Would it really be so hard...

...to give people heroes at their current level? I know this has probably been said before, but honestly now this is ri-goddamn-diculous. There are few things quite as disheartening as having an old prophecies character go over to nightfall and finding yourself with a level 2 koss. Its even more disheartening remembering you need your crappy level 8 dunkoro for the first mission if you don't want to suffer through finding a pug. Its just another stupid added grind element to the game we could all live without. They took out the sunspear rank requirement for foreign characters, why not give us our heroes at a reasonable level too? Hell, even if they don't want to do that because for some reason they like having us grind to get our character's leveled couldn't they at least take out the required heroes for foreign characters?

Also, I'd like anet to get me a pony for christmas. Its about as likely as them doing something this simple and so based on common sense it seems anyway.

You do realize that while heroes are below your currently level, they earn xp at 5x the normal rate. Throw on a couple xp scrolls and they catch up real fast.

Maybe thats why my Koss leveled like 5 times in the middle of Consulate Docks.

Yes I'm aware of that, however its still a waste of time. I rolled a bonder on my monk and took my heroes out to kill trolls outside of drok's, complete with XP scrolls. Still time I could have spent doing far better things if I didn't have to deal with this kind of crap.

I have the same problem. I don't like taking the time to find pugs or dealing with the morons in them, but when it comes to my hero's it gets pretty repetitive when you have 6 Tyrian characters and 2 from Factions to level.

I do agree with this, I mean if you are level 20 already and have come from Cantha/Tyria, which means you have done all those pre quests etc etc, Why not give you level 20 heroes aswel ? Seems fair.

/signed

/not signed for pony thou I'm against Animal cruelty.

Its really not that hard to lvl them up, just play the game normally and they will be up to speed

they give you olias at lvl 15, is that so you dont have to lvl the guy for ages before using him? of course it is...LOL

so its kinda pathetic that we have to deal with a lvl 2 koss

Low-level heroes is actually what chased me away from playing on my ranger (my only non-NF char with heroes). I spent a little over an hour doing a bunch of quests I skipped in factions just to try to get them up to speed...after that i found out that quest rewards don't help your heroes....

How should I level them with a ranger? I dont' know of any solo ranger farming builds...

When I finish a quest, my heroes recieve benifits of XP. If there was a little XP bar under their face in the Skill menu or something that would be helpful.

As for the levels... Meh. I really don't care. They level with me but it is a pain.

/Signed or Notsigned. Whatever works for you.

/signed. Foreign characters should get Koss, Dunkoro, Melonni, and Tahlkora (maybe Jin/Sousuke too) at least at level 15...

Getting XP at 5x the normal rate is more than enough. Here's a way to get all your heros up to lvl 20 easily.

1- Find a quest
2- Do the quest, don't take the hero if you don't want to.
3- Just before you accept the reward, add the hero to your party.
4- Hero gets 5x the quest reward without going anywhere.

/not signed

Whats next? Not wanting to level up your new characters because it's a waste of time to get to 20 even though it can be done in one day?

Come on.

You dont' have to take the time to power level each one, take tem out into explorable areas while you do quests or farm sunspear points or just continue the primary quests and mission and befor eyou know it, they will be leveled up. Sure some of them will stay low due to the fact you may not need them, but who cares.

It's not hard or long to level them up.

/signed

^^ actually it does take a long time to do them when you're only able to play on weekends and do your homework/go to work like you're supposed to....

sorry if you find that offending, but it does take longer for people that actually have a normal busy life

QFT... at least give level 15 heroes to foreigners so that a level 2 koss isnt COMPLETELY useless since you start off the Nightfall campaign in a level 15+ area.

I don't mind too much levelling the heroes on my previous characters, I have 8.
I just take them with me to Lutgardis Conservatory, while the quest is short and easy I get 2000 exp to share plus the chests and factions! It's a bit boring and repetitive but they level up quickly.

Sure, it would be better if the heroes would have the same level of your character, tho!

Seems more like a rant than a suggestion to me...

/not signed due to lazyness of the OP.
Yes you read it right.

/signed

I levelled them once with my Tyrian Warrior, then when I took my Mesmer through, I pretty much waited until I was at the Desolation before using wurms to level them.
Now with every other character, I'm ignoring heroes and trying to pug it. Levelling heroes, even WITH the 5x experience rate, is incredibly tedious.
Let alone which, I might be wrong here, but you don't level when you're dead, do you?
Because they're such a pathetically low level, from Consulate Docks onwards, most of these heroes spend most of their time sucking sand.

... they dont get 5x the quest reward, they get the normal quest reward. You just include them whenver you do quests, there are plenty to be done.

Is is ever annoying when you take your level 20 into Nightfall, his a 'Hero X is required for this mission!' forcing you to add that hero... while he's only level 2.

While it's nice we don't have to keep them alive and all, it effectively weakens your party, yes?

Now... I personally won't care if this is implemented or not. But I hope it is.

What lazyness? I addressed a problem (leveling up however many characters across 6 non-nightfall characters is teh g4y, overly time-consuming for NO PURPOSE) and gave suggestions on how to fix it (simply give the heroes to the character at their current level or get rid of the required heroes bit, both are very simple fixes to the problem).

Maybe you should try like, I dunno, reading posts and comprehending them? Might be of some value, you never know.

/signed

Your not the first persone to ask for this and you probably wont be the last, but your still wrong.

It is lazy to ask Anet to lvl up the heros for you.

Its fast and easy to do and there are multiple threads that can teach you how to do it.

You just don't wish to take the time, and time is all were talking about here nothing more.

/unsigned

/not signed due to laziness on your part.

Lol, how can you call it lazyness its a game, not a job.

playing games is lazy by your defenition of not wanting to do the work, because frankly you should be doing something like your homework or housework


/signed

/not signed for getting Koss and crew at Lv 20
because completely tricked out heroes in PvE should require ... well, at least some PvE.


/signed for getting Koss and crew at Lv 15 or so like Olias, for foreign characters. (or for having the game give them to you at your character's level minus 5)

The Lvl 2 and 6 does just look like such a bummer, and Dunkoro at 6 is required for your first mission. Yeah, they level up really fast compared to us, but giving such low level heroes to characters finished with Tyria and or Canthan storylines seems almost patronizing. *SPOILER* Especially the case for Koss, as you lose access to playing with him for a while right near the start of where you'd first start really fighting much as a foreign character.


Here's an additional suggestion *ANOTHER SPOILER*

After finishing the last mission, give us quests that give the Zaishen hero we're missing (Souske or Jin IIRC) at higher than level 11. That was rather insulting. "Yeah!! I helped defeat a fallen god!! I saved Elona from Nightfall!! ... and so now I get to power-level some Level 11 kid?!?!" I know they're optional choices and not required for any of the primary story. Still, it doesn't seem like much of a reward. Getting them at a higher level wouldn't ring untrue to the story either - the missing Souske or Jin didn't just sit around Plains of Jarin waiting for you; they could've been working on their training somewhat without you.

At least Master or Margrid shows up at Lv 18. The Lv 11 hero that you unlock for completing the storyline just seemed like a backhanded compliment.

Luny

Lazyness? o_O Well, sure, it's easy to level up the heroes. Just keep on with the main missions and they'll level in their own time. But it is, ultimately, a pointless task, and one which must be endured over and over if you're bringing in multiple level 20 characters.

But if level 20 players are going straight into Consulate Docks, shouldn't the mission's required hero be a little more robust than his starting level of (I think) 6?

Eh. It's an annoying issue, but not one that can't be lived with.

/signed

I find it rediculous to call the OP lazy.. I mean comon! I have 8 characters from proph and factions, and I want them all over to nightfall (skills, armor) but having to put up with leveling those low leveled hero dudes and dudettes takes to much time imo.. Level 20 is not needed, but level 15 would do just fine at least enough to make them get trough the first mission, cause level 2 koss en level 6 dunkuro drop like flies when you are not the one protecting them