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Sven788

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

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12 Dec 2006 at 13:23 - 1

I suggest to make a Dutch/Belgium district, because there are so many other districts for almost every country that plays much. Since many Dutch and Belgium people play guildwars it would be good to give there own district.

Sometimes I see people complaining about Dutchies that talk Dutch to eachother in an English district, but we don't have our own district.

Please Arenanet give us our own district.

And there isn't a problem if you make it Dutch/Belgium because we are neighboors we understand eachother, but let the french Belgium go to french district.

squan

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Rotterdam (The Netherlands)

Rotterdam Pride

Mo/

12 Dec 2006 at 13:31 - 2

i agree. since there are more dutch players then like spanish and italian. and they got their own district.

btw

IT AINT MUCH IF IT AINT DUTCH
WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED

Sven788

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

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W/

12 Dec 2006 at 13:49 - 3

I heard that Gaile Grey said before that there isn't coming a Dutch/Belgium district because we can speak English/German/French, but we want to talk our own language to not only others and that will a English man/women never understand.

exiled mat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

The netherlands > friesland > balk

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

E/Me

12 Dec 2006 at 13:59 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sven788

I suggest to make a Dutch/Belgium district, because there are so many other districts for almost every country that plays much. Since many Dutch and Belgium people play guildwars it would be good to give there own district.

Sometimes I see people complaining about Dutchies that talk Dutch to eachother in an English district, but we don't have our own district.

Please Arenanet give us our own district.

And there isn't a problem if you make it Dutch/Belgium because we are neighboors we understand eachother, but let the french Belgium go to french district.

Since i'm dutch it would be very cool

BUT, somewhere else there was stated that only "selectable languages" are being usefull for districts

Now.... i don't mind to translate guildwars in dutch

/signed

Franco Power

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

UK

W/

12 Dec 2006 at 14:39 - 5

lol most districts except Kainang, Lions and Kamadan are already empty and you guys want more districts

go figure >.>

/not signed

Emik

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Belgium

[FaRM] Farm For The Win

N/

12 Dec 2006 at 14:43 - 6

I'm Belgian and i'm against it.

/not signed

Sven788

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

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W/

12 Dec 2006 at 14:54 - 7

But in Lions, Kaineng, Kamadan are the people. We talk there in our own district.

bouvrie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/N

12 Dec 2006 at 15:12 - 8

Perhaps a similar suggestion would be to implement a "benelux" district. Geographically, Benelux is defined as Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg. Those countries combined in terms of languages offer Dutch, German and French.

Sven788

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Netherlands

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12 Dec 2006 at 16:11 - 9

Yes bouvrie good idea Benelux is good because the 3 countries work much together. And we speak the same languages

DvM

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Vlaardingen, The Netherlands

Survivor Squad[SS]

12 Dec 2006 at 18:14 - 10

im not against it nor am I for it, I dont mind so much, im from the netherlands, but my english is good enough, I speak french, I can manage my german, heck, if they had latin I would be able to read a bit of it... but aleats now my addicting is good for my english grade (as long as I dont RA)

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

12 Dec 2006 at 18:34 - 11

I don't really care :P I'm Dutch, but I like talking English, maybe even more then talking Dutch. I'd probably move to the Dutch districts if they'd be introduced, but it'd probably be unpopulated, like the Spanish and Italian servers, making them useless anyway.

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

12 Dec 2006 at 18:59 - 12

/signed

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

12 Dec 2006 at 19:09 - 13

I don't care for a dutch district. Mainly because people from the Netherlands (which I am also) tend to use worse dutch grammar and spelling than most english people do. I mean, I can see it now: E hoest metje? Hebbie nog die kneus gziejn die mending met un zwaard gebruikte? W8 ff, kannie praten, moe gaan, latorz. I avoid talking dutch in GW even. And bout the guy saying the game should be translated too, well, that'll bring. Zilveren Vleugel Slag, Aardbeving, Verblindende Flits (lawl), Schaamte, Onthoofding, Meteorietenregen. Ik bedoel, kom op, dat wil je toch niet zien?

Velvet Wing

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

In your cupboard *nomming* your cookies

Blade of Souls

P/W

12 Dec 2006 at 19:11 - 14

/signed
I think that it would be a usefull addition to the young players that require some extra help troughout the game. Helping them in a language they understand fully makes it easier for them..
I myself coulnd't care if I talk dutch, english, french, german or italian.. I like them all, and understand most of them well enough

Sven788

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Die or Leave Plz

W/

12 Dec 2006 at 20:09 - 15

Yes but I'm more thinking why french and spanish and no dutch?
Because I can say more Dutchies play then frenchies

Franco Power

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

UK

W/

12 Dec 2006 at 20:18 - 16

Because Anet probably thinks dutch is german like they think portugal is spain

lol

Stranger The Ranger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Those Netherlands

Dynasty Warriors [DW]

R/

12 Dec 2006 at 21:24 - 17

No, just no...
English districs are already empty enough, due German/French ppl refusing/not being able to talk English...
Dutch districts would only make it worse, making the English districts emptier and emptier, and the Dutch translation would be horrible lol...

/not signed

Aera

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm]

E/

12 Dec 2006 at 21:30 - 18

< Dutch

But I don't really care. English is piss easy.

Saphatorael

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

12 Dec 2006 at 21:40 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Njaiguni Blaze

I don't care for a dutch district. Mainly because people from the Netherlands (which I am also) tend to use worse dutch grammar and spelling than most english people do. I mean, I can see it now: E hoest metje? Hebbie nog die kneus gziejn die mending met un zwaard gebruikte? W8 ff, kannie praten, moe gaan, latorz. I avoid talking dutch in GW even. And bout the guy saying the game should be translated too, well, that'll bring. Zilveren Vleugel Slag, Aardbeving, Verblindende Flits (lawl), Schaamte, Onthoofding, Meteorietenregen. Ik bedoel, kom op, dat wil je toch niet zien?

QFT.

I'm Belgian, and I'd hate a Dutch/Flemish district.
Even though our official language (in Flanders and the Netherlands, at the least) is the same, it doesn't mean we use the same words. Flemish differs ALOT from area to area... I live in Ghent now (on campus), which is about 50 kilometres/30 miles away from my real home, and some people really have troubles understanding me and vice versa, just because I use completely different words.

So there'd just be loads of discussion about the dialects and the good ol' Flanders vs. Netherlands 'war'.

Not looking forward to that.

And eh, those translations would suck donkey behind.
"Ik ben Omkering Van Het Geluk aan het gebruiken!" (Reversal of Fortune)
"Vloek laten verdwijnen" (Remove Hex)
"Jij bent helemaal alleen!" (YAA)
"Ze Staan In De Fik!" (<-ok, this one is funny

)
"Schaduwgevangenis" (wtf. Shadow Prison.)
"Ga Voor De Ogen" (GFTE)

And I wonder how they'd translate Rampage As One... "Door Het Lint Gaan Alsof Je Eén Bent Met Je Gedomesticeerd Dier"?

Bad idea.

EDIT: want an example of (West-)Flemish vs. the Official Dutch?

Flemish:
Yow, kzin dus David, en ik komn ut Kortemark, ne kljin boeregat int midn va West-Vloandrn. Der is ier verzeekrs noois etwuk te doen, dus kzin vree content dak de laatste tiet geweun in Gent weun.

Dutch:
Hoi, ik ben dus David, en ik kom uit Kortemark, een klein verlaten oord, in het midden van West-Vlaanderen. Er is hier vrijwel nooit iets te doen, dus ben ik enorm blij dat ik de laatste tijd in Gent verblijf.

English:
Hello, I'm David, and I'm from Kortemark, a small town in the middle of West-Flanders (it's a province). There's hardly anything to do in here, so I'm very happy that I reside in Ghent lately.

Flemish people tend to type in the manner as I've done here.

Franco Power

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

UK

W/

12 Dec 2006 at 21:50 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stranger The Ranger

No, just no...
English districs are already empty enough, due German/French ppl refusing/not being able to talk English...
Dutch districts would only make it worse, making the English districts emptier and emptier, and the Dutch translation would be horrible lol...

/not signed

Now hold on just a minut, you being a bit selfish and hypocrit in there,

You saying English districts are already empty enough due german french refusing not being able to talk english.

And who made english GOD to make germans/french people have to speak it?

Why dont you go speak german and french to them instead ?

< Im not german or french, Im portuguese and I can speak fluently Spanish, Portuguese and English.

My french,german and italian isnt that bad either

.

So think a bit before you make statements like "english districts are empty because german/french people cant be bothered to speak english", Why should they ?

If you cant be bothered to speak french/german.

just my 2 cents.

exiled mat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

The netherlands > friesland > balk

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

E/Me

12 Dec 2006 at 22:24 - 21

It would be a total funny situation to see a dutch guildwars

It's true, you'll learn a LOT of the english language just by playing english games

*looks at higher english grades compared to non gaming people

*
But knowing with what your dealing can be handy ...
For example, i've been trading with a person which could barely speak understandable english, and (because i liked the honestness of this player) i've added him to my friendslist. A few day's later i discovered that he had a dutch name, so we've been doing a lot of strange communication for nothing

but .... that brings an other idea: Language tags or something like that

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

13 Dec 2006 at 01:28 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendary Ultimatum

Now hold on just a minut, you being a bit selfish and hypocrit in there,

You saying English districts are already empty enough due german french refusing not being able to talk english.

And who made english GOD to make germans/french people have to speak it?

Why dont you go speak german and french to them instead ?

< Im not german or french, Im portuguese and I can speak fluently Spanish, Portuguese and English.

My french,german and italian isnt that bad either

.

So think a bit before you make statements like "english districts are empty because german/french people cant be bothered to speak english", Why should they ?

If you cant be bothered to speak french/german.

just my 2 cents.

I don't see how (s)he's being selfish and hypocrit by saying that. Firstly, it's just true, secondly, we dutch and belgian (also, right?) people get english, AND german, and french at school. Heck, we even get spanish in some classes. Anyways, I too think especially french people can show some more interest in different languages. They simply reject the english language, while it's considered a world language. I remember from my trips to paris and other parts of France that hardly anyone (close to nobody) talks or would want to talk english. If you go to museums, or any other touristic sights/events NOTHING is displayed/told in english. Same with the service, which you can call from other countries and with prices in stores and such, everything is french and french ONLY. If you visit the Netherlands on the other hand, everything is told/talked/marked/displayed/priced in dutch, german, french and english. Overall the english vocalbulary and writing is a bit better than german and french, but we DO put effort/interest in learning and talking these languages.
So I don't mind that post and don't find it too be hypocrit or selfish in anyway.

A dutchy

Sven788

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Die or Leave Plz

W/

13 Dec 2006 at 06:29 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Njaiguni Blaze

I don't see how (s)he's being selfish and hypocrit by saying that. Firstly, it's just true, secondly, we dutch and belgian (also, right?) people get english, AND german, and french at school. Heck, we even get spanish in some classes. Anyways, I too think especially french people can show some more interest in different languages. They simply reject the english language, while it's considered a world language. I remember from my trips to paris and other parts of France that hardly anyone (close to nobody) talks or would want to talk english. If you go to museums, or any other touristic sights/events NOTHING is displayed/told in english. Same with the service, which you can call from other countries and with prices in stores and such, everything is french and french ONLY. If you visit the Netherlands on the other hand, everything is told/talked/marked/displayed/priced in dutch, german, french and english. Overall the english vocalbulary and writing is a bit better than german and french, but we DO put effort/interest in learning and talking these languages.
So I don't mind that post and don't find it too be hypocrit or selfish in anyway.

A dutchy

Frenchies and Germans are mainly selfish in languages, but England thinks that too all 3 are just selfish @$#! just learn eachothers languages. Netherlands can only speak good English, French, German because we live from trading.
And I don't mean with district that everything has to be translated, I mean that we just have a district for our own.
After all you can better have a United Europe like USA.

Cold Hearted Zero

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Gotass Community [gA]

13 Dec 2006 at 07:48 - 24

what do u want next? a own district for every country in europe?? its good like it is now if u ask me. if i dont remember wrong there is something in GW called whisper, so if u want to talk dutch to each other whisper

in make a party or the ppl u want to talk to. easy peasy

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

13 Dec 2006 at 08:09 - 25

Well, what Exiled Mat said was a good idea actually. Some language tag, like when you click on someone you can get some personal basic info (country, lvl, sex, age, campaigns). I've seen it in a free online game which is around atm, won't mention the name, but I think it's a good idea.

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

13 Dec 2006 at 11:23 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sven788

After all you can better have a United Europe like USA.

Hell no, I voted against the European constitution. Let them solve problems in they're own country first and then progress to other countries in (the) Europe(an Union) maybe. I don't see why we have to be united or something, isn't needed and will only bring trouble to the economy in my opinion. Why do we need a European Union anyway? Bit offtopic, but I think it's not good to have an emerged or united Europe in any way. We are merged enough, think passports not needed in most countries, easy border crossing. Besides, a whole lot of our taxmoney goes to "Europe", which is cowcrap, as we've seen with France and another country (think it was Germany), because we paid a whole lot (too much) in comparison to them.

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

13 Dec 2006 at 12:24 - 27

I do understand that there are some people that would like a Dutch district, but I don't need one.
Even in an all Dutch group, I prefer to speak (write) English.
The only times I use Dutch is when I know that someone has Dutch as native language and he/she has problems understanding the English language.

Most Dutch (don't know about Belgium and Luxemburg) people get English lessons during at least 2 to 4 years at school.
That should be enough to read the language and have a little talk.
And most of the time, that's all you need to play the game.
Furtermore, when you read more, you understand more in time.
I don't know much French, but since I've teamed up with a couple of French people several times, I do understand some more. I can't write it, but I can read up to 80% in game. And I'm bad at languages (getting a decent grade was a challenge).

Quote:

I too think especially french people can show some more interest in different languages.

I've met several French people online that wrote decent English.
Some even Spanish and Italian.
I wonder how many British people playing Guild Wars know more than their native language (since the whole world except France uses English, why bother learning an other language).

And since Saphatorael mentioned Flemish, I'd like to add Frisian, Gronings, Limburgs and Zeeuws (I only know the proper English translation for 'Fries', the rest don't have any, I think).

And for the English districts, please add Scouse and Scots (people with Liverpool and Glasgow dialect understand each other, the rest of the British people probably not)

Elena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Belgium

13 Dec 2006 at 14:00 - 28

bork bork bork district and i'l sign

Sven788

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

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13 Dec 2006 at 14:17 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Hearted Zero

what do u want next? a own district for every country in europe?? its good like it is now if u ask me. if i dont remember wrong there is something in GW called whisper, so if u want to talk dutch to each other whisper

in make a party or the ppl u want to talk to. easy peasy

You are probarly from a country that has their own district. What if I say to you just party with your fellowcountryman and talk your language. And whispering is hard if you want to talk to like 10 people.