What are the basic MM skills?

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Dark bond does not reduce the sacrifice of spells. It's not damage, so your minions can't actually take the sac for you.

It should be noted that Blood Renewal should only be used if you're using Aura of the Lich, becuase you then only sac 1/4 the normal amount. When using Aura of the Lich, I think about 6+regen is enough to let you spam BotM over and over again without actually losing any hp. You can easily get more than 6+ regen with some points into Earth prayers and using one other enchantment......Dark bond or Infuse condition would be perfect if you got 8 points in Earth prayers: AotL + Infuse + Mystic regen = long lasting 9+ regen. Since this skill cuts your hp in half, degen will kill twice as fast, but that can easily be countered.

I always liked Jagged bones alot cause you can get unlimited uses of Taste of Death, which means you can put all your remaining points into Soul reaping since you'll be using one of your minions for an unlimited source of massive hp. At 10+ Soul reaping: 5 energy from Jagged bones + 5 energy using Taste of death to kill the minion = tons of hp and slight energy gain.

Flesh Golem is good when you know you're gonna lack minions. You can keep this this lvl26 thing up forever and it can do massive damage against casters. It's a melee minion, but also has lots of armor so it can tank pretty well. Since this elite doesn't help you heal or ease the sacrifice of BotM in any way, you have to change your 2ndary to something with strong healing such as N/Rt, N/Mo, or N/D.

There's a few other elites that you might wanna try out for MM'ing too, like Reaper's Mark, or Icy veins. Just find a list of all the Death and Soul reaping elites and see what suits your MM build.

Actually, Jagged Bones is better than flesh golem for low-corpse places, since you can technically keep up the whole army instead of just one golem.

Other skills that you may wish to look into:

Infuse Conditions, especially if you're running Disease (From rotting flesh, putrid flesh, or whatever). Also stops Dazed in places where that happens.
If you're running healing prayers, Dwayna's Sorrow is pretty neat, especially if you're cycling through minions fast.
I've tried running Virulence/Epidemic with Jagged Horrors (Nightfall minions), and it works kinda okay for PVE.

People have already covered the other major skills... Aura of the Lich, Order of Undeath, Jagged Bones, and such.

Playing an MM outside of the base skills is pretty much a mix-and-match for your favorite type of minion and support skill.

OK, So here's my build so far I guess:

Animate Bone Fiend
Order of Undeath
Deathly Swarm
Blood of the Master
Infuse Condition
Blood renewal
Karei's Healing Circle
Rebirth

Basically, get an army up and since they're all ranged I THINK they should stay where I am (yes? no?) so K Circle will be easy to use. Since they need to attack, I'd be in range so infuse can help a lot, and Blood renewal to help counter OoU.

Also, I know I need 16 Death but should I use other sup runes to lower health?

my MM bulid is

rotting flesh (optional)
Deathly Swarm (optional)
blood of the master
flesh golem
vamp horror
fiend
healing breeze
res chant

nothing amazing, but walks most pve stuff easily

if u wanna reduce health without so much of a penalty, then

weapons, something like a 20/20 wand/offhand, or like my MM a staff with +5al, which imo is better for sacrifcing skills, as u have less health to sac (and therefor reheal) but are still protected..

a heal over time skill maybe better for OOU (like healing breeze)

if you wanna try the rune route, then sup death magic, and sup soul reaping would be the top 2 choices.

only way to get more than 10 minions is the +1 20% chance mod isnt it? then u get 11 minions

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Order_of_Undeath

interesting reading ^

IMO if you are wasting points in healing prayers, I tend to think my MM is better than yours. I have 16/14; death magic and soul reaping respectively.

I didnt really read the thread too much, but that is my opinion on it for the record books. Hopefully I dont get anyone too heated on that. I am far more aggressive than MMs that I am usually stuck with in PUGs though, so I guess it depends on your play style.


Blood of the Master is all youll need to keep your minions alive, unless your group is out taking lunch while you are trying to clear the next area.

All you need to keep yourself alive is Taste of Death, targeting your Flesh Golem if youre really low on corpses. I usually bring Putrid Explosion, because there are plenty of corpses- you can death so much damage with PE it is red engine rediculous.


OP, my honest advice is; if you are trying to "get in" to MMs do something creative rather than plan "well im going to sit around doing nothing for a while, so I might as well bring heal area and go N/Mo". Itll make you less of a clone ::

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