Alternative way to kill Glint (team build)

Since many people struggle to get the nice old dragon killed, I have been thinking about a team build that does not require any physical or elemental damage to kill Glint.
This one is core professions only, but uses/mentions some skills from other campaigns.

Comments are very welcome.


The required characters for this build are:
- Curses Necromancer, main skill: Soul Barbs
- Illusions Mesmer, main skill: Fragility


At 16 curses, Soul Barbs does 31 damage to target when an enchantment or hex is cast at the target.
At 16 Illusions, Fragility does 21 damage whenever the target suffers or recovers from a new condition.

Since we are killing Glint and that's a Prophecies boss, both hexes and conditions last only half time, which is good for the Fragility.
Fragility can be put on Glint all the time, Soul Barbs has 5 seconds not covered (lasts 30 seconds, that's 15 on Glint and the reload time is 20 seconds).

With those two skills, we can determine the rest of the team.
We want as much hexes and conditions on Glint, without doing any physical or elemental damage.


Team setup (condition skills only, expaination below):

Warriors (W/N):
- Blood Drinker (bleeding self)
- Chilbains (poison self)
- Enfeeble (weakness)
- Plague Signet / Your All Alone / Headbutt (Send all conditions / Cripple / Daze with plague send)

Rangers (R/N):
- Snare (cripple)
- Blood Drinker (bleeding self)
- Chilbains (poison self)
- Enfeeble (weakness)
- Smoke Trap / Virulence (Daze + Blind / Disease + Poison + Weakness)
- Plague sending skill


Mesmer (Me/any)
- Fragility (main skill)
- Phantom Pain / Accumulated Pain (Deep Wound)
- Inspired Hex (to remove Crystal Haze)
- Any Hex that does not cause elemental damage (prefer degen) and can be cast fast


Necro (Ne/any)
- Soul Barbs (main skill)
- Any Hex that does not cause elemental damage (prefer life draining / degen) and can be cast fast

Elementalist (E/N):
- Blinding Flash (Blind)
- Burning Speed (Burning self and adjenct)
- Plague sending skill
- Any Hex that does not cause elemental damage and can be cast fast.

Monk (Mo/Me)
- Inspired Hex (to remove Crystal Haze, at 3 inspiration magic you can do this for free (cost and gain both 5 energy)
- Hex Breaker (optional, to make sure you will not suffer from Crystal Haze exhaust too much)
- Any preferred healing / protecting skill.

The least preferred member seems the ranger, but with interrupts he/she can put a stop to Crystal Hibernation, saving time.


The Hex part is simple.
Put as many on Glint in a short time, causing 31 damage each time.
The degen hexes are to counter the +7 regen from Crystal Hibernation

Conditions cause 21 damage on start and end, so take those that last short.
Remember that you only apply a condition when the old one has ended, this requires some coordination.

When ran correctly, this team build could do 2x 126 damage in short time on conditions (6 x 21, max 189)
The hexes should be around 400 damage, 12 hexes x 31.
This is 3 casters with each 3 hexes cast.
That's about 650 damage dealt in less than 30 seconds, without using Physical or Elemental.

To speed up the process, the mesmer can take Ineptitude (142 damage, but blinds for 10 seconds (5 on Glint), so that's one Blinding Flash less, netting about 100 additional damage).
Wastrel's Worry could do some decent damage, with enough points in Domination (the build requires max Illusions)
Clumsiness adds well, since Glint will be attacking most of the time and it's a Hex.

/Ne Warriors and Rangers can take life stealing skills (like the touch ranger build). The Plague sending skills are also very usefull against those 'dirty' rangers.
The main Necro could use Spoil Victor or Insidious Parasite.
When they have Nightfall, consider Signet of Suffering (37 damage for each hex on Glint, max 140)




Conditions and considerations:

Bleeding:
Rangers have the Lacerate spirit, but that one has a 30 seconds recharge, which is too long.
A necro can use Blood Drinker and Signet of Agony combined with a condition transfering skill.
The best is Blood Drinker, since the duration is only 10 seconds, compared to the 25 from Signet.
Other bleeding needs damage.

Blindness:
Warriors kan use Belly Smash, but this is dangerous because if they continue to attack, they will hit with physical or elemental damage.
Rangers have Throw Dirt and Smoke Trap, the latter is elite, but does cause dazed.
The Elementalist can use blinding Flash, this one last only 3 seconds with no Air magic.

Burning:
The only skill I'm aware of that causes burning without damage is Burning Speed, which can be combined with a plague sending skill.

Cripple:
Warriors can cause cripple and weakness with the 'Your All Alone' shout. It's an Nightfall elite.
Rangers can cause cripple with snare (trap), minimum 3 seconds and 20 seconds recharge.
The mesmer has Illusion of Haste, 15 seconds cripple, but only after 11 seconds if it's the same mesmer as the Fragility.

Dazed:
Warriors can use Headbutt (elite), this touch skill does additional damage (don't know if it's physical, weapon related or plain damage).
Rangers have Smoke Trap.

Deep Wound:
Mesmers can cause Deep Wound with Phantom Pain (with additional degen) and Accumulated Pain (deals damage). Both are linked to Illusions, which is linked to the duration of the Deep Wound.

Disease:
Only Necromancer, the only usefull spell is Virulence (elite)
It's linked to Death Magic, so no longer duration (minimum 3 seconds)

Poison:
Virulence (mentioned at Disease) causes Poison, as does Chilblains (on self, use plague sending)

Weakness:
Is caused by Virulence and the 'Enfeeble' Necro skills.
The latter are linked to curses, so not the best choice for the 'primary' necro.

How are you planning to make it to her to start with? >.<
And your ele would run out of energy quickly spamming Flash every possible second.
Good brainstorming though.

I would still get some interrupts in there.

Cheers to the OP for imagination!

Cheers to SpitfireXA for pointing out that one minor problem of getting to her (hey, it didn't occur to me right away.)

Seems like this team, especially with only one monk, might have some trouble getting through those forgotten mesmers and the crystal ele guys. Better be sure to have the necro come prepared to battery like mad in the event of mob control mishaps along the way.

I've never had *that* much trouble killing her with quickly-thrown-together groups of friends/henchies as long as we had one or two people knowing to try to interrupt her and another knowing to try to help keep haze off the monks.

Has she gotten a lot harder in the last few months? Np, if not, just curious. Working out very situational builds just for a lark is great too!

(EDIT, addition) A concern:

This may very well work, but I suspect the problems most people have with her are that too many people on the team don't understand how this bit of the game works (like I said, never had many problems with it in groups of friends where we do a quick "ok, ele and non-ele weapons available? couple interrupts? haze removal? everyone got a cap sig if you want it?" review in the outpost.)

So this might actually be a harder build for the general recommendation. Too restrictive of which professions, which skills (some not available until So. Shiv.)

If you get 8 people willing and able to get this specific up front, you probably have 8 people that could easily manage her on any number of team builds.

I think I support the general advice to those having trouble with her of learn what you're facing (either through trial and error or posted walkthrus) don't waste much time trying it with pugs that aren't willing to discuss, explain, and plan ahead of time kick any pug member that gets impatient during said process or refuses to switch their build or weapon without a reasonable explanation why not (on the same idea, don't be that pug member!)
Luny

I honestly dont see why people have so much trouble with glint.

My friend and I did Dragon's Lair to get to droks(instead of paying for a run). We got to glint, didnt think we would even come close to killing her, but we figured "what the heck, we'll try it for fun". In about 5 minutes, we ended up killing her, my friend and I were both ele's, I was fire(searing flames) he was earth(obsidian flame, etc). My friend doesnt have NF, I do, I took koss, Talhkora and Magrid(setup as barrage). And we had the protector hench, brawler hench, and the cultist.

As I said, we ended up killing her in about 5 minutes, she went down REALLY fast till she started using crystal hibernation, then is when it took the most time. But we kept at it and had her dead, suprising both of us.

Koss didnt have Wild Blow either, and with no interrupts, she used all her skills to their full extent. And at the most, the brawler hench and koss died maybe 3 times.(i think koss died once and the brawler died twice)

We did it in two minutes or so. Zenmai with Distracting Blow, Jin with Savage/Distracting Shot, Orders Olias. Lynn, Alesia, Thom, me (Ranger) and a relative (Warrior). I ran out of energy quite quickly because I didn't know what I was doing, we were just doing it to get my Canthan to Droknar, but Heroes saved the day.

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