/not signed (district)

/signed (server)

agree with julius get us better pings in pvp, us aussies are everywhere look behind u u will see us we are the ones that probably just flogged you in ha or gvg with the ping handicap.

look out when we get our own server and the playing field is even

I am in an Aus/NZ guild (TTA to be exact), however, I *still* enjoy meeting randoms aussies and kiwi's while henching or pugging around PvE (even after 18months at this game). Many great times have happened from such occurences - dare I say, Random aus/nz pugs ftw ?

HOWEVER, there isn't quite enough of us to warrant our own server. Chances are we'd never see favour.. and not to mention it'd be rather empty in a few places at times. Which is why it'd be better to have it as a/multiple districts on either the European or American (either/or, I'm not too picky) servers. If it gets quiet in the aus/nz districts you could always pop over to another district (depending on which servers it's is based on).

And as to the sense of identity idea you have brought up, I already get the feeling of being really chuffed with being part of the Australian and New Zealand Guild Wars community when I see either Ex Talionis or Trans Tasman Alliance taking/holding the Hall of Heroes. Go the down-under teams taking HoH!

Having the Aust. Districts on the European *does* make sense too. All new Aus/NZ GW accounts are now stuck on the European servers by default. The Aussie representative guy (sorry to him, can't remember the name for the life of me ) happens to work in ANet Euro... which is why it'd be on said European servers.
I highly doubt there will ever be an Oceania server of Aus, NZ, Pacific, and SE Asian countries. Why? Languages in said SE Asian countries are too different to English for it too work. Character sets may/may not agree... Not to mention the effort required to set up and maintain the servers ... not the most friendly job in the world, server support...
And I have yet to experience issues with latency, despite not being connected to an aussie server. In fact, the only time I have any (even slight) problems is when my own internet connection decides to spit the dummy. I have no problems with interrupting skills (even ones with low-ish cast times).

About your pve comments: I still pug pve a bit - I do meet a few nice people on my travels, AND I can help the new people out, who sometimes have no clue what to do (for some, GW is their first online game, and/or first RPG-style game). Yes, there ARE nice people on the American servers.. not all of them spout all of that mind-rot that seems to flood Random Arenas AD1, and sometimes 2.

And this discussion (what you have termed 'dribble') can be the breeding grounds for brilliant ideas that can occasionally pop up, and ANet may implement.

Oh, and another reason we need the districts... we need somewhere to discuss the rugby, league and cricket.