The Deep

I'm sure many of you have played some sort of elite area such as The Deep. And I'm sure many of you would love to see FoW, Underworld and other such areas become more accessible. Well, we can't really do much about FoW or UW, but the deep and warren need a slight change. As it currently stands, those two areas can be accessed by members of the guild with the leading faction points. Good for these guilds. They deserve a reward. But making it only accessible to them and those they want to take their time out to ferry is a bit of a problem. To make it clear, I'll list the problems with the current system.

-Only a large alliance has a hope of gaining enough faction to take over cities making this method a poor situation of smaller tight knit guilds who wish to remain so.

-It doesn't ONLY let in members of the alliance who have control, but also people they wish to ferry. This is NOT rewarding those players since some of them spend quite a bit of time merely ferrying people back and forth. Most don't even get any gold out of it. They do it for free.

-It doesn't exclude the worst players or solely include the best since any player in a large alliance has a solid chance of getting in, whether they have terrible or great skills.

The change I'm proposing would be simple. Make it so that it is accessible to everyone in some way. The "bonus" for players controlling a city should be changed so that they do not have to ferry people as a reward. The reward could be something like an increased chance of recieving rare weapons or gold or something. Maybe a mini pet for taking control or a cape trim. Perhaps they can charge a small fee for people teleporting into the deep which would be shared out among the guild members. Anything but the current system.

Forgive this for being so long, but allow me to list what it says on the box. Exclusive elite missions. The most powerful alliances earn access to exclusive missions designed to challenge even the most advanced gamers.

So it was meant to be an elite area for an elite few that would be very challenging, am I right? Well the system now has not succeeded in any of those ways, so while it was a noble effort, please change it now for the benefit of all.

I think I heard someone say that A.Net, in hindsight, realized it was unfair and that they were going to change it. If that's the case, then they'll probably do it someday. If not, then the voices are starting to get to me.

Also, i think this has been stated before, but reiteration has never killed anyone.

And if you allow anyone to go into elite areas as they choose, then you get a 1400 post thread right here.

Maybe it is better if nobody has access to those areas.

I'm sorry, were you tired when you wrote this? I just don't understand the message you were trying to convey.

Sorry if this has been suggested before, I've been out of GW for a few months and the forums likewise. Thought it would be a good idea to mention it though. Hopefully they are changing it sometime soon [prays at the base of Dwaynas statue]

Unfortunately, as Enchanted Warrior has said in another thread, C'est la vie. C'est dommage.

They added greens at prophecies a short time after factions were released. And Enchanted Warrior doesnt work at a.net, so he doesnt know a thing.
There are a lot of upgrades they are working on right now (i presume), just give them time.

Like i said in a previous thread, they can make normal players pay 500g to get into The Deep and dont charge players that are controling Cavalon/House, this way they could charge to "ferry/taxi".

That is a good idea. Although really... if you spent all that faction to take control of a city, you deserve a little more than 500g savings.

I posted a thread about that before NF (here), with quotes of Gaile originally posted one month or so after the release of Factions, when everybody was really upset because of this injust sytem. She said then they'd change it within 1 or 2 months. 7 months later, nothing was changed. However Gaile also stated recently they were still working on that. I'm confused now...

/signed, of course.

/signed yup

Flawed grinding system & two elite areas don't mix up well.

imagine if the deep and urgoz warren were as active as they used to be.
now imagined if they charged 300 gold per ferry?
u can get 2,100 gold easly

the problem now is how to bring back these people to the elite missions, first of all they have to modigy the elite missions so that you would requive most of the classes, not just "b/p" at urgoz and E,W,N and Mo team at The Deep.

They need to add something to make mesmers needed, smiters needed, assassins needed, paragons, dervishes, trappers, ritualists.
Some ideas: Monsters that will only take dmg from spells that ignore armor (like obsidian flame, light damage, dark damage, chaos damage, life stealing).
Monsters that can only take dmg from spirits.
Monsters that take double damage from holy damage.
Monsters that will only die when suffering from 3 or more conditions. Monsters that will only die when with 50% energy or lower.
Monsters that will only take damage from foes with shouts or 2 or more shouts.
Monsters that have a lot of enchants.
Monsters that will only die with piercing damage.
Monsters that will only die with condition and hex damage.
Monsters that will take only critical damage.

Not necessarily monsters, just explore this, like you cant cast spells unless you are affected by a shout, by a spirit, or something like that

Maybe A-Net has been attempting to think of a good reward to replace those who gain control of the houses. Although a 5 month lag time on their response is a little frightening.

Being a member of the alliance holding one of the 2 capitals is also a pain. Some people are really nice when you ferry them - others PM you to have a ferry when you're busy, and sometimes even insult you when you say you don't have time for that.

Concerning the reward for holding the town, I don't think special weapons, discounts on... something... and the like are good idea. Why not make the elite mission a bit easier for the holding alliance instead? For example +20% damage on the foes / -20% damage taken? Or anything that would help them do the mission, without making others feel jealous or think it's injust as special equipement and such would.

source: me
location: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10083449

I just hope that all the unpopular areas are tweaked to make them more popular someday.
I get depressed every time I check out The Deep, Urgoz, Jade Quarry.