Add a Ritualist Hero to Cantha to end the debate about Razah in PvE.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

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Simple way to solve the issue everyone has about Razah only being available at the end of DoA for PvE;

Add a female Ritualist Hero, which is only attainable in Cantha, in the same fashion as the Assassin Hero.

And yes it makes sense to only make it available ONLY in cantha, because its a factions profession.

Problem solved.

Then those who want one at the start of Nightfall are happy.

Those who cant be bothered or have the time to DoA are happy.

Those who want 2 ritualist are happy.

Anet is happy because then more people will buy factions to get Ritualist from the start.

And those who want the "elite" ritualist with its unique NF armor and weapons can get Razah from DoA.

This wont de-value getting Razah at all.

He really just for show anyway since you cant play through NF with him. Its to show that you've completed DoA, or to show that you have a full set of Heroes.

Everyones happy.

Issue solved! No more winging about DoA and his attainment in PvE.

Plus make sure Razah has a full set of Rit skills and full max, unique weapons.

NOTE:

Im not requesting this because I have any love affair for ritualists, I cant say that I understand whats so special about them. But I happen to agree that it is a bit daft to have the Rit hero only attainable at the end of the game.

When hes virtually useless.

I have no issues with him being attained after DoA. We should have to work for stuff in GWs and if that means working through an elite mission, then so be it. We're given too much stuff, too easily in GWs now.

But I can also appreciate that some dont like elite missions like DoA, or FoW or SF, and its not fair on those. And some people dont have the hours of time to play them.

It does alienate them.

This is my only reason as to why we need another rit hero from the start, attainable from Cantha.

NOTE2:

My view on having 2 of each Hero profession is this. Its fine as it is.

We have 2 warriors for tanking, 2 monks for healing, 2 rangers for barriage, 2 Necros for MM and SS and 2 ele's for nuking and protection.

In my view we dont need 2 Sin's, 2 Rits or 2 Mesmas.

But I know people will complain about not having 2 of each anyway, so thats also why I mentioned having 2 rits earlier.

Toutatis

Toutatis

Walking Wiki

Join Date: Nov 2006

Isle of Medication

Visitors from Aranna [VFA]

Me/E

/signed

Ritualists can still be invaluable supporting spellcasters and waiting so long for an extra support character can be an extreme aggravation in my opinion. Not to mention that adding an extra hero will add an extra layer of strategy to the game.

Perhaps eventually grow to having "elite" heros from each profession as the game expands into new chapters, alongside the more standard heros. Something for the truly hardcore to work on collecting like it's going out of fashion

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

/signed
pity there not an way of getting two of every kinda, we already have 2: R, W, E, N etc. i would love to have 2 Mesmers and 2 rits etc

Twonaiver

Twonaiver

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

S??o Paulo Brasil

R/

/signed

i so want a true rt hero, that i can change prof, are rits so overpowered to be on the end of nf ?
lol

draxynnic

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

All of my arguments have been repeated ad nauseum before, so I'll leave it at a simple /signed.

Effendi Westland

Effendi Westland

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Isle of the dead

[DVDF][LDS]

P/W

anything so I don't have to do those DoA quests x 10

/signed

Turel2

Turel2

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

/signed,/signed and /signed

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

She could be like the one that appears in the alternate Box.

(Yeah, I now she also appears in the Cinematic and is killed by Shiro, but I don't care)

It could also be a Naga, a Jade Brotherhood member, a Tengu or even a Revel.

Ferret

Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

/signed ...not all of us have time to grind through the Elite missions as well as the game, but i did spend the money to get all the chapters.
To be honest, i dont mind that the Rit Hero is only available when you get to DoA, but object to the fact you then have to get 4 gems and play for hours just to open up the area he is in.

Ferret

P.S. I LOVE the idea above of a NAGA ritualist hero...that would be so cool, just like our wonderful centaur ele

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

/signed

SpeedyKQ

SpeedyKQ

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

E/Me

/signed

I completely agree - once you get Razah it is too late to do anything with him.

I'd really like to be able to use a rit hero while playing through the NF campaign.

teenchi

teenchi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

PST

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/Mo

/supah signed

RodyPA

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Life With The Thrill Kill Kult [Kult]

R/

/signed

Since heroes don't have separate inventories, and can't have multiple armor sets, I like having multiples of each profession so I can build them differently. I can have a blood necromancer, curses necromancer, fire elementalist, water elementalist, interrupt ranger, damage/degen ranger, and so on. Admittedly, by the end of Nightfall the list starts to get crowded, but the more heroes the merrier.

gene terrodon

gene terrodon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Maryland/DC Area

Farmers Unite [FU]

W/

/signed

What's with only being able to get a Factions only profession hero in Nightfall anyway?

Rera

Rera

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

/signed

- Getting a Factions hero in the Nightfall elite area doesn't make sense to me.
- Having a hero cost disproportionately more time/effort/money doesn't make any sense to me. The only way to justify this would be if he was somehow vastly superior (ie. the original "variable-profession" hero). As it is, there's no reason why a lowly Ritualist hero would warrant this kind of work.

Thibor

Thibor

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

A Circle of Ravens

W/

/signed

Why would a factions class hero be in nightfall anyway?

Gordon Ecker

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Vancouver, BC, Canada

N/

/signed

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Is the ingame AI good enough to handle a rit that uses spirits a lot? If not that'd be a ton of extra work for the player since you'd have to control the placement of one or two extra PCs for the best dropping of spirits and you'd have to worry about doubling up on spirits if two are equipped with the same skill.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw
Is the ingame AI good enough to handle a rit that uses spirits a lot? If not that'd be a ton of extra work for the player since you'd have to control the placement of one or two extra PCs for the best dropping of spirits and you'd have to worry about doubling up on spirits if two are equipped with the same skill.
Just think about Aeson and Professor Gai.

samifly

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

add a mesmer in prophecies to balance it out, and I will agree.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by samifly
add a mesmer in prophecies to balance it out, and I will agree.
Why do we need a mesmer in prophercies and whats unbalanced with out one?

geekling

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Why do we need a mesmer in prophercies and whats unbalanced with out one?
At a guess;
Because if you own nightfall + one other chapter. Not all three chapters. It makes two heroes available to those owning factions, but only olias for those owning prophesies.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by geekling
At a guess;
Because if you own nightfall + one other chapter. Not all three chapters. It makes two heroes available to those owning factions, but only olias for those owning prophesies.
Good point, I didnt think of that.

But again with the "why a mesmer?", not that I dislike mesmas, Im about to start one, but im just curious.

geekling

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Good point, I didnt think of that.

But again with the "why a mesmer?", not that I dislike mesmas, Im about to start one, but im just curious.
There are two ranger heroes (Jin and Magrid)
There are two warrior heroes (Koss and Goran)
There are two monk heroes (Talhkora and Dunkoro)
There are two elementalist heroes (Zhed and Susuke)
There are two necromancer heroes (Master or whipers and Olias)

There is one mesmer hero (Norgu)

If you're going to add a core profession hero to proph, the logical choice is a mesmer.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by geekling
There are two ranger heroes (Jin and Magrid)
There are two warrior heroes (Koss and Goran)
There are two monk heroes (Talhkora and Dunkoro)
There are two elementalist heroes (Zhed and Susuke)
There are two necromancer heroes (Master or whipers and Olias)

There is one mesmer hero (Norgu)

If you're going to add a core profession hero to proph, the logical choice is a mesmer.
Also very true. Im not on the ball today.

King Kong

King Kong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

/signed

/signed for mesmer as well

Dreikki

Dreikki

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Kemi, Finland.

Pirates of the Searing [YoHo]

Mo/

/signed for both. People who don't own factions work hard to get Razah just so they couldn't use any skills.