I think it would be really neat if people could make teams in Random Arenas...oh, I see you've already implemented this feature.
Nothing is more annoying than losing a gladiator point to cheaters. If arenanet didn't have their heads up their asses all day every day, I'd also ask them to ticket those accounts. I thought using exploits was against the EULA.
In case you're blonde or just a total moron, my suggestion is to fix the RA exploit.
Let people form teams in Random Arenas
shardfenix
InfernalSuffering
....that is not cheating...it's just using your brain. You go into a district with little people and keep entering at the same time until you get into a group. I'll let you know that it is not easy to do, no fault goes to ANET here. If you would just stop complaining and come up with some original builds instead of the cookie-cutter builds everybody uses now-a-days. Now I that is what your saying but I just find no way ANET could fix this. Barring the fact that I am a moron(I wouldnt say total), I am BLONDE, and I'm not creative this isnt surprising but you only come across this 1 every 500+ matches. I've only done this once and I know its one of the last things that need to be fixed considering the whole 55 monks ss epidemic.
Amity and Truth
It's an exploit as simple as that. You're abusing the random mechanism in order to gain an unfair advantage (Teams with TS that are used to play with each other > Teams without TS that have never met before - that's also why RA Teams horribly fail once they reach TA).
Deleet
It's not intended.
Series
Yeah it is annoying but what can Anet really do about it? I can't think of a single thing that can't be bypassed or convict innocent people.
shardfenix
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....that is not cheating...it's just using your brain.
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If you would just stop complaining and come up with some original builds instead of the cookie-cutter builds everybody uses now-a-days.
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Now I that is what your saying but I just find no way ANET could fix this.
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Here's the simple solution:
Prevent people with the same guild/alliance from being on the same team.
This only stops some TA teams from entering RA, but it's at least a start.
Nilator
Lol wtf are you talking about? Random Arenas+Team=Team Arenas. GFG.
Get
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Get
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Series
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Lol wtf are you talking about? Random Arenas+Team=Team Arenas. GFG.
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Antheus
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That's because you don't think.
Here's the simple solution: Prevent people with the same guild/alliance from being on the same team. |
Series
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That's because you don't think.
Here's the simple solution: Prevent people with the same guild/alliance from being on the same team. |
*4 guildies. 3 leave the guild but are on TS with the 4th. They all enter at the same time and team up.*
Looks like your fool-proof idea isn't so fool-proof after all. At least now when they own your team you wont have PROOF they were guildies.
Nilator
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Let people form teams in Random Arenas
GG.
Let people form teams in Random Arenas
GG.
icedragon981
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Shadow of Light
There's no way to make the random generation completely foolproof (or random, for that matter). As someone else pointed out, those dedicated to getting a 'team' together in RA could do so without being in the same guild.
Fair go...
Fair go...
Sli Ander
lmao when I read the thread title.
I can't think of anything that would effectively work without having drastic side effects. So lets look at the upside: this guild/team is so pathetic they have to team up in the random arenas, because the obviously can only handle random teams. They probably got their butts kicked in Team Arenas.
Just my two cents
I can't think of anything that would effectively work without having drastic side effects. So lets look at the upside: this guild/team is so pathetic they have to team up in the random arenas, because the obviously can only handle random teams. They probably got their butts kicked in Team Arenas.
Just my two cents
Malice Black
I think Anet have bigger concerns then some lame RA matches..its sad they have to group for RA of all things but there is more pressing matters to be dealt with.
Just do what all the other RA players do..scream noob and rage quit.
Just do what all the other RA players do..scream noob and rage quit.
kang
saw this thread title and nearly exploded.....
but yeah, stuff like that happens. I dont RA often and when I do I only play a headbutt + plague touch build to tick off monks. My guild tried it once as a joke, and it ended up me and 3 randoms vs 3 of my guildies and a r6.
and I won, because some randoms in RA are actually good.
morale of this story: GVG
but yeah, stuff like that happens. I dont RA often and when I do I only play a headbutt + plague touch build to tick off monks. My guild tried it once as a joke, and it ended up me and 3 randoms vs 3 of my guildies and a r6.
and I won, because some randoms in RA are actually good.
morale of this story: GVG
C2K
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It's not intended.
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Its the same method guild and alliance teams try to get get in the same fight in Alliance Battle.
Curse You
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It's an exploit as simple as that. You're abusing the random mechanism in order to gain an unfair advantage (Teams with TS that are used to play with each other > Teams without TS that have never met before - that's also why RA Teams horribly fail once they reach TA).
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I don't really see any good way of dealing with this "exploit"
skillsbas8
Because A-net really has to worry about such a minor exploit when 5 year olds are screaming about the imbaness of searing flames.
/sarcasm.
Like this exploit really matters in the end...
/sarcasm.
Like this exploit really matters in the end...
shardfenix
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Ever heard of smurf guilds?
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Satire
gg plz learn how to read kthx
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Like this exploit really matters in the end...
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I think Anet have bigger concerns then some lame RA matches..its sad they have to group for RA of all things but there is more pressing matters to be dealt with.
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A good game gone bad by a company who doesn't care about the players makes me sad
It's a shame that GW become worse with every game update.
Kool Pajamas
Well if they added a time limit you could rejoin RA after mapping out it could reduce it. Maybe 5 minutes. Would also help with the regualr griefers.
Horuku
Why block out their names, stop being a wuss and let us see who they losers are.
Oh, and your title isn't "satire" it's "sarcasm" gg plz learn how to comprehend kthx.
Oh, and your title isn't "satire" it's "sarcasm" gg plz learn how to comprehend kthx.
Lord Mendes
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A good game gone bad by a company who doesn't care about the players makes me sad
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To all you retards posting some uber witty comments, plz read the effing OP and not just the thread title.
This is an exploit, not a serious one, but still an exploit, and all exploits need to be fixed.
Shadow of Light
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Why block out their names, stop being a wuss and let us see who they losers are.
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You can apologise to the OP for calling him a wuss now...
Curse You
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GWGuru rules prohibit the displaying of character names that aren't your own, whether in screenshots or typed.
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lishi
well i guess it's not a bad thing fix it.
but if you put this under exploit many thing will become exploit like Hall skip.
but if you put this under exploit many thing will become exploit like Hall skip.
TGgold
The Koreans have been doing this since day 1 of the game. It's nothing new. And honestly, it's really not THAT abuseable. I mean, yes, you're using the mechanics to your advantage, but it's common sense how it works. I know that I've timed up my pressing of enter with friends before, just because sometimes you dont' want TA, but you don't want RA at the same time.
And, why would not allowing people from the same guild/alliance not play with eachother be a good thing? I mean, some alliances are really big, and many guilds are. I've been in guilds where I have a group of friends in it, but I don't know 75% of the members...
And, why would not allowing people from the same guild/alliance not play with eachother be a good thing? I mean, some alliances are really big, and many guilds are. I've been in guilds where I have a group of friends in it, but I don't know 75% of the members...
Velvet Wing
I agree with the OP that this is a annoying little exploit.. shame is that it is nothing more then that, an annoying "little" exploit..
And making sure people from the same guild/alliance cannot join eachother won't work for obvious reasons (leaving and rejoining guilds (which I find plain stupid btw)). I could use this exploit to make teams with friends (who are not guidlies) but what good would that do me? None.. If I like to play another balanced team, i'd hang out at the TA..
So, with all that cleared, the OP is not a wuss, is completely right, but shouldn't worry about these petty things
(owh, and next time, choose your thread title carefully.. this might upset the admins into thinking it is a really really dumb suggestion ^^)
P.S. It would be nice if people indeed read the thread before they reply... (that goes for the whole forum
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And making sure people from the same guild/alliance cannot join eachother won't work for obvious reasons (leaving and rejoining guilds (which I find plain stupid btw)). I could use this exploit to make teams with friends (who are not guidlies) but what good would that do me? None.. If I like to play another balanced team, i'd hang out at the TA..
So, with all that cleared, the OP is not a wuss, is completely right, but shouldn't worry about these petty things
(owh, and next time, choose your thread title carefully.. this might upset the admins into thinking it is a really really dumb suggestion ^^)P.S. It would be nice if people indeed read the thread before they reply... (that goes for the whole forum
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Cid
Would this kinda exploit work in Aspenwood/AB/Jade Quarry as well?
Antheus
Ah, so this is nothing more than getting beaten in RA, and now we're back to the old "Anet is an evil corrupt company that is ripping us off. I'm not buying another GW game so they'll go bankrupt."
Grow up.
If you pvp, you will lose. As a matter of fact, exactly 50% of people who pvp in RA will lose. Is this the great new exploit that is destroying your game experience? No. Not only that, but this is an extremly old tactic. It was used in FA to bring in 2 shadowform assassins to gank the Kurzick NPCs. It was used in RA before Factions released, probably since launch.
And this was only the first time you encountered it? This is why they don't fix it. It doesn't matter. Out of thousands of matches played daily, it happens once. It's irrelevant.
But above all, I do hope that this didn't happen after you had already won 10 consecutive matches.
And I mentioned smurf guilds since the proposed simple solution is so easily countered, that it doesn't solve anything.
Grow up.
If you pvp, you will lose. As a matter of fact, exactly 50% of people who pvp in RA will lose. Is this the great new exploit that is destroying your game experience? No. Not only that, but this is an extremly old tactic. It was used in FA to bring in 2 shadowform assassins to gank the Kurzick NPCs. It was used in RA before Factions released, probably since launch.
And this was only the first time you encountered it? This is why they don't fix it. It doesn't matter. Out of thousands of matches played daily, it happens once. It's irrelevant.
But above all, I do hope that this didn't happen after you had already won 10 consecutive matches.
And I mentioned smurf guilds since the proposed simple solution is so easily countered, that it doesn't solve anything.
darkdawn
The only purpose i find to RA is to unlock TA and to test new build.
If you're not happy then just rage quit like most ppl do.
If you're not happy then just rage quit like most ppl do.
Nickhimself
A simple fix would be to pool everyone in all American districts waiting to enter a battle for RA / AB (in each zone, obviously) rather than split them up into seperate regions.
Likewise for International, and all foreign zones.
That way, (take USA for example) if you're waiting for an RA battle to start, it will search EVERYONE in the USA districts for partners, rather than only in that district.
OR, just prohibit the addition of districts in Random Arenas and Alliance Battles. Just increase the map capacity to 10,000 players on each side so when you're looking for a group, it's much easier. -- Also, in order for that to work well, they'd need to add some sort of LFG Search function with a large menu displaying all classes / notation of the players build.
Likewise for International, and all foreign zones.
That way, (take USA for example) if you're waiting for an RA battle to start, it will search EVERYONE in the USA districts for partners, rather than only in that district.
OR, just prohibit the addition of districts in Random Arenas and Alliance Battles. Just increase the map capacity to 10,000 players on each side so when you're looking for a group, it's much easier. -- Also, in order for that to work well, they'd need to add some sort of LFG Search function with a large menu displaying all classes / notation of the players build.
Kai Nui
RA isn't good for anything anyway but testing builds or playing a monk character to hold the entire team up. If you don't like sync playing people, then sorry to say but go to team arenas and actually make a good team.
shifting shadows
It's true that these players have an unfair advantage. However, I doubt very much that the contents of this thread have suggested anything that will solve the problem. It's mainly borderline flames/rants. With the exception of a few that is.
I would also hope that this didn't happen after you won 10 consecutive matches.
I would also hope that this didn't happen after you won 10 consecutive matches.
Sir Mad
lol @ Shifting's last sentence.
But yes, I agree, insulting posters or a.net is not the best way to defend an idea. I agree with the idea of fixing this, but how could it be done? I really can't see any way to fix that.
But yes, I agree, insulting posters or a.net is not the best way to defend an idea. I agree with the idea of fixing this, but how could it be done? I really can't see any way to fix that.
Not A Fifty Five
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RA isn't good for anything anyway but testing builds or playing a monk character to hold the entire team up. If you don't like sync playing people, then sorry to say but go to team arenas and actually make a good team.
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A)A monk,flasher,shock warrior,assassin farming faction
B)Testing a build
C)A Newb learning to pvp
D)A nOOb
This would only affect a and d. A good category a person would woop ass anywyas, and honestly who cares about d
Sir Mad
E) Someone who, once in a while, wanna have fun in the chaos of RA.
Is it bad?
Anyway the topic is not RA but this issue the OP pointed.
Is it bad?
Anyway the topic is not RA but this issue the OP pointed.
Omnidragon42
It's a problem, yes, but not a major one. There's no real way to fix it anyway, and besides, ANET probably doesn't care to much about RA.
If you're serious about getting glad points, get them in TA.
If you're serious about getting glad points, get them in TA.
LicensedLuny
I'm sorry to the OP and those agreeing with him that such things happen. It's a shame, and I'm sure, quite irritating. Sadly, I think it's true that they'll never really be able to fix such things ... the whole "build a better mousetrap ..." argument. It's just in some peoples' natures to work the system. Always will be.
But, thank you ....
Thanks to the OP for a title that cracked me up and thanks to the, well let's just say, "fascinating" people that responded only to his/her thread title. I haven't laughed so hard reading a forum in a long time.
Cheers,
Luny
But, thank you ....
Thanks to the OP for a title that cracked me up and thanks to the, well let's just say, "fascinating" people that responded only to his/her thread title. I haven't laughed so hard reading a forum in a long time.
Cheers,
Luny
killer_sss
Your problem here with wanting it to be fixed is it just plain and simply cannot. you can slow it down impede it but you will never stop it. Its like the never ending battle with hackers or Anets never ending battle with farmers. You can do all you want to slow but it will not stop as long as their is a want for it.
that being said i think there is 2 pathetic groups here you and them.
them for doing that
and you for bitching about it.
if this was happening everymatch i could see the system needs some serious work. but its not its barely happening. if you don't like it i sujjest you go play a team game that way no one is better off than anyone else. easy way to solve your problem.
ENOUGH SAID!
that being said i think there is 2 pathetic groups here you and them.
them for doing that
and you for bitching about it.
if this was happening everymatch i could see the system needs some serious work. but its not its barely happening. if you don't like it i sujjest you go play a team game that way no one is better off than anyone else. easy way to solve your problem.
ENOUGH SAID!