Bring Dye Remover Back!

Lord Paca

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

NY

got a PI guild, i'm in!

E/D

Bring the dye remover back! Sure, it will still make the armor gray (default color).. But what about the items that weren't gray will never be, such as my backpack and bags, you can buy new bags and belt pouches..... but not a new backpack. Please Anet, turn vial of dye (gray) into dye remover again.

RSGashapon

RSGashapon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Sol 3

R/

I think they should just make gray another color that can be purchased in the dye trader and found as a random drop. They can even put dye remover in there as well. It's never made sense, although I'm sure someone here will explain it to me, why dye remover/gray dye has to be available separately by the merchants.

Sometimes it's a hassle to buy the stuff, since in certain locations the merchant(s) aren't even close to the dye trader(s). I say put them all together, make them all equally available and call it good. "Economy" be damned, we don't need another gold sink in this game, there are enough already. Dye shouldn't have to be one of them!

The Muffen Man

The Muffen Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Druery Lane

W/

/signed I dont think Anet though it fully through.
They probably thought no need for dye remover now that all armor is base grey, but what about all the weapons and shields one can dye. Now if I want to revert them back to the original colour I cant

gamecube187

gamecube187

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

I don't see the point of bringing back dye remover. We already have grey, which is now the default color of armor, and ArenaNet has said that they made it so we can still get all the colors we got before the new dye system. Just experiment with dyes and you will find the color you want. I'm pretty sure it's the same with weapons too...

And why are you talking about bags and backpacks? Can you even dye bags and backpacks?

Unless someone can clarify or tell me something I don't know,
/not signed

But, it is really anoying how the trader has a "grey dye" which has dye in the name, yet, its not at the "dye trader" which sells dyes...
/signed to the dye traders having all the dyes, instead of the merchants randomly having one

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by gamecube187
And why are you talking about bags and backpacks? Can you even dye bags and backpacks?

Unless someone can clarify or tell me something I don't know,
/not signed
Yes, you can dye Bags and Backpacks. I unfortunately died mine, expecting the dye preview window to show up, but alas, now my bag is died and AFAIK there is no way to make it the default color again

FelixCarter

FelixCarter

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

I had this same problem. After sending an email out to A.Net, turns out Brown is the original color of Backpacks, Bags, etc (Thanks A.Net for telling me this, btw).

Anyhoo, just color the thing brown. You'll have your bag back to normal.

Also, "Vial of Dye (Gray)" should be sold at Dye Traders. And Merchants should still have Dye Remover.

Syndren

Syndren

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

United Union [GWU]

/signed
It doesn't hurt to have the extra 'dye' (dye remover) does it?

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Um, Grey is not the default colour of armour. The only reason you may think this is becuse now you can only dye your armour, and armour traders all sell their armour dyed grey.
If you look very closely at some sets of armour, you can still see the real default colour poking through.

Defaults are:
  • Yellow for Warrior
  • Yellow/Tan for Ranger
  • White for Monk
  • Red for Necromancer
  • Purple for Elementalist
  • Green for Mesmer
  • Blue for Assassin
  • Orange for Ritualist
  • Yellow for Paragon
  • Blue for Dervish

Now, I really wish I could make my armour default colour without having to buy the right colour of dye.

The Muffen Man

The Muffen Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Druery Lane

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by gamecube187
I don't see the point of bringing back dye remover. We already have grey, which is now the default color of armor, and ArenaNet has said that they made it so we can still get all the colors we got before the new dye system. Just experiment with dyes and you will find the color you want. I'm pretty sure it's the same with weapons too...

And why are you talking about bags and backpacks? Can you even dye bags and backpacks?

Unless someone can clarify or tell me something I don't know,
/not signed

But, it is really anoying how the trader has a "grey dye" which has dye in the name, yet, its not at the "dye trader" which sells dyes...
/signed to the dye traders having all the dyes, instead of the merchants randomly having one
No you can not redye your weapons and shields back to there original colours, you go try it and see before you go flapping your beak!

Carth`

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
Um, Grey is not the default colour of armour. The only reason you may think this is becuse now you can only dye your armour, and armour traders all sell their armour dyed grey.
Hence the default colour of armour is now grey.

Nickhimself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Your face

True Gods Of War [True]

W/Mo

Easy solution:

Move Grey Dye to the Dye Merchant, and add Dye Remover to the Merchant.

Problem solved.

Carth`

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickhimself
Easy solution:

Move Grey Dye to the Dye Merchant, and add Dye Remover to the Merchant.

Problem solved.
Well for a start the prices at the dye trader fluctuate based on drops, and grey dye never drops. It is also really stupid to duplicate it like that, have one or the other, but not two things that do the same thing but are bought in different places. I think that's an ugly solution, but the easiest way usually is.

The fact is all armour starts out grey now, so grey dye does the exact same thing dye remover would have done. Anything you dye can be changed back to its original colour using another dye. Armour starts out grey, bags start out brown.

RSGashapon

RSGashapon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Sol 3

R/

Using your logic, how do I dye my Storm Bow back to it's original color? I applied gray dye to it, which brings out the pebbled texture on the skin. But what if someday I want it to look like every other Storm Bow out there again? Which dye do I pick then, hm? Don't tell me to just use the opposite dye color, because they don't dye exactly the same way as Chaos Axes do. It'd have to be trial and error, which wastes my gold. If you want to try it, then go right ahead, but I'm not going to bother finding out which color replicates the original blue hue of a undyed Storm Bow.

Just bring dye remover back and add gray to the trader and as a drop. It's a simple solution, that was also have the side benefit of more choices (lighter shades) for dying armor and items. It would be a combination of the old system with the new, a win-win scenario in my book.

Dragonious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Hot Springs, AR

Dei Victorae [dV]

R/W

How could it waste THAT much gold if you have preview...

RSGashapon

RSGashapon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Sol 3

R/

Hey, when you usually have less than 5k to share among six characters, you try not to waste it on frivolous things that increase your "bling factor". I don't farm, I don't wheel-and-deal in towns, I rarely get good drops. I just play the game.

Pinghan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/Me

/signed
I hate the gray color

gamecube187

gamecube187

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Series
Yes, you can dye Bags and Backpacks. I unfortunately died mine, expecting the dye preview window to show up, but alas, now my bag is died and AFAIK there is no way to make it the default color again
Oh, I understand now. I think I'm going to try dyeing my bags...but then again I'm not sure if I can get them back to normal so I'm sort of hesitating...

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Muffen Man
No you can not redye your weapons and shields back to there original colours, you go try it and see before you go flapping your beak!
Sorry, no need to be so harsh. I don't really dye my weapons much, so I wasn't sure.

Now that I know about these two things,
/signed to having a dye remover back or a dye that recolors everything back to its original color.

Rayne Fern

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

California

Great Indigo Laughing Dragon

R/Mo

How interesting.

Before I created a thread about dye remover, I did a search for dye remover, and nothing came back.

Then someone got upset about it and closed the thread.

So how am I supposed to know if there is already a thread on a subject when the search function fails to show any results?

Anyway, I want dye remover back.

There are colors that can only be achieved with the use of dye remover.

Andro

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

/signed
Simply because why not? :-)

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Currently armor come dyed in grey, but they still have the 'default' color under that grey.

Just look and some spots in the Dervish Elonian armor, that have still the blue color even dyed.

They should fix the armor textures so they are with 'dye-friendly' colors, like grey and sepia (Grey for metalic and sepia for fabric and leathers).

Once the textures are like that, the current dying system will work better.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Currently armor come dyed in grey, but they still have the 'default' color under that grey.

Just look and some spots in the Dervish Elonian armor, that have still the blue color even dyed.

They should fix the armor textures so they are with 'dye-friendly' colors, like grey and sepia (Grey for metalic and sepia for fabric and leathers).

Once the textures are like that, the current dying system will work better.
I think thats something they are working on with the updates at the moment... Theres also talk that they are updating the engine to DX10

ValaOfTheFens

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

/signed

I wanted to dye my Assassin's armor gray because I hoped it would make the flowery pattern. I'm a sad ninja. The Gray dye did nothing except make the armor look bland. I thought about mixing it with Silver to give it a matte but metallic look but that's impossible due to Gray being the new dye remover I don't want to waste my money experimenting.

Zeddicus Tam

Zeddicus Tam

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

USA

Fading Twilight [dusk]

Mo/Me

A dye remover would be great to remove dye from weapons, shields, etc. I don't see the point of a dye remover on armor though. Everything defaults to gray now.

Weapons, shields, etc., on the other hand, do not default to gray. Once you dye a weapon that has a fairly unique color (Jade Swords for example), the color is lost forever, unless there's some clever trick I'm unaware of.

Rayne Fern

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

California

Great Indigo Laughing Dragon

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeddicus Tam
I don't see the point of a dye remover on armor though.
There are colors that are only obtainable with the use of dye remover.

Remover washes out the dye, IE: 2 Purple + 1 Blue + 1 Dye Remover makes a faded bluish lavender on leather, its very pretty.

White does not achieve the same effect, white makes it very opaque and very bright.

Aeon_Xin

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Me

/unsigned in current form

Keep everything the way it is, but add a Dye Thinner to merchants, since that's the valid use everyone keeps ragging on about.

Dye was changed for a few reasons, *Edit Dye could have been changed for these reasons..
Dye scams from selling mixed dyes.
Some dye mixes just weren't logical outcomes.
Dye Remover as it was never worked quite right(universally), when used for the purpose it's named after.

I'm not sure but this makes sense too: Dye now is simpler, you can't make as many colors, and that takes up less storage and bandwidth over all.

I'm sure Anet had other reasons too, as it does for all sorts of things.(Something that entirely too many users that post here don't take into account)

Zedd Kun

Zedd Kun

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

Rt/

/signed

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BBBD

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

well weerm this will be a stupid question but on my ranger i dyed blue with dye remover and cant get the same colour to happen :\ does any 1 know what the subsitute is mix for dye remover is? (not gray)