Capes..with out a guild?

How about capes for those of us without a guild? anyone? i know i would like.

What would be the point? Capes are suppose to show that you're in a Guild. To have a cape on and not belong to a Guild would seem pointless.

However, from a different perspective, one can de-equip their cape. At that point, the idea/meaning of having a cape is somewhat obscured. In the end, it does seem as though capes are just for appearance.

It's all perspective and opinion, really.

Want a cape without joining a guild....start a guild and dont add anyone. then its like not being in a guild but having a cape

That could be a nice thing to have, although in the end it's really not that expensive to set up your own private guild and design a cape for it yourself. 100 gold to start a guild and 2 platinum for a cape - that's chump change in the long run

i hate capes, no matter what they never seem to match my armor. would start my own guild/cape but then i wouldnt be able to guild chat with all my friends in my current guild. guess i could make one and be part of the alliance but people seem to shun using alliance chat like the all talk channel.

you miss the point. i LIKE being asked" why arent you in a guild?" I want to be able to show my independance and still have a stylish cape. >< i should have posted this sooner.

You can still show off your independance by being the exclusive member of a private guild though

If you're the only member of a guild, you have the sole say in how your guild interacts with other guilds, whether you remain totally independent or choose to make allegiances, and whether you want others to join your guild.

My guild has only 3 members. That's only 3 of us running around the game world with our cape design and shared attitude towards gaming. We don't make binding allegiances to other guilds or get involved in guild warfare. Independence is as much about your actions in the game as it is about whether you have a cape or not.

sigh. not my point, yet again. right now my char screams "hahahaha i dont have a guild you..guilded ppl." that would die if i made a 1 person guild

Uh oh... We have a non-comformist. You're health is about to be 0 of 4,792.

/Signed for the hell of it.

Perhaps no one cares that you don't have a guild?

I have long advocated the seperation of Capes from Guilds. As mentioned, alot of people just remove their capes, because they don't look good or match their character.

Appearance comes first, and designing the appropriate cape and look for your character is more important than association with your guild. In reality, the only people who will notice that you have a certain cape are probably going to be others wearing the same cape, most opponents or passers are not going to pay it mind. And the only person who is going to see it regularly and care about it is the person wearing it, therefore the cape should be custom to the character, not the guild or even the account.

Beyond that, with such limited cape designs these are not even acceptable on many characters, it just doesn't offer any improvement to your look or style, therefore people just remove them to enjoy their armor. In order to maximize on the satisfaction of capes, there needs to be a diversity of styles and shapes, beyond the simply "mantles" which basicly sum up all exsisting cape designs. Long Draping Capes, Body Covering Cloaks, Unique Samurai Flags or Shoulder Banners, even Long Scarfs and unique apparel pieces of a diverse nature. With all the attention to new armor designs and customization, it would be nice if everyone didn't have to share the same looking cape with thier guild, and didn't share the same type of cape with everyone in the game.

Wearing a cape without a guild, is like wearing a uniform, without a job. You look like a weirdo (and not in a good way).

I really don't think seperating guilds and capes is a good idea. The idea of a guild is to be a group of players linked together, which the cape helps to do.

If you don't like your guild cape, then oh well really. Maybe you could try convincing your guild leader to change it. Maybe have a guild contest to design the best cape.

I personally, still like my guild's cape.

That takes the cake. I really hope Anet adds this feature, so you can have fun spamming that in all chat. That is, after all, what's this game is all about. Oh wait...

Guild capes are all about showing off what guild you belong to, and having something in common in appearance with all your other guildies. No guild, no cape... it only makes sense.

If you really want to let people know that you aren't in a guild and are proud of it, forget capes. As soon as you get a cape (even without a guild) it's like saying you want to be like everyone else, and you won't stand out so much anymore.

Heh, you may think that it was it screams out to others, but I assure you it doesn't.

Well if you think of it this way, making a small guild of your own and designing the cape is the price to pay to have your own guildless cape. I mean they cant give everyone and their dog a cape without charging money and in reality you arent in a guild cause its just you.

Yep the whole issue of this goes right back to Felix's first post, its all perspective, i myself would like to see Capes become irrelevant to guilds, but i see why others dont, and the other opinion is just as easy to understand... but mines better-for me

That would completely detract from the symbolism of a cape.

Its true that not everyone uses their guild cape, but it would add more confusion to who is in a guild and who isnt.

Plus it wouldnt have an emblem on, so it would look a bit daft.

/not signed because its just pointless really.

I never use mine anyway.

/not signed

/not signed

/signed for cape for guildless people.

"I want to be unique... just like everyone else."

So essentially, you want ANet to change a fundamental part of the game, just so you can eschew that fundamental part of the game publically, and in your own words, make yourself appear better?

You know, usually I only call one of my roommates arrogant, but I think I'll apply the term here as well.

This seriously makes sense to you?

/notsigned
They didn't name the name Guild Wars for no reason, people are were meant to be in guilds in this game and do cool stuff... like killing...

alright I see your point, but you cant ignore the loss of unity in a guild if you let this happen. At the very least, maybe a smaller insignia of the guild in the corner with the rest being your own design. But its just not the same. I'll be wishing we had this, though, when my guild makes another horrendous cape design XD

still, /not signed

What unity does a cape bring a guild? People don't wear the capes because they suck, and no matter how good the cape is, it isn't going to match an entire group of players and all of their characters.

What is the point of fancy armor if it all does the same thing? Appearance obviously. Assuming that a lack of function makes self customized and new types of capes inappropriate is exactly the same as assuming that the look of your armor doesn't really matter, only the benifits it grants.

Obviously, that is false, the look is very important, which is why people are willing to pay 10 times as much in Plat and materials just to look nice, it is so important that there are dozens of new armors in every chapter, look is more important than association, which is why all these weak, lame capes are being removed just so people can enjoy their characters appearance without a crappy, unmatched, shared guild cape.

I can agree, a shared insignia should still be implemented on each cape, and perhaps even mandantory in PvP, even though it doesn't really amount to a hill of beans. Even in PvP, when it is forced on you, the colors are replaced with red or blue, and all that really shows is the symbol.

Customizable appearance is far more important, and without that option, powerful appearance options like wearing a cape become a wasted option since the most popular option is to remove such unmatching, poorly customizable, and bland cape designs.

^^What I did. But the only reason I made my 1-man guild was so Id stop getting invites. Got REALLY tired of "You want to join my guild?" "You really need a guild", ect. Have no interest in most of the things other guilds do, like Alliances, PvP, whatever. Am very happy by myself.
I see lots of people in guilds with capes on, alot more than without. Cant even tell you of one time Ive deen a guild member without a cape.

Appearance dont mean a damn thing to me, Im all about functionality. Ive said before, if it gave +20 more armor than Droks, Id wear a clown suit. Appearance is fine, but if pre collector armor was considered best looking by far, would you wear it in Kryta? Or Maguuma?
The reason theres new armor with new chapters isnt that it looks better, but that its appropriate to the area, like the asiatic influence in Canthan armors.
"Weak" and "lame" are subjective, maybe the ones you hate are liked by some(see Ideas thread for examples of what one person likes, as opposed to others who dont like it).
More important than what? "Powerful appearance option"? Since when does that a powerful appearance have any effect in-game?

The thread became pointless after this 3rd post.