Bathazar's Factions, please remove cap

greenlantern

greenlantern

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

OA

Yet again I have everything unlocked and I can't recieve any more factions for kills in PVP. I can't spend the Factions because there is nothing to spend it on, so my Factions earned have completly stoped. I have 365,000 of 395,000 spent and have 30,000 filled up with all items, heros, and skills unlocked and that number should be alot higher, but I seem to unock everything just to have all skill/items availible.
Thanks,
GL
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lmao, you have everything unlocked?

I have way over double that and dont got everything unlocked.

you either dont have all 3 chapters or done everything in PvE, and if you did then dont think why pvp matters so much to you.
The reason why the factions are low is because I unlock stuff quick and can't earn any factions. Yes, I have all 3 chapters and i'm rank 8. I want to continue to gain factions even though i'm maxed unlocked.

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u want more faction cap, earn it
THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT, I can't earn any more factions because I have unlocked everything!

Nickhimself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Your face

True Gods Of War [True]

W/Mo

We should be able to turn 10,000 faction into 1k. I mean, it's not much but it's 100% more than what we can do now.

The Silver Star

The Silver Star

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK, Scotland

Il Guild Name Il

W/

Well think of yourself as lucky cap was 10k and now can be increased, if you want a higher cap go get some new pvp titles.

Franco Power

Franco Power

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

UK

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I have 365,000 of 395,000
lmao, you have everything unlocked?

I have way over double that and dont got everything unlocked.

you either dont have all 3 chapters or done everything in PvE, and if you did then dont think why pvp matters so much to you.


But yeah, I think faction cap is useless too so /signed

skretth

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Australia

its there to stop people hoarding faction till the next chapter and unlocking it all in 5 minutes.

u want more faction cap, earn it

/notsigned

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Just let people convert faction into gold. You won't be able to hoard it for next chapter, but you'll be able to get something useful out of it. Just make the conversion rate low, like 10k --> 1 plat or 5k --> 1 plat at most, so it would only appeal to people who have nothing better to do with it.

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u want more faction cap, earn it
Yeah, I think I'm gonna go and play HA until my face is blue, so I can get 5000 fame for my next rank and faction cap increase.

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

Nothing is wrong with unlocking everything in 5 minutes. Unlocks are not a reward that should be "earned".

/signed.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Remove the cap, yes but that's not enough.

You need to be able to unlock Fissure armor and weapon skins with Balt faction. And exchange Balt faction for shards. Both of which have been suggested millions of times on this board.

Thomas.knbk

Thomas.knbk

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

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Originally Posted by Legendary Ultimatum
lmao, you have everything unlocked?

I have way over double that and dont got everything unlocked.

you either dont have all 3 chapters or done everything in PvE, and if you did then dont think why pvp matters so much to you.


But yeah, I think faction cap is useless too so /signed
Or he started in PvE and moved to PvP later on, like a lot of people including myself.

Franco Power

Franco Power

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

UK

W/

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Originally Posted by Alleji
Just let people convert faction into gold. You won't be able to hoard it for next chapter, but you'll be able to get something useful out of it. Just make the conversion rate low, like 10k --> 1 plat or 5k --> 1 plat at most, so it would only appeal to people who have nothing better to do with it.

Yeah, I think I'm gonna go and play HA until my face is blue, so I can get 5000 fame for my next rank and faction cap increase.


NO WAY BALTHAZAR FACTION = 1K OR 5K, THAT IS .... im not even going on the whole red engine thing,

less thing I want is a bunch of people from TOA in TA or HA.

mmm wouldnt mind in gvg thou, easy wins.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

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Originally Posted by Navaros
Remove the cap, yes but that's not enough.

You need to be able to unlock Fissure armor and weapon skins with Balt faction. And exchange Balt faction for shards. Both of which have been suggested millions of times on this board.
That's fine, as long as you give the deer emote track to anybody who has a title, and a phoenix emote to anybody who has a max title, even a PvE title.

Not very fair, is it? Giving a Phoenix Emote to somebody with Explorer of Cantha would take away the meaning of the emote, wouldn't it?

Well, Fissure Armor is the symbol of high accomplishment in PvE. That is ALL it is. A symbol. Just like emotes are a symbol of high accomplishment in PvP. I hope they never take emotes away from PvP exclusivity, but in exchange, it is only fair the serious PvE players have their exclusive armor.

What we need for Balthazar Faction is a repeatable reward. Something like Faction for Gold... a reward that can be recieved over and over again unlimited amount of times. What if Fissure Armor is made available? That will solve everything, right? No it won't. People will still unlock everything within time. Then they will need more things, to the point where there IS nothing more. Giving more unlockables wont solve anything except for delaying the problem. The only solution is a repeatable reward so that Balthazar Faction never loses it's use.

greenlantern

greenlantern

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

OA

Maybe "cap" was the wrong word. The real problem is that I can't get any more factions because I have unlocked everything. For the people who still don't understand... I don't get any more Balthazar's factions! If I play for a week staight in HA, GVG, and TA/RA the 365,000 spent of 395,000 earn will not go up or down. I just want the "earn" to be corrected, so I can earn them. That number acually should be almost double than it is, but I like to unlock everything to save time when playing with a specific builds in PVP. Hope that clear this up.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Some of us still dont get what you're on about though. I have well over 1,000,000 faction and I still haven't unlocked everything. If you're saying that you've bought the PvP editions, it will shed some light as to why you have unlocked everything with such a low amount of faction.

TheBaron82

TheBaron82

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

I dont mind the cap factions, but give me something to do with the factions. I have over 1 mil and have everything unlocked my cap stayed at 35k for a long time now.

greenlantern

greenlantern

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

OA

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Originally Posted by Terra Xin
Some of us still dont get what you're on about though. I have well over 1,000,000 faction and I still haven't unlocked everything. If you're saying that you've bought the PvP editions, it will shed some light as to why you have unlocked everything with such a low amount of faction.
If the question is how I unlock stuff, it is because I have 1 account and 11 slots. 10 for each profession in which I try to pvp with (I enjoy PVE also and dislike the rerolling process although it is 200% better now) or if the circumstance calls for it, I have the 11th slot for pvp use. My Necro went and capped all the elites for the title and so that I can have elites available in PVP. When each chapter (Factions & NightFall) came out I bought all the skills for there specific profession using platinum and skill points thus unlocking the pvp side. I didn't buy a skill pack.

I really think I was screwed on this, why should I be penalized for being UAX? It didn't really matter before to much, but now you get benefits for having "spent factions" and to put it bluntly makes me look very inexperienced because my factions are low.

The reason I like to be UAX should be obvious. I don't like to be in the situation where I need a skill and don't have the factions to unlock it (This happens so much).

I hope this is a better explanation of what is going on.

Rakeman

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

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Originally Posted by greenlantern
If the question is how I unlock stuff, it is because I have 1 account and 11 slots. 10 for each profession in which I try to pvp with (I enjoy PVE also and dislike the rerolling process although it is 200% better now) or if the circumstance calls for it, I have the 11th slot for pvp use. My Necro went and capped all the elites for the title and so that I can have elites available in PVP. When each chapter (Factions & NightFall) came out I bought all the skills for there specific profession using platinum and skill points thus unlocking the pvp side. I didn't buy a skill pack.

I really think I was screwed on this, why should I be penalized for being UAX? It didn't really matter before to much, but now you get benefits for having "spent factions" and to put it bluntly makes me look very inexperienced because my factions are low.

The reason I like to be UAX should be obvious. I don't like to be in the situation where I need a skill and don't have the factions to unlock it (This happens so much).

I hope this is a better explanation of what is going on.
That's not a penalty... Balthazar Faction was made so that people could unlock everything without playing PvE. You unlocked everything WHILE playing PvE. They only put Balthazar Faction into the game to help PvP players unlock stuff... so it's not a penalty... UAX is the reward and you have it. Think about it like this... what if you learned a skill from a skill trader then did the skill quest? You aren't being penalized for knowing the skill... it's just that you already have the reward.

shardfenix

shardfenix

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]

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Originally Posted by greenlantern
I can't earn any more factions because I have unlocked everything!
The plural of faction (points) is faction.
Cry me a river. There's a cap for a reason. They don't want you getting UAX on a preview weekend.
There should be a faction sink IMO. 1000 faction for 100g would do nicely for me.

jummeth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

London

Diary of a Madman [SiKK]

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Originally Posted by shardfenix
The plural of faction (points) is faction.
Cry me a river. There's a cap for a reason. They don't want you getting UAX on a preview weekend.
There should be a faction sink IMO. 1000 faction for 100g would do nicely for me.
You missed the point, OP doesn't want faction cap removed or raised, they just wanted to be able to earn more faction so it shows up that they have earned it.

Ie. they are at max limit, but any more balth they earn is just counted as pre spent, or even un-spent. That way their total balth faction gained still increases, and you still get your nice little golden +10s ^^


Although this is such a minor thing, UAX is the important thing. However UAX these days have become less of a measure with the intro of PvP packs.

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

I think what people are saying is, is to go earn a higher faction cap if you want it to count that you've gotten more faction. I know what you're trying to say, but who cares? Get better PVP titles for more space if you want to up that title.

skretth

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Australia

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Originally Posted by greenlantern
THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT, I can't earn any more factions because I have unlocked everything!
u wanna earn more faction, get more fame, get some glad points, go get some championship points.

dont wanna get them, then stop complaining

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Another thread on basically the same problem
See mine, created just a few days ago and well received:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10087003

I think you take the wrong approach to this problem.

The increasing faction cap with titles gained was a great idea, it could be an awesome rewarding tool, but... the problem is there's nothing expensive to spend that huge amounts of faction on! Solution : unlockable rewards! more ways to spend faction!

The most important reason why faction cap exists and won't be removed is the fact people would amass millions of spendable faction and get UAX of every new chapter at the day of release.

greenlantern

greenlantern

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

OA

*PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD*

I give up, no matter how hard I try, I can't seem to get my point across. All I get are people that post non-helpful, one liner flamebait on all threads that I start/commented on. I will stick to Buy/sell forums. Thanks.

Last Attempt-> This isn't another "I want something else to spend factions on" or "Make it so we can unlock FOW armor" thread. All I want is the "Total Factions earned" (I don't care about the "Total Factions Spent number")to rise even though someone UAX. Everyone should be able to see the 100 Factions + 100 factions for flawless above my head instead of just the useless XP points.

BTW Just last weekend alone I should of made nearly 100k factions (Based on others I played with who actually recieved factions) from GVG. I have spent countless hours in Tombs/HA(Rank 8), GVG(Top 100 guilds), TA/RA(lvl 1 glad almost 2), and AB(friend of luxon) yet I show the factions that is less than a bambi and a faction container that reflects that. I dont see that as fair.

Symeon

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

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Originally Posted by greenlantern
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As you wish.