best dagger?
Aimanmi
can anyone tell me whats the best daggers in guild wars?
Dutch Masterr
there are no "best" daggers but i believe that dragon scythes and zodiac daggers are the rarest if thats what your meant.
Dutch Masterr
there are no "best" daggers but i believe that dragon scythes and zodiac daggers are the rarest if thats what you meant.
zeroxy
I like aureate daggers best
Yanman.be
Slashing damage type daggers max damage req. 8 is as perfect as you can go...
Barghest
Why slashing? Which advantages compared to piercing damge has this damage type?
Barghest
Barghest
dargon
There are no skills that mitigate slashing damage. Piercing damage / arrows are both effected by Shields Up, arrows more so, but it still gives +50 armor vs assassins with piercing weapons.
Skuld
zealous, fort, slashing, meet the req in most cases imo
pve-er
no best dagger, it is all situational, my regular dagger is a Zealous Butterfly Knife of Fortitute. becasue I cannot get a Everthorn split chakram.
Kaane
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Originally Posted by dargon
There are no skills that mitigate slashing damage. Piercing damage / arrows are both effected by Shields Up, arrows more so, but it still gives +50 armor vs assassins with piercing weapons.
Bladeturn Refrain, Paragon skill.
Etrik
Steel daggers <3
Domino
I'm torn between Shiro's and Darkroots
Bloodied Blade
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Originally Posted by Kaane
Bladeturn Refrain, Paragon skill.
Which lasts for like 5 seconds...whereas there is actually armor that directly gives +armor vs. piercing. Bladeturn Refrain is also a highly uncommon skill to see in both PvP and PvE (if it's in PvE, swap daggers...you'll be fighting it a while). It isn't common in PvP just because the duration makes it a piece of crap (I have not seen a single paragon run Bladeturn Refrain outside of RA... and that was a single time).
Bloodied Blade
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Originally Posted by Domino
I'm torn between Shiro's and Darkroots
I believe Darkroots are lower req...Shiro's are annoying because sometimes your build doesn't allow you to exceed 12 points in any given attribute.
Etrik
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Originally Posted by Bloodied Blade
Which lasts for like 5 seconds...whereas there is actually armor that directly gives +armor vs. piercing. Bladeturn Refrain is also a highly uncommon skill to see in both PvP and PvE (if it's in PvE, swap daggers...you'll be fighting it a while). It isn't common in PvP just because the duration makes it a piece of crap (I have not seen a single paragon run Bladeturn Refrain outside of RA... and that was a single time).
Actually it lasts for about 10 minutes, it's an echo. And you see it quite often in HA, especially with holding builds that employ 2 Paragons. One packs Mending Refrain, the other Bladeturn.
Yanman.be
Everthorn's chakrams are the best greens imo.
Slashing because: Shields up! is a counter, sometimes people will take vs piercing armour because of all the daggers/arrows/axes/spears.
It's not necessary, but it can give you an advantage....
Slashing because: Shields up! is a counter, sometimes people will take vs piercing armour because of all the daggers/arrows/axes/spears.
It's not necessary, but it can give you an advantage....
Ivan Darklord
I use Xuekao's daggers, why? Because I always remain enchanted under Shadow Refuge or Way of Perfection. Well I recommend them for my build and not for anything else.
lord_shar
Ungues of the Forgotten get my vote. zealous, 15>50, +30 life, and a sweet dagger skin to boot (looks Klingon).
fleshvirus
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Originally Posted by Dutch Masterr
there are no "best" daggers but i believe that dragon scythes and zodiac daggers are the rarest if thats what your meant.
so far i know, Energy Gain daggers are owesome if you want to spam all of your skills on a target.
Zodiacs are the rarest daggers
Zodiacs are the rarest daggers
TABellis
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Originally Posted by lord_shar
Ungues of the Forgotten get my vote. zealous, 15>50, +30 life, and a sweet dagger skin to boot (looks Klingon).
Are these slashing dmg? If they are, I might get me a pair.
I like shiro's, except for the 15 req, even 13 would have been better, but I usually use my set of Dragon Scythes I got in the Kurzick forests from a chest.
I like shiro's, except for the 15 req, even 13 would have been better, but I usually use my set of Dragon Scythes I got in the Kurzick forests from a chest.
lord_shar
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Originally Posted by TABellis
Are these slashing dmg? If they are, I might get me a pair.
I like shiro's, except for the 15 req, even 13 would have been better, but I usually use my set of Dragon Scythes I got in the Kurzick forests from a chest. Yes, Ungues of the Forgotten are slashing damage, which is why I like 'em so much.
I think salient daggers are the rarest dropped skin out there ( I have more zodiacs than salients), but Ungues are currently dropped only as greens.
I like shiro's, except for the 15 req, even 13 would have been better, but I usually use my set of Dragon Scythes I got in the Kurzick forests from a chest. Yes, Ungues of the Forgotten are slashing damage, which is why I like 'em so much.
I think salient daggers are the rarest dropped skin out there ( I have more zodiacs than salients), but Ungues are currently dropped only as greens.
Seamus Finn
I would recommend having at least a zealous pair of peircing and slashing since there are now +10 vs slashing mod shields readily available and mor eoften used in my opinion than teh piercing mod. Bringing both types give you one of teh few very small advantages pve still offers to pvp chars [hush hush though or they will nerf that too 
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Yanman.be
Indeed Seamus. But I was answering at the OP's question: the best daggers.
X Cytherea X
every sin should have...
1 vamp daggers for spiking with combo
1 zealous daggers for building up energy with normal attacks
1 elemental daggers for warriors
1 vamp daggers for spiking with combo
1 zealous daggers for building up energy with normal attacks
1 elemental daggers for warriors
Yanman.be
Cytherea, I would stick to zealous forever... You want as much energy as possible, spiking people one by one, the only way to use zealous daggers is during your spike combo. Good sins won't use autoattacks.
Get a target->kill->Get a target ->kill->etc...
Where's the room for normal attacks? There isn't. Sins should avoid combat if they're not killing things. This is the reason why Locust's Fury sucks...
Get a target->kill->Get a target ->kill->etc...
Where's the room for normal attacks? There isn't. Sins should avoid combat if they're not killing things. This is the reason why Locust's Fury sucks...
X Cytherea X
the extra damage from vamp on a squishy or elemental on a warrior helps in many cases
you're right about avoiding autoattacks but if the situation allows it, why not
you're right about avoiding autoattacks but if the situation allows it, why not
Yanman.be
On my builds, the situation never allows it-> I use heavy energy chains, that's why I'll always stick to zealous...
aZn invaZn
the only 15>50 20/20 +30 daggers are Ardehs Daggers( according to guildwiki), in nightfall
shouldnt they be the best daggers in the game?
the trend seems to be that 15>50 20/20 +30 are the best mods a physical wep can have since anet likes to put them on the high end greens like kanaxais and urgoz
oh well i dunno
as for me, i use ceremonial daggers. 15>50 + 30, great skin and i love zealous on daggers
i dont know why people would care about them being peircing damage. i mean how often do u run into a foe (in PvE) that happens to have shields up and it ends up ur whole team dies jus coz u didnt put in that extra +10 dmg
spose in PvP its a lot different
shouldnt they be the best daggers in the game?
the trend seems to be that 15>50 20/20 +30 are the best mods a physical wep can have since anet likes to put them on the high end greens like kanaxais and urgoz
oh well i dunno
as for me, i use ceremonial daggers. 15>50 + 30, great skin and i love zealous on daggers
i dont know why people would care about them being peircing damage. i mean how often do u run into a foe (in PvE) that happens to have shields up and it ends up ur whole team dies jus coz u didnt put in that extra +10 dmg
spose in PvP its a lot different
lord_shar
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Originally Posted by aZn invaZn
the only 15>50 20/20 +30 daggers are Ardehs Daggers( according to guildwiki), in nightfall
shouldnt they be the best daggers in the game?
the trend seems to be that 15>50 20/20 +30 are the best mods a physical wep can have since anet likes to put them on the high end greens like kanaxais and urgoz
oh well i dunno
...<SNIP>... For an assassin, zealous daggers easily beat sundering daggers due to the huge energy requirements of sustained dagger attack chains.
shouldnt they be the best daggers in the game?
the trend seems to be that 15>50 20/20 +30 are the best mods a physical wep can have since anet likes to put them on the high end greens like kanaxais and urgoz
oh well i dunno
...<SNIP>... For an assassin, zealous daggers easily beat sundering daggers due to the huge energy requirements of sustained dagger attack chains.
Yanman.be
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Originally Posted by aZn invaZn
the only 15>50 20/20 +30 daggers are Ardehs Daggers( according to guildwiki), in nightfall
shouldnt they be the best daggers in the game?
the trend seems to be that 15>50 20/20 +30 are the best mods a physical wep can have since anet likes to put them on the high end greens like kanaxais and urgoz
oh well i dunno
as for me, i use ceremonial daggers. 15>50 + 30, great skin and i love zealous on daggers
i dont know why people would care about them being peircing damage. i mean how often do u run into a foe (in PvE) that happens to have shields up and it ends up ur whole team dies jus coz u didnt put in that extra +10 dmg
spose in PvP its a lot different
Just because daggers and mods are expensive doesn't mean they're the best.
Sundering sucks, and most pve'ers just buy the most expensive item, because they think it's the best...
If you can choose between slashing or piercing, slashing wins hands down.
shouldnt they be the best daggers in the game?
the trend seems to be that 15>50 20/20 +30 are the best mods a physical wep can have since anet likes to put them on the high end greens like kanaxais and urgoz
oh well i dunno
as for me, i use ceremonial daggers. 15>50 + 30, great skin and i love zealous on daggers
i dont know why people would care about them being peircing damage. i mean how often do u run into a foe (in PvE) that happens to have shields up and it ends up ur whole team dies jus coz u didnt put in that extra +10 dmg
spose in PvP its a lot different
Just because daggers and mods are expensive doesn't mean they're the best.
Sundering sucks, and most pve'ers just buy the most expensive item, because they think it's the best...
If you can choose between slashing or piercing, slashing wins hands down.
Diddy bow
Mostly i use shreaders talons tbh 
or ill use my ceremonial if i need zelous and somtimes darkroots if im usin a special build 
or ill use my ceremonial if i need zelous and somtimes darkroots if im usin a special build
l Artemis Entreri l
btw numbers show anyway that, in the end, vampiric mod does more damage than sundering and is 12323867451326659234k cheaper
aZn invaZn
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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
Just because daggers and mods are expensive doesn't mean they're the best.
Sundering sucks, and most pve'ers just buy the most expensive item, because they think it's the best...
If you can choose between slashing or piercing, slashing wins hands down. i was not trying to say that sundering was the best (in fact i think they suck on daggers) but i was jus saying that anet puts these mods on high end greens, making people think they are good.
on daggers, i reckon zealous and best, followed by vamp
Sundering sucks, and most pve'ers just buy the most expensive item, because they think it's the best...
If you can choose between slashing or piercing, slashing wins hands down. i was not trying to say that sundering was the best (in fact i think they suck on daggers) but i was jus saying that anet puts these mods on high end greens, making people think they are good.
on daggers, i reckon zealous and best, followed by vamp
Aimanmi
wow its been a long time since i dont check this thread!!!!well,but i do like dragon scythe better.Do anyone have a req 8 15^50 dragon scythe to trade for myreq 8 14^50 20/20 +30 zodiac daggers?
X Cytherea X
ive said it before and ill say it again... you NEED elemental daggers when fighting warriors! the damage you do to them will be almost equal to hitting a squishy! (like eles, mes, etc)
i use ssaresh's kris daggers when shadowprison-spiking warriors... instant kill!
and of course, shiro's for everything else
i use ssaresh's kris daggers when shadowprison-spiking warriors... instant kill!
and of course, shiro's for everything else
A_Muppet
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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
Slashing damage type daggers max damage req. 8 is as perfect as you can go...
You can get req 7 max damage weapons. My brother has a req 7 15^50 longsword (The claymore style one) that's max damage.
Yanman.be
req7 is pretty rare though...
milkflopance
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Originally Posted by dargon
And my favourite dagger mods are vampiric and zealous.
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Originally Posted by l Artemis Entreri l
btw numbers show anyway that, in the end, vampiric mod does more damage than sundering and is 12323867451326659234k cheaper
couldn't agree more
icedragon981
I use the green daggers "Darkroot's Daggers" and I find them pretty good, works great with an AoD build, like the skin as well.
Yanman.be
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Originally Posted by milkflopance
Actualy the paragon skill "Bladeturn Refrain" gives +10-42 armor against slashing.
I'm pretty sure People will prefer Shields Up! than Bladeturn Refrain.
Also: Shields Up! is 50 al for 18 seconds in an area and 50% chance to block incoming projectile attacks every 30 seconds for 15 energy per cast. Bladeturn Refrain is 34 al for 20 seconds to target allie every 8 seconds for 5 energy per cast. Both attributes have 12 points. It's pretty obvious You're going to pick Shields Up!. It's a good skill to take a duplicate with, so you have it up 24/7. It's also usefull for ganking the guild hall,although the guild lord might actually use slashing damage himself. |
