tormented weapon question

Bob912

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im wondering if it is possible to change the inscription on a tormented weapon or if it has to stay 15^50.
any help would be appreciated

icedragon981

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Join Date: May 2006

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Though I'm sure noone has gotten a torment weapon yet. (25 of each gem 0.0) I'm 99% sure that, like all other "inscribable" weapons, focuses, etc. that the inscription can be changed.

DeathandtheHealing

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob912
im wondering if it is possible to change the inscription on a tormented weapon or if it has to stay 15^50.
any help would be appreciated question is why would u want to change it? 15^50 is great.

but i'm sure they are just like normal gold items so u can put a +5e on the weapons.

but i'm sure no one will ever get one for some time.....
25 each gem
100 total
wow
who the hell in anet thought up of this one?

Star Alfur

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It's just a thought - maybe these are the "fissure armour" equivalent of weapons.

I'm anxious to see what they look like.

[riVen]

[riVen]

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Collector's weapons do not allow present inscriptions to be changed. The Torment weapons guy is nothing more than a collector (he collects 25 of each gemstone), and therefore, I suspect that the inherent inscriptions are permanent. All unconfirmed ofcourse.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

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actually he collects an armbrace of truth(or something like that), you have to give some collector deep in the city of Tor'c Qua the 100 gems... insane in the membrane, got no brain..lol it's just insane..

Savio

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Quote:
Originally Posted by [riVen]
Collector's weapons do not allow present inscriptions to be changed. Collector's weapons don't have inscriptions, they have inherent modifiers (aside from a handful that have open inscription slots). Tormented weapons all have inscriptions or open inscription slots.

dansamy

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I'm crying over the tormented weapons because I want a shield very much. However, it will cost 25 of each gem. 100 total. At the current going rate: at least 2.5 million in titan stones, ~2.5 million for 50 of the next most common stones (stygian and torment), and 625k in margonite stones. That means that one Torment item will cost at least 5.5million, if not closer to 10 million. (Titan gemstones will truly be the determining factor in the gold equivalent price as they currently sell for a sum of 100k + xx ectos. You can get them as cheaply as 100k and as expensive 100k + 50 ecto.)

Former Ruling

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One guy was in DoA WTS'ing the str req Tormented Shield. I am skeptical he had it because he said he wouldnt show in trade til the person put up their end of the trade.

Etrik

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Quote:
Originally Posted by [riVen]
Collector's weapons do not allow present inscriptions to be changed. The Torment weapons guy is nothing more than a collector (he collects 25 of each gemstone), and therefore, I suspect that the inherent inscriptions are permanent. All unconfirmed ofcourse.
There is no such thing as inherent inscriptions. There are inherent mods and then there are inscriptions. Don't mix & match.

And NF collector items can have a different inscription applied to them. Also, the ones in the GoA from the collector have "Inscription: Strength and Honor" in their description > you can change it.

Quote: Originally Posted by Savio
Collector's weapons don't have inscriptions, they have inherent modifiers (aside from a handful that have open inscription slots). Tormented weapons all have inscriptions or open inscription slots. Read above. NF ones *do* have inscriptions.

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Originally Posted by dansamy
At the current going rate: at least 2.5 million in titan stones Rarely will you find Titan Gemstones under 100+xx ecto. Usually at about 100+20e (that's almost 300k each). How is 300 x 25 = 2500? I always thought 3x25=75. So try 'at least 10 mil each'.

I can't wait til the first person gets an ambrace of truth and sells it on eBay for about $1000. See the ingame economy go

Savio

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Etrik
And NF collector items can have a different inscription applied to them.

Read above. NF ones *do* have inscriptions. Only on Istan are there a large number of inscribable items, which have nonmax attributes - so nobody cares about them. There are 5-6 max inscribable items you can get from collectors, which consist of Suntouched Scythes, Suntouched Spears, and Daedal Shields. In other words, a handful. And none of them have inscriptions already, only empty inscription slots.

Etrik

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Try the ones in Turai's Procession, I think it was. Or Jahai Bluffs. There are 2 pretty close to one another in the ruins of what seems to be a small township. They have inscriptions, I've gotten an off-hand for my ele and replaced the inscription with one I actually wanted.

Savio

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I tried both areas; neither of them offer elemental focii, let alone anything inscribable aside from a Spear and a Scythe. So, how about you post pics of these collectors and items instead?

Etrik

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Poti. Do go check for yourself. I've already done that. (That was the one I got the fire wand from, I remember. The one that offers an elemental focus is Talmehinu)

Maxiemonster

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Etrik, those are unchangable mods, not inscriptions.

Etrik

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One of em was an inscription. I'm sure of it. Regardless, the GoA collector's items specifically state 'Inscription: This and That'. So it's replaceable.

Maria The Princess

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some of them have inscriptions and some dont.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Etrik
Rarely will you find Titan Gemstones under 100+xx ecto. Usually at about 100+20e (that's almost 300k each). How is 300 x 25 = 2500? I always thought 3x25=75. So try 'at least 10 mil each'. I believe I said that was at an absolute minimum, as I have seen some titan gemstones going for ~100k. Most sellers are charging 100k to 100k + 20 ectos. Also, as more people successfully complete various areas of DoA, the price for gemstones will drop. I still expect these weapons will still cost more than FoW armor. To put some perspective on the dollar cost, a quick scan of eBay reveals that 1 million in-game gold is ~$50. If we go with the current higher selling price for titan gems, we need 7.5 million for titan gems, 2.5 million for stygian and torment and 625k for margonite. Total 11 million in-game gold, which translates to a real world cost of $550.

As much as I want a pink shield, there's no way I am going to grind for months to get one. I'm also not insane enough to spend over 10x the cost of the game to get one item. The 100 gem requirement is completely insane for this item. If they had a value of ~10k (like ecto or rubies, etc), then the torment items would be a more reasonable goal. As it is now, I just collect and hold on to my gems in the insane hope that the prices will come down and I can eventually get what I want. Screw Razah. He isn't pink.

Drop of Fear

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coffer of whispers can give tormented weapons as reward.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

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Don't tell me that.

If 100 gems = guaranteed vambrace = guaranteed torment item of your choosing and coffer = 1/1000 chance of a random torment item, which one would you choose? Considering that 999 times, you'll get something retarded from a coffer, I want a guaranteed item. I'll keep saving, thanks.

Drop of Fear

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in my guild we opened 4 coffers. got a minipet, 2 titan gemstones, axe and a scroll just about now. i dont call it a waste of gems. i sold my gems these days with such high prices, but i will keep them now to open a coffer myself

dansamy

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Yes, but you guys got an axe, for which one of you may very well have a warrior that could use it. I specifically want a shield for one reason and one reason only: my monk. It matches her armor and will replace the Lotus Shield she currently carries.

Rera

Rera

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Join Date: Jul 2006

@Drop:
Which minipet, and what kind of axe? Those are the only potentially worthwhile rewards. Getting titan gemstones back isn't a significant gain - you basically traded a margonite+stygian+torment for a titan gem. The scroll is just a slap to the face.

The point is, little Maya wants a specific torment shield, out of all of the hundreds (thousands?) of possible drops from a coffer. It simply isn't cost/time-effective to play odds when there's only one item you actually want.

I'm interested in the torment shields also, but I want to see actual screenshots of them worn by monks before I invest any significant effort into getting one. Given how some of the other Nightfall shield skins look, and given how some of those skins, uh, 'interact' with the monk's arm, it may end up being a waste of effort.

Soma Cruz

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for me if thats shield is not animated then it is a waste of time... NF skins are even worst than faction, such as the War sunspear armors it is no different from a kurzick armor with out the Scale part...

shield model clipping are just so bad on Primeval Armor for war, i hate ppl got paid and not doing their job.

also if you did pay attation to the torment sword LOGO it looks no different from a Brute Sword in black dye... so i hate the idea of making hard to get things look like rubbish, coz after all it would be a waste of time.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

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The shield is animated. I have appropriate confirmation from a reliable source.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rera
The point is, little Maya wants a specific torment shield, out of all of the hundreds (thousands?) of possible drops from a coffer. It simply isn't cost/time-effective to play odds when there's only one item you actually want.

I'm interested in the torment shields also, but I want to see actual screenshots of them worn by monks before I invest any significant effort into getting one. Given how some of the other Nightfall shield skins look, and given how some of those skins, uh, 'interact' with the monk's arm, it may end up being a waste of effort. Yes, little Maya wants one specific item, and I realize I'm behaving quite badly over it. (Especially considering my IRL age. )

Etrik

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drop of Fear
coffer of whispers can give tormented weapons as reward.
Now I usually don't do this. But this isn't your average claim. Screenie please.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drop of Fear
in my guild we opened 4 coffers. got a minipet, 2 titan gemstones, axe and a scroll just about now. i dont call it a waste of gems. i sold my gems these days with such high prices, but i will keep them now to open a coffer myself What mini/axe did you get? Those are the 2 burning questions.

Quote: Originally Posted by dansamy
Yes, but you guys got an axe, for which one of you may very well have a warrior that could use it. I specifically want a shield for one reason and one reason only: my monk. It matches her armor and will replace the Lotus Shield she currently carries. He didn't say he got a *Torment* Axe. He said he got an axe.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dansamy
The shield is animated. I have appropriate confirmation from a reliable source.

Yes, little Maya wants one specific item, and I realize I'm behaving quite badly over it. (Especially considering my IRL age. ) As above. Do spill the beans. Or stop posting stuff like this till you decide to spill the beans.

Scutilla

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Etrik
What mini/axe did you get? Those are the 2 burning questions. I haven't seen any confirmed Torment weapons, but there's a thread with multiple pics of the new minipet:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10088619

Etrik

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I know about the pics of the mini pet. Drop just didn't say what mini pet it was. Tho I imagine it was the Mallyx one, it'd be stupid to get a Bone Dragon or something from the coffer. I'm too tired.. again -.-"

Drop of Fear

Drop of Fear

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tormented axe, same as the one u are supposed to buy for 25 gems of each kind, and mallyx green minipet

Etrik

Etrik

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Pic of the Tormented Axe? And is this the first non-asian Mallyx mini?

dansamy

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I'd love to see a full-size shot of the axe as well.

Unfortunately, I only have "verbal" confirmation that the tormented shield has an animation "glimmer" to it, similar to the way Margonites shimmer.

Anarkii

Anarkii

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The Mallyx minipet looks pretty unimpressive to me, though it might sell for a fortune. Would love to see a pic of the tormented axe as well

Morgoth the dark

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i would like to see that axe too

Cygnus_Zero

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You will never see pix of something that doesnt exist.

Morgoth the dark

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cygnus_Zero
You will never see pix of something that doesnt exist. well they do, it's a question of a time when they pop out :P

Etrik

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They do? Picture please. Don't have one? They don't until proven otherwise. Simple, really.

Cygnus_Zero

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That's what I'm saying. People talking about owning it means nothing to anyone here without visual proof.

Morgoth the dark

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Etrik
They do? Picture please. Don't have one? They don't until proven otherwise. Simple, really. go to the collector and you see pictures. If collector has them, they exist, dont they?

lol ppl use ur brains

Cygnus_Zero

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N/Me

We know they technically exist. What we're saying is that people here are talking abou owning them, but have no pictures. What I'm wondering is, does anyone that's playing the game have one of these weapons yet? It's an incredible amount of work to earn 100 gems. And if you wanted to buy them, it would cost around 10 mil. And that wouldnt work anyway since there are none for sale.

Etrik

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark
go to the collector and you see pictures. If collector has them, they exist, dont they?

lol ppl use ur brains You don't see pictures of them being wielded. You see icons. And you can't tell jack about what they look like from an icon.