donate to anet

Addone_Abaddon

Addone_Abaddon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Jersey, Channel Islands

Perfection Is Everything [PiE]

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I had just read the thread about monthly fees and everything.. and I thought. Well, people probably do do this, I dunno if there's one on the guild wars site, but a donate to anet button ingame might be a good suggestion, rather than paying a monthly fee. Or on the guild wars website if there isn't one already.

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

I'm not sure what you mean, but there isn't a monthly fee for playing Guild Wars.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Arenanet is doing just fine financially. The only reason people are starting these monthly fee threads is to try to get Arenanet to add more content and for some reason think monthly fees will accomplish that. Donations are a generally unsuccessful way to get money for a business.

Also, it helps to have a thread title that's more than just "Hello".

duncan99

duncan99

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Norway, Oslo

Glob of Ectospasm

buying the game is like donating, so if u rly like to donate buy the games a couple of times for your friends or something

blastm

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Just go and buy additional characters slots; skills unlocks, etc.

Gorebrex

Gorebrex

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Alot of people ask for things(Austrailian server, new language-specific districs, ect, so how about this? A button in the in-game store that will let you donate $1-5(US) for the purchase of a new server(or more bandwidth), to help ease lag/disconnects. Its not solely a monetary problem, Im sure ANet has/can get plenty, but the money raised would be for a specific purpose. A LOT of money could be raised for bandwith/server purpchases this way(2 million sales, say 500,000 actually play(gift purchaes, ect), that $500,000 right there at $1 each, a VERY small amount to give, and can be done at any time, as opposed to waiting for new chapter to come out, or spending time looking for an older one.

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

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Gorebrex, I don't think the lag/disconnects/err7 is a problem of money at A.Net's side.

milan

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

BONE

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Insane idea. Sorry. I don't donate extra payments to my telephone company and I sure as hell don't pay extra to the people who I buy hot dogs from just because they 'might' need it.

All this talk of Anet needing money, I've no idea where it's coming from

Keep in mind also that any 'donations' would be taxable as income, why not just send the shareholders a cheque directly?

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
Arenanet is doing just fine financially. The only reason people are starting these monthly fee threads is to try to get Arenanet to add more content and for some reason think monthly fees will accomplish that.
Savio, you are smarter than me but if they (the fees) won't what do you think will?

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

More money will not make ANet add something to the game that would cause more problems than it would solve.

When you suggest improvements? to GW, try explaining how you would prevent the problems. For example:

LFG channel - how would you keep traders out of it

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

If Anet had a monthly fee, they would be required to produce more content more steadily. Popping out an expansion every six months wouldn't work, they would have to have regular updates and consistently stream new content to the gamers. Anet is based on the free to play system, and any sort of donations would not get us results comparable to if GW was P2P.

BahamutKaiser

BahamutKaiser

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Heightened state of mind.

P/W

People are assuming that it takes a monthly maintenance to upkeep a game online, it does require monthly capitol, but good investors know how to create capitol and provide service without charging monthly fees.

If GW expands to new areas, or adds new features, they will charge for it in the chapter that they come in, or turn revenue from the sales of their chapters in new places, this is not the first game to provide online gaming service without a monthly fee, Blizzard has been doing it since the internet became popular, and Anet is a detached group from Blizzard, they know what they are doing.

If you want to donate something, or in some way support the game more, you can always buy extra copies of the game and buy extra character slots and PvP packs, Anet will gain plenty of capitol from sales, and provides almost nothing additional in terms of bandwidth and service in the sales of character slots and PvP unlocks.

"Donate" all you want, but if your trying to bribe Anet into including some new feature, I am pretty certain they will choose to make their money selling to their overall fanbase rather than a private interest.

brokenmonkey

brokenmonkey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

CA

[UC] Uber Crue

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Lol Think of it.. Holidays are coming...


"Ok, I have 200$ that I'm going to give away to help someone. Here you go Kids In wheel chairs.. hmm oh wait Anet!!! You can have it=D

jk, but Yea, as people said, help them financially by buying Character Slots, PvP unlocks, and games.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

just buy some more char slot.

i assure you the few kbyte needed for storing your information wont ruin arenanet

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

just buy some more char slot.

i assure you the few kbyte needed for storing your information wont ruin arenanet

achilles ankle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

USA

The Primevil Spartans

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Why on earth would u just want to give money to a very succesful top video game making company...i mean..think about what u are saying and think about what you are asking ppl to do. i..really just dont understand it lol do you have like a huge conscience or are just really into giving b/c christmas is coming ...idk but i would never do this. its like donating part of your paycheck to bill gates b/c you think he may need it.

oh and ye i agree giving them more money will not make improvements.....it will just renforce the idea that they will keep making 1 more game. i mean how many more do you think will come, its already streched enough i think.

achilles ankle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

USA

The Primevil Spartans

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-double post-

Gorebrex

Gorebrex

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

It seems some people may have thought that I was saying in my previous post that ANet "needs the money". I have NO idea how that happened, as I was saying nothing of the kind. Im sure weve all had/heard/know of people who have had lag/disconnects, and all I was suggesting in my earlier post is that if we want it so bad, to prove it to ANet by saying, "Hell, we want better servers/more bandwidth enough that we'll pay for it." Sure, they can afford it, but is it on the "To do list"? Probably not. Maybe theyd say, "If they want it THAT bad, why not? They put up the money, lets do it." And I DAMN sure didnt mean a monthly fee! I wont touch those kind of games, beyond a free trial period). I said before that ANet has plenty of money, so I dont know where alot of this comes from, but what I m suggesting ISNT A MONTHLY FEE, its basically putting your money where your mouth is. If we want better/new servers enough that we're willing to pay for them ourselves, thatll get their attention, Id think.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Maybe we could hold a benefit concert for them.

We are the Guild Wars, we are the devs
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So lets start playing
Theres a nerf we're making
We're saving Rurik's life
its true we'll make a better Chapter
Just you and me

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

I you really want to "donate" money to them, go out and buy 10 copies of Nightfall. Don't play them, just buy them because the money from the sales goes to ArenaNet.

Cloud Lionheart

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antheus
Maybe we could hold a benefit concert for them.

We are the Guild Wars, we are the devs
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So lets start playing
Theres a nerf we're making
We're saving Rurik's life
its true we'll make a better Chapter
Just you and me
omg that made me laugh out loud

brokenmonkey

brokenmonkey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

CA

[UC] Uber Crue

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
I you really want to "donate" money to them, go out and buy 10 copies of Nightfall. Don't play them, just buy them because the money from the sales goes to ArenaNet.
No!! Don't do that, buy them from the online store, so they money=all anets

-.-

-.-

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Easy way to donate to Anet, buy from their Official Store in game.

_Anubis_

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

R/

Donation?
Would a donation change the issue of the Support? Neither think so.
Your mails are not read, You get stupid notification back and subject closes in 24hrs.
If I'd like to donate, I would definitely do it for charity organisation.
Or maybe ANET has changed from the business company into the church?

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Just do what people have already suggested, and do a deuce donation. Buy 10 copies, and donate the 10 copies to some charity or something.

Quote:
Originally Posted by _Anubis_
Donation?
Would a donation change the issue of the Support? Neither think so.
Your mails are not read, You get stupid notification back and subject closes in 24hrs.
If I'd like to donate, I would definitely do it for charity organisation.
Or maybe ANET has changed from the business company into the church?
Neither think so? I'm not as think as you stupid I am^^.

Sorry... just on more, you're not your.

OK^^. Anet do their best to reply to e-mails. If you're on this list, then you should stop sending them e-mails:

People who write them SPAM
People who do not read the guidelines for sending a support ticket, and give incomplete information
People who send fanmail
People who suggest something that has been mentioned dozens of times
People who think that Anet only read support tickets as their means of game improvement
People who came from WoW (that's a give in, you don't need to take this seriously if you actually did come from WoW... everyone else who reads this, take this seriously please :P)

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Which monthly fee thread was this?

As much as I love the work Anet does, Im not willing to donate money to them to be honest.

The simple reason being that I dont like it when companies or individuals put "donate funds" one their software.

The game is free (aside from buying) and I love that aspect about it.

If donations were introduced and Anet thought people were willing to pay them, I think it might cause a downward slope to monthly fees.

Gorebrex

Gorebrex

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

The donations wouldnt be forced, as a montly fee would be, the would be mostly(my opinion) to show ANet we REALLY want the them to have better servers/bandwidth, so we CAN get higher connection quality/less disconnects/more storage. The previous is MY idea, nothing at all to do with previous mentioned monthly fees and I sure as hell am not saying that Anet "needs the money"(again). As to buying multiple copies, and not playing them, thatd actually be a waste of your money, as it does you no good to have things you wont use. Itd be like a guy with no legs buying himself a bike, pretty usesless. If people dont like the idea of actually giving ANet 1-2 dollars specifically for server/bandwidth improvements, showing them we want something done bad enough that we'll pool our money to pay for it(we put up the money, ANet buys better equipment/bandwidth)then stop complaining about lag/disconnects/lack of storage, as you apparently dont really care that much.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

I person with no legs can buy a bike and ride it if he wanted to. There are leg attatchments and you can get bikes specially made for a person in that predicament.

If the donations were specifically used to increase server/bandwidth improvements, then people will be even more expectant to have top running servers for the 1 or 2 dollars that they donate - quite possibly, once, ever. Guaruntee that you'll see someone who will make a big complaint about donating money (without specifying how much they donated) and going off the rockets because they are still getting err7ed.

Some of us do care about lag/disconnects/lack of storage. Donating them money is not the right way. Out of goodwill? fFne, do that on your own.

Thalion Galad

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

hi all

Donate to UNICEF ... they realy need it....

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

ArenaNet is a business, not a charity!

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

How can Anet, a publicly held company, accept donations like this?

It makes no sense.

sir lockt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Netherlands

Lightning Strikes Twice

Mo/

I donate every 6 months about $50 dollar to anet...$60 if I want something special. They deliver me a good product for that...so its worth it and they get filled bankaccounts... or at least I hope for them

Gorebrex

Gorebrex

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Ok thats it, I give up. Cant seem to get my point through, so Im done with this thread.

_Anubis_

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terra Xin
Just do what people have already suggested, and do a deuce donation. Buy 10 copies, and donate the 10 copies to some charity or something.



Neither think so? I'm not as think as you stupid I am^^.

Sorry... just on more, you're not your.

OK^^. Anet do their best to reply to e-mails. If you're on this list, then you should stop sending them e-mails:

People who write them SPAM
People who do not read the guidelines for sending a support ticket, and give incomplete information
People who send fanmail
People who suggest something that has been mentioned dozens of times
People who think that Anet only read support tickets as their means of game improvement
People who came from WoW (that's a give in, you don't need to take this seriously if you actually did come from WoW... everyone else who reads this, take this seriously please :P)
Well, neither was I on the list You described.
And I contained all the details. Also get brave ticket.
No real-response at all. Just an automatic one, saying, that they thank me for the message, appreciate it and bla bla bla. And that I should contact one of the forums.

SO I DID.

This is what I'm taking about.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorebrex
Ok thats it, I give up. Cant seem to get my point through, so Im done with this thread.
So, you want to put a "donate" button on GW's home page, where people will donate $1-$10.

To help with bandwidth and such.

I'd suggest you look into data center hosting, business expenses and salaries.

Then look at sites and organizations supported by donations.

You might notice that several zeroes will be missing in the process. The costs we're talking here are millions, and players donate thousands. Unfortunately, whatever your background for suggestion was, it lacks real world perspective on how money works on such scale. If you're running a donation supported website of a $49.99 per year host, and you actually make more money than that, then it may seem like this is the way to go. Think again.

If they raised $50,000 over the course of one year (and that's an insanely optimistic ammount), that wouldn't cover even the replacement costs for hardware.

They have donation box. The online store. It's the core of how business works. It's the whole concept behind capitalism, the western world, the world as a whole for that matter.

Data centers don't charge by byte transferred, so have a few dimes over in piggy bank won't buy you a thing. Contracts are signed for long periods of time with given resource limits. Developers need to be paid on monthly basis. Your money wouldn't even pay a month's salary for an intern. And yes, they work for "free". Any full-time developer costs the company upwards of $100k a year (salary, benefits, insurance, taxes, equipment, renting the building they work in, travel expenses, ...).

aron searle

aron searle

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

I like my local tesco store, hmmm i like this idea, ill donate money to tesco.

/retarded

Clord

Clord

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Finland

Victory Via Valour

Anet made online store for extra income and it is game's "donation system".

c_ras

c_ras

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Eternal Deliverance

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Antheus
Maybe we could hold a benefit concert for them.

We are the Guild Wars, we are the devs
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So lets start playing
Theres a nerf we're making
We're saving Rurik's life
its true we'll make a better Chapter
Just you and me
Wow!! Purely WOW!!! What a great idea!!! but only if we can get a celebrity cast. I was thinking:

- Michael "Please Don't Touch Me Again" Jackson
- Stevie "Why do I always look up and shake my head" Wonder
- Paul "Where did Garfunkel Go" Simon
- Kenny "No I'm not the Detroit Tigers pitcher" Rogers
- Billy "I like to occasionaly tour with Elton John and I always have a FUN time" Joel
- Willie "somebody buy me a new guitar" Nelson
- Huey "I successfully sued Ray Parker Jr. over similarities between his Ghostbuster Theme song and my I Want a New Drug song" Lewis
- Cindy "I'm going to make a 2007 comeback....really I am" Lauper
- Diana "Where is the Duct Tape" Ross

Anything less is unacceptable!!

Pull out the lighters. The money will be flowing in in no time!

Kelsey Cain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Have I wandered in to some otherworld reality here? or is this a comedy thread?

This has to be the most bizarre suggestion I have ever heard.

Bobbbo Ob

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Anet makes something like 20 million dollars atleast with every new game they release. They don't need any extra money. But most of this money goes to NCsoft and they whip Anet's backs into another really hard devellopment schedule. Has anyone ever thought that the company that Owns Anet wont let Anet put extra content into the older campaigns because the Buisness executives don't think that it will yield any more money, or won't encourage anyone new to buy the old campaigns at all?

Donations is a stupid idea, because Anet and Ncsoft have more than enough money to fund more content for the games, they just dont want to because they are happy with the amount of money they are making right now.

I see people also talking of Bandwith problems, If There is too many people on a server and Anet sees 'profit' is in order, they will put up a new server and more bandwith.