Do you guys think this build is good?

Mario D X

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Children of Melandru [Hope]

W/Mo

Hi

i have played and beated all 3 GW campaigns and i wanted to know if you think this build is good:

Build:
1)Power attack
2)Endure Pain
3)Ressurect
4)Final Thrust
5)Hundred Blades (Elite Skill)
6)Jaizhenju Strike
7)Sever Artery
8)Gash

plz post your comments

thowix2

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

too many attack skills. 4 are enuff.. get some def buff lyke dolyak and get healing signet

Celain

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mario D X
Hi

i have played and beated all 3 GW campaigns and i wanted to know if you think this build is good:

Build:
1)Power attack
2)Endure Pain
3)Ressurect
4)Final Thrust
5)Hundred Blades (Elite Skill)
6)Jaizhenju Strike
7)Sever Artery
8)Gash

plz post your comments Basic sword warrior:

Sever
Gash
Final Thrust
Frenzy
Sprint
Healing Signet
Rezz of some kind
Open

Open slot can be another attack, defensive stance, party buff (charge, watch yourself, shields up, etc), or another health related power (endure pain, defy pain, victory is mine, I will survive, etc).

Other non-primary options for the open slot:

Elementalist: Shock, Conjure (flame, frost, earth, lightning)
Mesmer: Physical Resistance, Elemental Resistance, Mantra of (flame, frost, earth, lightning), epidemic
Ranger: Apply poison
Necro: plague touch, plague signet, grenths balance
monk: mending touch

Effigy

Effigy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Illinois, US

Heroes of Talia [HoT]

Mo/

There are a lot of good sword builds posted here. Just choose one and try it out.

Dragon Slash is far and away the best elite sword skill. If you don't want to take that, you could bring Charge or a utility elite from your secondary. Hundred Blades is basically just an elite version of Cyclone Axe sans damage bonus, so yeah, stay away from that one.

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

DRAAAGONNNN SLAAASSHHHH!

I'm just going to post that on every single sword build that comes up. Unless you're farming, there's no reason not to run it. Just use it properly.

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

For Great Justice > Dragon Slash > Sun&Moon > Dragon Slash > Sun&Moon > Dragon Slash ...etc.
is dead sexy.

Dutch Masterr

Dutch Masterr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Long Island, NY

Elite Knights [SWAT]

W/

take off endure pain, it can be suicide in pve alot. dragon slash is good, but i prefer quivering blade because its spammable, costing only 4 adreniline while dragon slash costs 10. as for defense use "watch yourself" with soldiers defense, its a great combo.

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

lol hb = greater than dragon slash in my books

i know people will shout "NOOB! dragon slash is the best coz loads'o' people say it is" and then i will shout "SHEEP! learn to have fun!!"

anyway^^

~A Leprechaun~

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
lol hb = greater than dragon slash in my books The problem is your books are wrong.

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

@ dgb -> SHEEP! learn to have fun!

Silk Weaver

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hong Kong

Romantically Lethal [RoLe]

R/Mo

Why isn't Dragon Slash fun? Getting owned or playing worse than you can isn't "fun", is it?

Sheep? You're a sheep for liking something because it seems cool.

I hate dragon slash, btw.

qvtkc

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mario D X
Hi

i have played and beated all 3 GW campaigns and i wanted to know if you think this build is good:

Build:
1)Power attack
2)Endure Pain
3)Ressurect
4)Final Thrust
5)Hundred Blades (Elite Skill)
6)Jaizhenju Strike
7)Sever Artery
8)Gash

plz post your comments No, but it's not horrible. I assume it's a PvE build.
Replace Power Attack with Counterattack, replace Endure Pain with Watch Yourself and get a better elite such as Dragon Slash or Quivering Blade.

And plz plz unless you are elementalist, use Rebirth, not Resurrect, as rez in PvE

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Sry if I have offended people, I am merely knocking the fact that many people in gw will believe one skill is the best possible one to use, merely because some other people said it was.

@ Silk weaver ~ I dont play hb because it seems cool, I play it because I can, its another option to use instead of following the crowd and playing "for great justice!" -> dragon slash -> the rest. Sry if some how I have offened you. And Im not saying dragon slash isnt fun but if everyone use the exact same skill set because people said it was the most effective, and probably backed it up with sums, then gw would be way, way ,way less fun for everyone.

Sry for the offense I've caused.

~A Leprechaun~

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

Dragon slash is good because while under in IAS you can come close to spamming it. It's +damage is very, very good, and in an enviornment such as pve where dps is preferred, Dragon Slash is king.

That's why it's good, not because lots of people say it is.

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

i know^^
i am just saying that if "everyone must use it coz it is best" (which im sure it is) then all warriors using a sword would be running round with the same build which would thus , it seems to me, make the game less fun.
But Wahtever

~A Leprechaun

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

@ A Leprechaun: I'll give you credits for sticking to your word. You said if people say something about Dragon Slash being good (or in the first case, saying you are wrong - regarding dragon slash) you'd tell tell them they are sheep and learn to have fun. And so when someone said you were wrong, you did indeed call them sheep and told them to have fun. So I'm happy to see that you've kept your word.

Anyway, Healing Breeze, I find is too costly for a Warrior to use. I like using a healing signet with a defense.

I don't use Dragon Slash, nor have I ever used it. I have it, but never made it on my skill bar. Maybe I'll try it and see how it goes. I'm mainly an Axe Warrior.

jesh

jesh

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA

Penguin Village

Mo/

To the OP:

No. Get rid of Power Attack, Endure Pain and Jaizhenju Strike. Then put in good skills. Hundred Blades is fine or better than Dragonslash in PvE, and if you position yourself well, you can definitely get some good mileage out of the skill.

Munanko Roha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

KoH

W/E

Too many energy skills are an issue for a warrior, I would get rid of Power Attack and Endure Pain. Anyway each build has its use, so don't mind to play the perfect one, otherwise almost anyone will tell you to use the Dragon Slash combo...PvE is there for experimenting, try whatever you like!

Effigy

Effigy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Illinois, US

Heroes of Talia [HoT]

Mo/

If HB had a 4 second recharge or +damage, then I'd consider it. However, as it stands it's just a weaker sword version of Cyclone Axe, with Elite status no less.

HB swings twice at adjacent targets every 8 seconds.

CA swings once at adjecent targets every 4 seconds, with +11-13 damage per hit.

Now try to tell me, with a straight face, that HB is worth your elite slot. The skill just sucks. Dragon Slash will allow you to basically spam +40 damage attacks, especially if combine it with TtL or FGJ. There's just no comparison between the two.

The only time I see HB as being powerful is in combination with Orders or Conjure skills. By itself, it's just nothing spectacular. If you want an AoE warrior, Triple Chop/Cyclone Axe can do it better.

Tingi

Tingi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

for a decent pve sword build just use:

16 Sword
11 Tactics
9 Str

Dragon Slash
Sever Artery
Gash
Sun and Moon Slash
IAS skill such as flail for pve
Watch Yourself
Heal Sig
Rez

there you go buddy

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
Sry if I have offended people, I am merely knocking the fact that many people in gw will believe one skill is the best possible one to use, merely because some other people said it was. Its not a belief its been proven. No other skill combo for swords has a higher dps. Dragon slash is not what makes it best. Sun is moon is what makes it the best choice. Dragon slash allows you to use sun and moon more.

Otherwise quivering blade way outdoes dragon slash on the dps front.

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

Dragon Slash also lets you use dragon slash more.

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

Dragon Slash lets you use everything more, damnit.

majeh456

majeh456

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by LightningHell
Dragon Slash lets you use everything more, damnit. QFTW

There's a really good post that Strider (uhh....) posted that really helped me with creating builds. I believe it's a sticky...

Riken Chrono

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

around the corner and up the block

Hero

this build is for place without too much enchantment shatter

Dragon Slash
Galrath Slash
Silverwing Slash
Flail
Vig Spirit
Live vicourously (SP for sure)
sprint
Rebirth/some kind of rez

jesh

jesh

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA

Penguin Village

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Effigy
If HB had a 4 second recharge or +damage, then I'd consider it. However, as it stands it's just a weaker sword version of Cyclone Axe, with Elite status no less.

HB swings twice at adjacent targets every 8 seconds.

CA swings once at adjecent targets every 4 seconds, with +11-13 damage per hit.

Now try to tell me, with a straight face, that HB is worth your elite slot. The skill just sucks. Dragon Slash will allow you to basically spam +40 damage attacks, especially if combine it with TtL or FGJ. There's just no comparison between the two.

The only time I see HB as being powerful is in combination with Orders or Conjure skills. By itself, it's just nothing spectacular. If you want an AoE warrior, Triple Chop/Cyclone Axe can do it better. Why would you not be running orders?
I *can't* tell you with a straight face that it's worth an elite slot. I also can't tell you with a straight face that Dragonslash is worth it. "For Great Justice" just sucks too bad for me to say that.
I do agree that HB really needs a buff. As it is though, it's usable. You're still hitting twice, so the potential adrenaline gain is higher than with Cyclone. It also doesn't clash with Final Thrust, like Dragonslash does.

Hundred Blades: Swing twice at target foe and adjacent foes in front of you. Each attack that hits deals +8...20 damage. 5e, 8r (half the AoE of Triple Chop, but 2x the hits with about equivalant damage)

Hundred Blades: Swing twice at target foe and adjacent foes in front of you. The first attack causes bleeding on all foes it hits. The second attack deals +1...10 if that foe is suffering from bleeding. 5e, 4r (ignores immunity to bleeding)

Dragon Slash: If Dragon Slash hits, you strike for +10...34 damage and gain 1...7 strikes of adrenaline. While you have Dragon Slash equipped, you cannot gain adrenaline from other skills. (8 gain with 16 sword)

I could say with a straight face that those are worth it, though.



Even with the added damage for a modified HB, I don't think it would see much use outside of PvE. AoE .. lower damage more vulnerable to prot spells.. much lower potential adrenaline gain.. but still worthwhile in PvE, like Triple Chop. I think that this would work well.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

If you are going for pure dps nothing is better than whirling axe.

Whirling>crit chop>whirling

Since most things on the game do not bring any block enchantments its no problem. I bring wild blow for the occasional whirling def.

Pre evisc nerf whilring axe was very close to the same dps. After the nerf whirling surpassed evisc.

Nexus Icon

Nexus Icon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Natis Ignigena

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
For Great Justice > Dragon Slash > Sun&Moon > Dragon Slash > Sun&Moon > Dragon Slash ...etc.
is dead sexy. Obviously while under the effects of an IAS stance, but I find "Standing Slash -> Galrath/Silverwing Slash -> Dragon Slash -> Standing Slash -> Galrath/Silverwing Slash -> Dragon Slash" MUCH better for DPS.

Edit: to clarify, Sun & Moon should be used to generate adrenaline when "FGJ!" isn't active, but once it is, you're better off using Standing Slash then Galrath/Silverwing Slash to generate the same amount of adrenaline that Sun & Moon does, but with the added benefit of doing the same damage as Dragon Slash per swing. So instead of "2x weak hits -> 1x +43 hit" over 2 swings, you have "3x +43 hits" over 3 swings; ie, no drop in DPS.
And yes, I know that Standing Slash is +42 at 16 sword and the others are +43, but you get the idea.

BSSuperman

BSSuperman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Prophets of Dhuum[wii]

W/

Id go HB if I had Vigourous Spirit or Signet of Strength in my Bar, then make sure you're in a big crowd and thwack away. Hell put arcane mimicry on the bar with mesmer secondary and steal Warriors Endurance from a passing friendly and you'll never have NRG life problems ever again (as long as theres a nice big crowd of baddies near by....
Get blinded, interrupted, miss(???wtf?) and the spammability of Dragon Slash goes gushing down the drain..
Anyhoo putting an attack Elite skill on a swordsman seems to lack imagination for me. Maybe that crippling strike thing for PvP but theres no decent elite sword attacks. Strength and Tactics Elites are the Mutts Nutts. Heck I need to get NF for that Steady Stance Elite. Condition OVERLOAD with 2 Drucken blow things and sever artery and gash. Or dismember with an axe. "Holy Carp smoked by Burning Psalm Books." O.o