Unique item drop rates

Muk Utep

Muk Utep

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Are they really, really low or am I just very unlucky? From playing through NF I estimate I've killed at least 3-400 bosses, and I've found one unique item ever (some low-level crap from Istan). That's such a tiny chance. Do you need to farm specific areas for decent odds of a unique drop?

SirJackassIII

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

Henchies and Heroes get drops as well.

Westofeden

Westofeden

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

TN

Naga Stole Mah Bike [OhNo]

R/E

If you are solo farming then you just have bad luck.

Hand of Ruin

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

I love it when people pull random numbers out of their assess and use those numbers to complain...

Just playing through the story without taking time to do extensive exploring, you've probably only killed 30 bosses tops...(aside from mission bosses). There isn't even 200 bosses in Elona let alone 3-4 hundred... so unless you killed every boss you could possibly find multiple times, you're full of crap.

Given that you're full of crap, bosses don't drop their green everytime, and when they do, it's assigned to a random member of the party. If that member was a henchmen, you don't see the drop.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Unique items drop very rare. It took me ages to farm orosens staff and kaolin wand on my rit, even with only 3 hench. While its true that hench take drops, the chances of you getting the drop are still the same as with a group of people.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hand of Ruin
Just playing through the story without taking time to do extensive exploring, you've probably only killed 30 bosses tops...(aside from mission bosses). There isn't even 200 bosses in Elona let alone 3-4 hundred... so unless you killed every boss you could possibly find multiple times, you're full of crap.
He never said he killed 3-400 DIFFERENT bosses....Because I go out and kill, say, Lian, Dragon's Petal once doesn't mean she wont be there again...I have been out into the Wajjun Bazaar multiple times and have killed that boss multiple times. I've never had her lantern. I think you have been overly harsh...not sure there was any call for that.

Hiero

Hiero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muk Utep
Are they really, really low or am I just very unlucky? From playing through NF I estimate I've killed at least 3-400 bosses, and I've found one unique item ever (some low-level crap from Istan). That's such a tiny chance. Do you need to farm specific areas for decent odds of a unique drop?
Your just unlucky, every boss in NF I soloed dropped his green within 5 times. Most even on first or second try.

9th Requiem

9th Requiem

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guardians of the Stars

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hand of Ruin
I love it when people pull random numbers out of their assess and use those numbers to complain...

Just playing through the story without taking time to do extensive exploring, you've probably only killed 30 bosses tops...(aside from mission bosses). There isn't even 200 bosses in Elona let alone 3-4 hundred... so unless you killed every boss you could possibly find multiple times, you're full of crap.

Given that you're full of crap, bosses don't drop their green everytime, and when they do, it's assigned to a random member of the party. If that member was a henchmen, you don't see the drop.
Harsh tone, but amusing, and undoubtedly true. I would have personally usedthe phrase "over-exaggerating" instead of "full of crap", but each to thier own.

Yes, there's a tiny chance. Considering you get a max damage, max inscription, max mod item, it's fair.

Muk Utep

Muk Utep

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
I love it when people pull random numbers out of their assess and use those numbers to complain...

Just playing through the story without taking time to do extensive exploring, you've probably only killed 30 bosses tops...(aside from mission bosses). There isn't even 200 bosses in Elona let alone 3-4 hundred... so unless you killed every boss you could possibly find multiple times, you're full of crap.

Given that you're full of crap, bosses don't drop their green everytime, and when they do, it's assigned to a random member of the party. If that member was a henchmen, you don't see the drop.
Considering that there's usually 2-4 bosses in every area, and many quests involve going through the same area several times, yes I've probably killed that amount of bosses. 15-20 bosses a day for a few weeks, it's not difficult to imagine numbers like that. I don't rush through the game or complete only primary quests, I do them all and I have done the same areas more than once to get collecting items or to level up heroes.

I usually have a party of either 4 or 8 depending on the difficulty of the area, so let's say an average of 6 party members. The reason I asked (not complained) if I needed to go through specific areas is that I hear about a lot of people farming bosses and getting several uniques a day, so I wondered what was up. I'm fully aware that heroes and henchmen take items, but even with my estimate of, let's say, 350 bosses and an average of 6 party members, it still seemed like a low percentage to me.

There's no need to be offensive like that and it's really such a shame that your way of posting is becoming fairly common on these forums. Do you get some kind of kick out of insulting people?

midnight caretaker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

There's no need to be offensive like that and it's really such a shame that your way of posting is becoming fairly common on these forums. Do you get some kind of kick out of insulting people?[/QUOTE]


I agree the flaming and bashing of those not as experienced in these forums seems to have gotten worse. It is also happens when people dont agree. If you dont agree with the OP or another reply state why, what your view is and leave it at that. I know 2 people that dont post here anymore because of this very fact. Mods please give these guys a little break from the forums when it happens more often. Maybe a little note when posting saying that unacceptable behavior will result in a temp ban and after 3 strikes if you cant behave a permanent ban.

About your green problem. I have one char that went through the whole game with out a green (nightfall). Then in the desolation i got the purifier and ulwis bow (i believe thats right) back to back. Its just a luck thing. I suggest finding a specific green you like and farm it till it drops also take advantage of the green weekends. Thats where i got most of mine.

jcapulet

jcapulet

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Aside from the recent green drop weekend, I have gotten 2 greens off bosses, with a 5 to 6-hench party. Yep it's luck...there are certain greens I really want, but never get them off the particular bosses I want them from.

But at least I've gotten them in Nightfall...in Prophecies and Factions I have never gotten a green while farming with henchies. :shrug:

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

ive gotten greens with full parties of henchment. ive gotten greens solo.

I once went ghial farming, expecting to do 20-30 runs. First kill, green staff. Second kill, green staff again.

Two in a row. So i decided, lets call it a day ;P

jcapulet

jcapulet

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
ive gotten greens with full parties of henchment. ive gotten greens solo.

I once went ghial farming, expecting to do 20-30 runs. First kill, green staff. Second kill, green staff again.

Two in a row. So i decided, lets call it a day ;P
Now that's what I call a Lucky Duckie.

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

I used to get around 2 greens a SF run using a full party of henchies. Thats not to say I always got greens that were worth a damn. And there is always the times you get nothing. Though the best is the time I took full party of henchies and got 5 greens from one run :P, though I usually kill around 13 bosses per run (counting footprint too). Generally kill 3 from outside SF and then 10 inside...its a pain involves high dp but meh, I'll have to try it with heroes probably do better.

FeroxC

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

EOA

P/W

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Your just unlucky, every boss in NF I soloed dropped his green within 5 times. Most even on first or second try.
Every boss i kill drops there green atleast 90% of the time and every enemy drops either a gold serpent or drawven axe 50% of the time unless im in the underworld then they drop 2 ecto each or fow 5 shards per kill on average.

Your just unlucky.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

90% of all statistics are made up

Xeones The Great

Xeones The Great

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2006

American District 1

NDR|||We are recruiting|||PM me

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirJackassIII
Henchies and Heroes get drops as well.
WTF r u serious???

since when?!?!?

i always knew they get exp, not drops wtf!!!

Firebaall

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeones The Great
WTF r u serious???

since when?!?!?

i always knew they get exp, not drops wtf!!!
What makes you think you deserve the drops from Henchies/Heros? Yeah, that would be fair. One person gets the treasure from the work of a full party of eight.

Gregslot

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Westofeden
If you are solo farming then you just have bad luck.
a REALLY bad luck

Domon Kasho

Domon Kasho

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Ebony Citedel Chest

[TWS] The Warriors Stronghold

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by FeroxC
Every boss i kill drops there green atleast 90% of the time and every enemy drops either a gold serpent or drawven axe 50% of the time unless im in the underworld then they drop 2 ecto each or fow 5 shards per kill on average.

Your just unlucky.
right show me a baddie that even has dwarven axes in there drop chart and 2 ecto or 5 shards from 1 kill is a pretty good chance of horse crap lies too.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Domon Kasho
right show me a baddie that even has dwarven axes in there drop chart and 2 ecto or 5 shards from 1 kill is a pretty good chance of horse crap lies too.
I think your sarcasm detector is broken my friend. ^_~

More Outrage

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Yorkshire

GOO

They are a rare drop. `RARE`, ok some people are lucky and some are not. For every guy that got the drop on first turn many others didn`t get the drop the few times they killed the boss. In fact if they were close to getting the drop they were teased by getting a gold scroll or even a blue scroll, the green is three to four times harder to be awarded and then some greens drop even less chance than others.

I thought everyone knew heroes and henchies got drops but then I forget that there are always new players (welcome and enjoy).

I play a lot, too much truth be known, my green drops are few but I reckon I got my share. Seemed too few to begin with, just a couple of max and too many non max from starter island after playing many hours on all chars. Then about a month ago and not during a green weekend obtained 5 max greens within 3 days over 2 campaigns. I had to double check it wasn`t still green weekend!

Anyway I prefer a good gold myself and will be chest raiding this weekend. gl all.

Angel Netherborn

Angel Netherborn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Lower Ward, Sigil

Goda Vos

Really really unlucky if your estimate of 3-4 hundred bosses is near accurate. For greens that are popular, it's likely rarer, since the game takes farming into account when factoring in drops.

Renegade26

Renegade26

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

To continue this discussion I believe we must answer the quest "Is a green a blessing from God or a right to all?".

Nexus Icon

Nexus Icon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Natis Ignigena

Me/

Just as an added comment, when Nightfall came out, I was at 180 elite skills.
I got all of the rest fairly quickly.
In killing an extra 111 bosses, as well as many incidental ones on the way, I got 1 green drop, and that was on the very last skill cap boss I killed (well, last but one; Ebon Dust Aura wasn't available back then ).
BUT, I did kill these bosses with a full group of heroes and henchies, and didn't think to send them away before the bosses died.
Let alone which, I was only killing these bosses once in general, in order to get their elite skill.

sm2006

sm2006

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Minor Pimps Of Fortidude[PMIP]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hand of Ruin
I love it when people pull random numbers out of their assess and use those numbers to complain...

Just playing through the story without taking time to do extensive exploring, you've probably only killed 30 bosses tops...(aside from mission bosses). There isn't even 200 bosses in Elona let alone 3-4 hundred... so unless you killed every boss you could possibly find multiple times, you're full of crap.

Given that you're full of crap, bosses don't drop their green everytime, and when they do, it's assigned to a random member of the party. If that member was a henchmen, you don't see the drop.
good point