Excess Skill Points
rubics
Would it imbalance the game to allow people to redeem extra skill points for gold or skills? My idea is to allow people to trade 2 skill points for a skill (without having to pony up a platinum). Alternative, perhaps they could be sold for 100 gold, or used like battle commendations. As is, I find myself approaching the 100 skill point mark with my primary character without any real use for them (since I'm not interested in the skill hunter title).
Priest Of Sin
100 gold per skillpoint.
10 skillpoints= 1 platinum
100 skillpoints= 10 platinum
1000 skillpoints= 100 platinum
10000 skillpoints= 1000 platinum
I dunno about you, but that would be the easiest hundred plat i've ever made
/notsigned, keep them for future skills.
10 skillpoints= 1 platinum
100 skillpoints= 10 platinum
1000 skillpoints= 100 platinum
10000 skillpoints= 1000 platinum
I dunno about you, but that would be the easiest hundred plat i've ever made
/notsigned, keep them for future skills.
FelixCarter
106 Skill Points and no need to use them. I think we should be able to trade them in for Faction, personally. But then you'll have everyone on this forum going "is too umbalanced nub /NOTSIGNEDBECAUSEGODMADEMEUGLY".
Hey... If A.Net is gonna make PvE like PvP, then the two should be interchangeable somewhere.
Hey... If A.Net is gonna make PvE like PvP, then the two should be interchangeable somewhere.
Angel Netherborn
trade skill points for gold? /unsigned
trade multiple skill points for skill? /signed
trade multiple skill points for skill? /signed
4ssassin
/signed on trading 2 skill points for 1 skill. imho, if the game is about skill over time, why do skills cost 1k anyways? go figure...
bam23
I have 112 skill points at the moment, and nothing to do with them (I don't have nightfall).
Something to do with them would be cool.
Something to do with them would be cool.
Terra Xin
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Originally Posted by Priest Of Sin
100 gold per skillpoint.
10 skillpoints= 1 platinum 100 skillpoints= 10 platinum 1000 skillpoints= 100 platinum 10000 skillpoints= 1000 platinum I dunno about you, but that would be the easiest hundred plat i've ever made /notsigned, keep them for future skills. |
...easiest??? You actually have 10,000 skill points? I think anyone who has the time to accumulate that amount would deserve 1k platinum. The amount of time it takes to get 1 skill point takes about 10 minutes if you're farming hardcore. 100,000 minutes of gameplay? Good luck to you.
4ssassin
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Originally Posted by Terra Xin
...easiest??? You actually have 10,000 skill points? I think anyone who has the time to accumulate that amount would deserve 1k platinum. The amount of time it takes to get 1 skill point takes about 10 minutes if you're farming hardcore. 100,000 minutes of gameplay? Good luck to you.
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HKSdivision
I have 193 skill points and I'm not interested in the skill hunter title either.
/signed for trading 2 skill points for 1 skill
/signed for trading 2 skill points for 1 skill
Terra Xin
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Originally Posted by 4ssassin
and the math shows..he has 1,000 skill points, not 10,000. still vaild tho
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Originally Posted by Priest of Sin
10000 skillpoints= 1000 platinum
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Originally Posted by 4ssassin
/signed on trading 2 skill points for 1 skill. imho, if the game is about skill over time, why do skills cost 1k anyways? go figure...
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Perynne
/notsigned for trading skill points for gold
/signed for trading more skill points for skills or faction
Imho, skill points are meant to be used for skills, not for hoarding money.
/signed for trading more skill points for skills or faction
Imho, skill points are meant to be used for skills, not for hoarding money.
Emik
I agree...
I've earned around 500 skillspoints now.
I'll be needing alot to complte my skill hunter title but after that i'm all out of ideas...
/signed for multiple skillpoints fior a skill.
/notsigned for money. (the game is goldgrinding enuff as it is)
I've earned around 500 skillspoints now.
I'll be needing alot to complte my skill hunter title but after that i'm all out of ideas...
/signed for multiple skillpoints fior a skill.
/notsigned for money. (the game is goldgrinding enuff as it is)
ValidusMonachus
Perhaps introduce trading in 1 skill point for 500 Balthazar faction?
rubics
Yeah I thought gold was kinda problematic b/c of the possibility of disrupting the game economy. . . but it'd really be nice to trade them for skills (which was the point of money in the first place. heh).
Aegeroth
/signed on 2 for 1.
Carth`
/notsigned
How exactly do the skill points bother you? If you don't want to use them, ignore them. If you want to buy a skill or cap an elite, use your skill points.
I can't understand this, a month ago there were dozens of people complaining skill points were too hard to get and they want to be able to buy skills without them. Now there are people moaning "ohhh nooo I've got too many skill points nooo" and they want to convert them into money or faction or some other game commodity that isn't skills. Make your minds up.
How exactly do the skill points bother you? If you don't want to use them, ignore them. If you want to buy a skill or cap an elite, use your skill points.
I can't understand this, a month ago there were dozens of people complaining skill points were too hard to get and they want to be able to buy skills without them. Now there are people moaning "ohhh nooo I've got too many skill points nooo" and they want to convert them into money or faction or some other game commodity that isn't skills. Make your minds up.
hubin_at
/signed on 2 for 1.
If that sound too cheap,
3 for 1,
4 for 1,
5 for 1 would still be fine with me.
If that sound too cheap,
3 for 1,
4 for 1,
5 for 1 would still be fine with me.
Ferret
/signed trading skill points for skills with paying the gold on top.
given the cost at 1k each, prolly 4 for 1 would be more reasonable. Even though i say this, it wont do me much good right now anyway. I have all three chapters, i have purchased every ranger skill for my ranger and still have over 160 skill points. I'd have to wait for the next chapter for this to do any good for me there, but at least the points would be useful for something them.
Other than that, yeah, maybe trade for Faction (of your choice, 1 skill point for 100 Faction).
Ferret
given the cost at 1k each, prolly 4 for 1 would be more reasonable. Even though i say this, it wont do me much good right now anyway. I have all three chapters, i have purchased every ranger skill for my ranger and still have over 160 skill points. I'd have to wait for the next chapter for this to do any good for me there, but at least the points would be useful for something them.
Other than that, yeah, maybe trade for Faction (of your choice, 1 skill point for 100 Faction).
Ferret
Twonaiver
i like both ideas
id love to trade my 500 skill points for like 50k lol
/signed
and i would still be happy tradin my points for skill without the 1k tax
/signed
id love to trade my 500 skill points for like 50k lol
/signed
and i would still be happy tradin my points for skill without the 1k tax
/signed
Series
/semi-signed for 2 skill points for 1 skill
The only problem with this is that it would kick you in the face eventually IMO... the skill points will be eaten up too fast.
The only problem with this is that it would kick you in the face eventually IMO... the skill points will be eaten up too fast.
mqstout
The only time I don't run out of skill points is when I run out of gold first.
Crom The Pale
/notsigned
This would give an advantage to people that have been playing longer and have ammassed a large number of skill points. This is of no use to new players who have to aquire a large number of skill points just to purchase there primary skills.
As it stands now the time needed to earn 1 skill points is at least equal if not longer than earning 1k. So if you wish to use your skill points then dont spend all your cash on 15k armor and such.
This would give an advantage to people that have been playing longer and have ammassed a large number of skill points. This is of no use to new players who have to aquire a large number of skill points just to purchase there primary skills.
As it stands now the time needed to earn 1 skill points is at least equal if not longer than earning 1k. So if you wish to use your skill points then dont spend all your cash on 15k armor and such.
Saphrium
/signed for multiple skills points for 1 skill.
avid Woe player, too many extra skill points need to spend
avid Woe player, too many extra skill points need to spend
Heavens Feel
/signed
Thomas.knbk
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Originally Posted by ValidusMonachus
Perhaps introduce trading in 1 skill point for 500 Balthazar faction?
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Drewfense
Although I wouldn't judge someone by balthazar faction alone...it is a moderate indicator and you really already have that connection between pve and pvp. Whenever you buy/earn a skill, you unlock it, moving yourself towards UAX. Giving you faction to then spend on skills would accomplish the same goal, except it would make you falsely appear that you pvp.
Heavens Feel
signed
LiQuId StEeL
I'd rather trade money for skill points than the other way around.
/notsigned
/notsigned
Pyro maniac
/notsigned points for money
/notsigned multiple points for skill
/notsigned points for faction
my suggestion would be whenever you just want to unlock a skill, you just pay 1 skill point. Same idea as skill for faction, however now you can't obtain elites with is. Just skills you could equip ingame.
/notsigned multiple points for skill
/notsigned points for faction
my suggestion would be whenever you just want to unlock a skill, you just pay 1 skill point. Same idea as skill for faction, however now you can't obtain elites with is. Just skills you could equip ingame.
Evilsod
Trade skill points for money?
Are you trying to give solo farmers even more reason to carry on? Why in gods name would Anet go so far to stop botters and abusive solo farming to turn around and give away gold for skill points. Seriously at least think of something that may have a chance in hell of been implemented.
Well i guess you did. Trading multiple skill points for a skill wouldn't be bad. But thats way too easy to get a UAS and still encourages solo farming for exp since any gold you get would be a nice byproduct.
But semi-signed for multiple skill points = a free skill, just more than 2 per skill. Make it 5.
Are you trying to give solo farmers even more reason to carry on? Why in gods name would Anet go so far to stop botters and abusive solo farming to turn around and give away gold for skill points. Seriously at least think of something that may have a chance in hell of been implemented.
Well i guess you did. Trading multiple skill points for a skill wouldn't be bad. But thats way too easy to get a UAS and still encourages solo farming for exp since any gold you get would be a nice byproduct.
But semi-signed for multiple skill points = a free skill, just more than 2 per skill. Make it 5.
Thomas.knbk
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Originally Posted by Drewfense
Although I wouldn't judge someone by balthazar faction alone...it is a moderate indicator and you really already have that connection between pve and pvp. Whenever you buy/earn a skill, you unlock it, moving yourself towards UAX. Giving you faction to then spend on skills would accomplish the same goal, except it would make you falsely appear that you pvp.
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Achieving the best indicator of one's PvP experience we currently have through PvE would be a bad thing
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by rubics
Would it imbalance the game to allow people to redeem extra skill points for gold or skills? My idea is to allow people to trade 2 skill points for a skill (without having to pony up a platinum). Alternative, perhaps they could be sold for 100 gold, or used like battle commendations. As is, I find myself approaching the 100 skill point mark with my primary character without any real use for them (since I'm not interested in the skill hunter title).
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Lets say you dont need them, you would be giving people an instant supply of 10k if you sold them for 100 each.
The economy would go insain and prices would shoot up to moronic prices.
Sorry to be rude, but again this is a daft idea about putting more gold into the economy. Something we DONT need.
Plus I can assure you, there will come a point when you need those skill points. Whether it be for future campaigns, a full set of skills and elite skills for your profession, or some other use. Then youl be complaining you havent got enough.
As for using them like trade commendations.
We already have countless objects which we use like that throughout factions and elona.
I dont think we need another one to add to it. Plus what would you trade them for?
If we do anything with skill points, we need to be able to transfer them between characters or combine them accross characters as a grand totle, incase others run out.
Other then that, I dont see anything wrong with having excess skill points. I remember a time when I ran out and I had to wait till nightfall was released to get a chance to get more.
Kaida the Heartless
/signed due to recent nerf of effective farming.
hey, i like my shiny armors, okay?
hey, i like my shiny armors, okay?
RodyPA
I could see using multiple skill points alone to get skills. However, I think it's a bad idea to allow users to get money, faction or anything else for it. It would give a second money source from farming, but worse yet, it would encourage people to get quick cash rather than broadening their skill set. So, a player could get seven skills for their bar and then just start getting cash for everything else.
Or if you use the faction method, they'll set up a farm character and unlock everything for PvP.
And then complain that they never have enough skill points free.
Or if you use the faction method, they'll set up a farm character and unlock everything for PvP.
And then complain that they never have enough skill points free.
desolation0
X Balthazar Faction = 1 Skillpoint on a two-way street
(probably equate the time to achieve each)
Balthazar faction unlocked this way would not be counted toward the total Balthazar faction Earned by the account, which would be reserved to PvP battles . Meanwhile it provides a way of transferring skillpoints between two PvE characters. Also this would allow unlocking skills and other items at the Priest of Balthazar for non-PvP players, which could then be unlocked for PvE at skill trainers for non-elite skills.
The problem would be keeping people from farming lvl 1-20 new characters on easy missions (some of the easiest/quickest skillpoints) to unlock everything at the Priest of Balthazar and give skills to all their characters. This problem would also be readily apparent in the money for skillpoints.
I would be interested in any ideas similar to this, perhaps the simplest solution for me (5x more skillpoints than open Cash, but do want all skills unlocked) would be to reduce the maximum price of using the skill trainers.
(probably equate the time to achieve each)
Balthazar faction unlocked this way would not be counted toward the total Balthazar faction Earned by the account, which would be reserved to PvP battles . Meanwhile it provides a way of transferring skillpoints between two PvE characters. Also this would allow unlocking skills and other items at the Priest of Balthazar for non-PvP players, which could then be unlocked for PvE at skill trainers for non-elite skills.
The problem would be keeping people from farming lvl 1-20 new characters on easy missions (some of the easiest/quickest skillpoints) to unlock everything at the Priest of Balthazar and give skills to all their characters. This problem would also be readily apparent in the money for skillpoints.
I would be interested in any ideas similar to this, perhaps the simplest solution for me (5x more skillpoints than open Cash, but do want all skills unlocked) would be to reduce the maximum price of using the skill trainers.
nightwatchman
/signed for both
money: 100g is nothing compared to the drops you'd typically get while levelling so I don't think this would imbalance at all.
multiple-skill-points: I like the option of putting more points in instead of cash because the cash can be a real money sink. I worked it out that I'd spent over 430k on skills for my warrior
money: 100g is nothing compared to the drops you'd typically get while levelling so I don't think this would imbalance at all.
multiple-skill-points: I like the option of putting more points in instead of cash because the cash can be a real money sink. I worked it out that I'd spent over 430k on skills for my warrior
Kai Nui
If you don't want to spend skill points on skills, then don't. They're not money points.
/notsigned for cashing in for money, multiple for skills, or faction.
/notsigned for cashing in for money, multiple for skills, or faction.
vaxmor
double bonus for 55iron monks! great! not only do 55iron monks get the drops/etc but now their xs skillpoints get them moneyz too, yay!
Hell Marauder
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Originally Posted by vaxmor
double bonus for 55iron monks! great! not only do 55iron monks get the drops/etc but now their xs skillpoints get them moneyz too, yay!
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/signed