Are people playing the same game as me?

When people are still asking for storage and a means to sell and group after 19 months ... it isnt a whine. Calling me a whiner? If I return fire with a fanboi comment I would get a ban GG for things being fair. Anet sends EVERYONE to sites like this to list their issues ... it would be nice if we were allowed to do it. When the same things are asked for repeatedly ... they are CORE ISSUES. 3 chapters of stuff and countless fluff items given by Anet does tend to make storage a real issue. The material storage upgrade while appreciated didn't help much since it can't even hold enough for an armor set.

Guild Wars is always the most fun when you start playing. Just yesterday I had a newbie ask me newbie questions, which I happily answered as he told me how much fun he's having so far.

Once you play through PvE and get into PvP, however, this is where many players quit the game. PvP is literally FULL of builds that a monkey can win with because they are overpowered and easy to play. Searing Flames comes to mind. There I was GvGing with a good guild with good players, and what do we face? 6 eles that steamroll us within minutes. When you do 119 damage per second + burning to an area wide range of foes, it's hard ont to win. This is just one example, and when you start pvping, you will see other builds or new builds that have a similar strategy: Spam thoughtless skills, win.

A complaint thread, complaining about complainers.

This ain't gonna get anyone anywhere. As someone said:
... the game that is.

Don't like the complaint threads? Then don't read them? That's what i do. hehe.

cheers!

there will not ever be an auction house but we will see more *traders* to bring prices down lower so the common, casual player can afford the nice stuff and have fun.

think i am kidding?

look at all the posts saying if it is not *perfect* or *near perfect* it is not going to sell.

the only people helped by an auction house are farmbots (human or otherwise) who would suddenly be given a place to auto sell their high end stuff while getting extra farming time.

do you think ANET is going to give the goldsellers a helping hand?

i dont think so

I know they won't. Anet's Jihad against the "Chinese farmer" hurts the player base and will eventually hurt their own bottom line.

Loviator you are the original mold for the casual player (no offense). Those of us that spend our time playing the game would be helped by an auction house so we could actually play instead of spam WTS. People need to get a clue ... "farmbots" are sweatshop workers not computer code. Until Anet decides to solve world hunger and poverty they will always be in every game.

no offence taken.

i just checked my hours and by most standards play too much at 1229 huors over 19 months.

i have never bought/sold an item to another person.

everything i have/am using came from my own salvage/crafters

i even have (and still like) my first set of Drok armor.

i will be giving to a friend for distribution to his guild members a bunch of gold/green i dont need or need the gold for.

i have everything i need/want so i give the rest away.

and yes i have a healthy gold balance that i never use

i play for fun and only if, as, and i dont have a book to read, a friend over, and it is time to renew my ham licence again.

I have about 5 times the hours logged. We are at opposite ends of the spectrum and our post counts reflect it. Point being ... storage and auction etc will have less of an impact on a casual gamer such as yourself than it will those that actually play the game.

This made me chuckle...

I completely agree, how is it expected for say a warrior class, to carry one of each weapon(Axe,Sword,Hammer) of any kind, Helms for those attributes, shields, armor sets, Keys, hunters ale , Identification kit, Salvage Kit etc etc.

This is one class ladies and gentlemen, think about spellcasters, they have way more to carry, offhands/wands.

Yet Anet gives us how many spaces to work with? Why have so many items with different purposes and no way to deal with them storage wise?

I think this needs to be done. A whole new storage system.

Primarily-10 Slots with the Xunlai Agent, for each character in the account.

Second-The material storage does not have a 250 limit, but perhaps 1000.

Third-Key Rings(for keys, 250 per is fine here imo)

Fourth-Tomes basically built for runes. ex. minor runes take 1 page each, major taking up 2 pages, superior runes take 3 pages. 100-200 page tomes or what have you.

Weapon Rack- Im not entirely sure how I would organize this, but I have my 2 bags filled on my warrior with various weapons+shields. I would like to see those 2 bags empty again (or perhaps a superior rune of storage. Like I said I'm not entirely sure, but it definitely sucks that I can't take 20 more items in FoW cause my storage was filled I had no place to put my excess equipment).

I may not have a high post count, but I have a brain that does basic math. Anet needs to fix this. This isn't just a complaint, it's a problem.

Just because people constantly nag for things doesnt make it a legitimate request. There are people constantly asking for the level cap to be raised. Does that make it a legitimate request too? Does it make it a "Core" issue? No.

As I said before, I dont oppose the idea of having more storage or even asking for it. But the way you're doing it as if it's your entitlement rubs me the wrong way. You yell at ANET for not listening and not caring about it's players and for what? Some silly extras such as storage?

You complain that ANET is giving us fluff? Well guess what? Extra storage is considered fluff too. Hardly a gamebreaking core issue.




I can't tell if you're joking. But if you're complaining that you dont have enough storage because you're saving up all sort of junk, is it really Anet's fault for not providing enough storage? I'm a pretty big packrat myself, but I'm also reasonable enough to know that I can't save EVERYTHING. If I'm that desperate for storage, I'll buy a character slot.

well its just like i like to say....you can do 50 things right and one thing wrong. People will remember you for that one thing you did wrong. Just like people pointing out bad things and not the good. Or great. Or better.

agreed with one small but very important quibble as to placement on the curve (bell curve).

i think we agree that you and others like you are at one extreme end of the curve.

i think (and only ANET has the logs/percentages) that i hit fairly near the middle of their curve and not a small casual opposite pole buyer segment.

i can only guess this as most of the things that the hardcore yell about are a minor bother to me or actual unnoticable.

i do miss dropping repeat firestorms on mobs but i found even quicker ways to kill them.

chapter 4 i think will give a more definite pointer as they find their footing/target buyer

we can only wait a few more months to see how it develops

LOL.

Please feel free to read my post again. I yell at Anet? Care to point out where? You win ... I don't waste my time debating 19 year olds on the Internet.

Your probably the kind of person that only has his elementalist use fire magic, then when the time comes to use water you can't deal. Why would I need to purchase an entire character slot to store my extra helms+customized weapons? I don't see any reasonable justification, just a statement without facts.

Of course you can't save "everything" so what do you suggest? I make a new whole warrior, make him have "People Know Me(2)" just like that? Make him have 1200+hours alone>? Make it have 5Million+ Experience? Just so I can have a hammer warrior? I don't have 1000+ ecto, but people somehow do. I have a problem with storage though and I have 13 character slots. I keep a weapon of each kind, my elementalist has ONE STAFF of each magic, ONE headpiece of each magic, etc. Yet I have a storage problem if we go into FoW and not gain access to the forge as the first quest in. I would really like to see your actual justification on this. All you did was state I store "junk" yet that "junk" helps me through PvE and PvP in specific area's+locations, not to mention situations. Monks don't carry shields to "look cool" they prevent damage, which is more important in a situation then having energy. You either have 5 hours playing the game, or took 5 seconds looking at the first sentence of my post and attempted to "look cool".

Sure. When losing a debate pull the age card so you'll "appear" to be wiser and older and therefore always correct. And by the way, you are so way off....

But I'll say it again. Storage and Auction House is not a huge issue. All this yelling about it being a core issue is ridiculous. It would be NICE to have them and so what if they never get put in? The rest of the game is great enough to survive without them.

Umm what? You talk about me making a statement without facts and yet you start off with that childish piece of speculation?

So you're complaining that it's ANET's fault for not providing storage for you since you have a weapon of every kind, armor of each attribute and etc etc? You want it all and that's ANET's fault for not providing enough storage?

leprekan, mind if I jump in that bandwagon with you?

Either way trailing to the original comments, there are complainer's then people with justification. I may entirely not be 100% correct. Although I've done something maybe 5% of this entire board does. Attempt to justify their reasons. If everyone did that, you probably wouldn't need half the moderators we do now. Why? Well first off it can be determined if the suggestion is valid or not. Taking out ALOT of useless posts. Next it would save alot of time, letting people understand what topics are actually being debated and not turning into flame. Like someone said ealier along the lines of it just being human nature. That's a cause you can say, but also shows how little self control that person has. If I could somehow sig this ~haven't found out how yet on a school pc~
This would be it:

The Rules of Posting:
1. Read every post
2. Think
3. Think Again
4. Type it
5. Read it
6. Think Again
7. Submit

You represent your guild in this forum, the people who recruited you and enjoy playing the game with you. Don't make them look like retards as well.

PS Ernada... it's time to make a new account

5x1229=6145
6145 hours= about 256 days
19 months is about 580 days
so you spend bout half of your day playing GW?
:O that's sick

AB ftw, so horrible but addicting.

Joking aside that gives him alot more justification. I have about 2,500hrs in about 10 months. Yea my summer was definitely having too much fun, and then not sleeping cause of this game.

Ernada you definitely haven't answered my question, what do you honestly expect? with over now 100 unique green items, and im going to approximate 20 different armors. You think that 50 slots in character storage is more then justifyable. You need to give an actual explanation.

I have shown my explanations, and a system I would suggest Anet to look at when it comes to storage. It definitely should not be harsh on the servers, or difficult to program. It's clean, simple, just like how the game should evolve. Also note simple does not mean "no detail/flavour" it means easy to follow, and have a straight forward concrete understanding. People won't look at the "tomes" and panic not knowing wtf is going on.

No. The burden of justification of keeping every single weapon and armor is on you. You dont NEED every freaking armor set and every weapon out there. YOU should be the only giving an explaination why you deserve storage to store all of that.

I need a hammer to use hammer skills, I need a sword to use sword skills, I need an axe to use axe skills. I need a hammer helm to correspond with the weapon and the skills, I need a sword helm to correspond with the weapon and sword skills, I need an axe to correspond with the weapon and axe skills.

I need gladiators for extra energy for running, and other specific builds in pvp and pve. I need dreadnoughts for extra armor for absorbing damage, and other specific builds in pvp and pve.

I need an Identification kit to Identify my gold items, I need a salvage kit to take out modifications of items I find and plan on using.

I need specific shields depending on my build in pve and pvp, whether it be enchanted, stance, random chance, or stationary bonus'.

I need keys in specific area's to open chests, so I can add a count to my titles in order to enhance the chance of myself keeping an item and salvaging the modification out.

If I do not have sufficient room for this I fail to compete in pve for multiple reasons.

First, I cannot go into what is subnamed a "pug group" and expect the same trust as I would otherwise in elite mission areas if my storage was filled with items I would like to sell for money.

Second, I am limited to the kinds of weapons I am available to use.

Third, I would be forced to purchase another character for simple items that have a purpose.

Fourth, If I cannot pick up an item that is reserved for myself in the amount of time given. I do not gain any profit from it, making that time playing the game null.

Fifth, If you cannot understand the posts I have done recently before, and this one here, seriously consider playing Snakes and Ladders for the rest of your life.

This is my final post on this topic, someone call an ambulance Ernada just got hit by a transport.

Back on topic.

Some people see it as whining, and others see it as asking or making suggestions for game improvements, even if someone else doesn't agree to that 'improvement'. Whiners, in my opinion, are those that post in a thread and ...... whine ..... and continue endless debates about trivia and name calling.

Peace~

Ok, so you have 45 storage slots per character, I'm going to leave out the 20 that are shared because they don't apply to my topic.
If you get three sets of armor (not sure why, but you could probably justify needing them for different situations) then that takes up 12-6 slots (12 body pieces, -4 you're wearing, +4-8 headpieces). Then I suppose if you really wanted to stretch, you could come up with a reason that 15 different weapons would be effective in various situations. So you're using up 30-34 slots just with weapons, armor, ID kit, Salvage, and your current area's keys. I know I like to have things lying around and sometimes find things for other professions that I might use on other characters, even characters I haven't created yet. And it can be justified that monks can use 8 slots of inventory for healing, smiting, and protection, so they would need 24 slots. So, to really play the game at your maximum potential, with weapon/shield/focus switching per the needs of the situation, you could easily use up all your storage solely on equipment. That's pretty annoying. And this is where I counter myself. I recall reading somewhere that ANet manages to keep GW free of subscription fees because their servers are ninja-haxed so as to require much, much less resources than servers for, say, WoW. So if keeping storage space the way it is is what it takes to keep GW free, then so be it.

you are free to reject it but here is the actual explanation as given long ago in an official post.

Anet has the complete breakdown on how peoply play the game by percents on an hour by hour log. what storage is used and how they play the game.

they will increase storage when those logs show an actually significant chunk of potential buyers are being squeezed but not for a small, loud, as stated by a NCSoft rep *vocal minority*

the game segment represented by those will not affect ANET/NCSoft bottom line sales so do not figure in it.

after winterday green colored collectors items doubling winterday collectable slots i am hoping for a collectables tab in storage

not expecting but hoping

Yeah really. Only the most extreme and very very small handful of players have a weapon/item/armor set for any situation. Expecting the game to adjust to your extreme needs is unreasonable.

Extra storage would be nice. But don't go screaming when you refuse to clear out some room or buy a character slot. You are not entitled to everything for free.

The storage would be nice also if it had a dye section to it, maybe some autcion system to

Dyes take up nine slots, unless you are hoarding more than 250 of each.

Dedicated mules make a nice extra storage area.

Less reading, More playing.

you are all playing the same game, just for different reasons.

therefore, one person's "concerns" are another's person's "whines" in his point-of-view.

what you need in these forums are a certain level of tolerance instead of the usual "stfu and go play wow attitude". people need to understand why certain aspects of the game may be grind for one but fun for others and be tolerant of each other's points of view. otherwise, this game will end up catering to a very very small minority of like minded consumers.

My mule is currently being taken up my inscriptions and weapons I need to sell. I barely have more than a bag on any of my characters so yeah I think more storage should be implemented. If they have to charge for it, then so be it.

Pretty much how I play too. The problem is, the game keeps moving in design and style away from those of us who just want to play the game and enjoy it and more towards needing to devote one's life to it as a chore.