Ele Farming rihlon refuge

cyrus_tk

cyrus_tk

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Zealots of Balthazar [ZoB]

Mo/

Im not going to go into the ins and outs because the video pretty much shows you what to do.

all i need to tell is the skills and attributes.



Attributes

Inspiration 9
Earth magic 16 Sup rune and head peice
energy storage 11 Sup rune


Skills
Mantra of earth, stone Striker, Stoneflesh Aura, Aura of restoration, Glyph of restoration, Arcane Echo, Sandstorm {E}, and stone daggers.


the vid explains most of what you need to know. If you are still stuck pm me in game.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdVnpDpmNc4

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

Yes! Another farming place for my geomancer! and this time it's not just looting lvl 16 crap.

Thankyou.

Riceboi

Riceboi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Nice build but what is Glyph of restoration?

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

I do the same farm, but with Ranger/Ele, using 15-16 specc'ed EoE and 14 specced Sandstorm.

I use:
Troll
Storm Chaser
Optional (I bring Stone Daggers)
Stoneflesh
EoE
Glyph of Ele Power
Sandstorm
Earthquake

Storm Chaser past the beastie group. Troll if you got Conjure put on you.

Get to the rock, Put Stoneflesh up, Spawn them, then run back past the boss and wait for them to bunch, if they happen to hit you while you are running past, troll to stop the conditions while you wait.

Aggro them, hide between the cliff there, Set up EoE, Use Glyph->Sandstorm then go into Earthquake. Earthquake hits just as they start to run out of sandstorm aoe keeping them planted there just long enough for EoE to rape them as they try to run. Theres the off chance that Fastfoot survives (like 1 in 20) but he'll have like 20 hp or less left so just duck out and dagger him up once.

Its safer because they arent actually hitting you (obstructed because of cliff), and EoE finishes off all the random ones that you had to finish off with Daggers :\

The same thing can be done with Ele/R, You'll have a stronger Sandstorm/Earthquake but a weaker EoE - it should equal out.

cyrus_tk

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Zealots of Balthazar [ZoB]

Mo/

Glyph of restoration is for the degen AFTER you have killed them. I have sometimes died form it

so just to be safe.

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

Yay! I got like 3 bows in one night!

*claps*

sold one for 30k.

cyrus_tk

cyrus_tk

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Zealots of Balthazar [ZoB]

Mo/

Congratz glad you are enjoying it XD

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

30k? Darn...I sell them 5k ea flat price.

I've seen people spamming for HOURS at 10k and not selling them :\

Riceboi

Riceboi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrus_tk
Glyph of restoration is for the degen AFTER you have killed them. I have sometimes died form it

so just to be safe. Is there a glyph called glyph of restoration? Can you tell me what it does?

Thanks

cyrus_tk

cyrus_tk

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Zealots of Balthazar [ZoB]

Mo/

Glyph of restoration is a nightfall skill

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Glyph_of_Restoration

Here that should help you Riceboi

Frenzied

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Those insects arent there :S
All i see are drakes lol, did you get a special quest?

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

do you reckon you could do this on a warrior?

Its a challenge, who can work out a build for soloing these punks with a warrior. ^^

lol
great build gj.
~A Leprechaun~

cyrus_tk

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Zealots of Balthazar [ZoB]

Mo/

The spawn does not appear if you have a primary quest Drakes on the Plain.

bored-.-bored

bored-.-bored

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Behind You...

X Team Slayers X

hmm would this build work for war

axe 10(6+4)
tactics rest
earth 12


stone flesh aura
sandstorm
watch yourself
heal singet
dismember
glymp of elemental power
optional
optional

please tell me if you have any ideas

Turbobusa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

By the Luxon Scavenger

The Mentalists [THPK]

N/

standart tank with melandru's resilience + I will survive?

cyrus_tk

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Zealots of Balthazar [ZoB]

Mo/

This is an ele post please take your warrior ideas to a post it concernes.

cyrus_tk

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Zealots of Balthazar [ZoB]

Mo/

(bump) Not enough people know

Nechtan Thaumaturge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/

Nice build. I've been playing around with it for awhile; even just adding up the normal drops, you make about 15k an hour. Unfortunately, I think it might only be another week or two before the green bows become the Shreader's Talons of Elona.

Also, I agree with Former Ruling that this is a good place for Edge of Extinction. You can shed 30 seconds to a minute from the run with it. As an E/R, it's hard to get enough into Beast Mastery to kill the boss outright; so, this is what I run:

Edge of Extinction
Run as One
Sandstorm {E}
Sliver Armor
Obsidian Flame
Glyph of Restoration
Stoneflesh Aura
Armor of Earth

Earth Magic: 16 (12 + 3 + 1)
Energy Storage: 9 (8 + 1)
Beast Mastery: 10

I usually run through the first group of Nephilia towards the shrine. Let them group up with the rest, so that you only need to fight one battle. Then, put the Extinction spirit down on the bridge, cast your armor enchantments, and aggro the mob. Use Sandstorm, then approach and hit Sliver Armor. Throw an Obsidian Flame on the boss and stay near the Nephilia when they scatter from the Sandstorm. That usually does it.

If you're having trouble with the boss, let Sliver Armor work on it a bit more and re-cast Obsidian Flame as necessary. Finally, use Glyph of Restoration to fight the bleeding and poisoning -- don't worry about it too much though, the best approach is to simply kill everything fast and heal later.

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bored-.-bored

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Behind You...

X Team Slayers X

cool build ty ill give it a try later

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrus_tk
This is an ele post please take your warrior ideas to a post it concernes. You'd rather there be 8 threads, "Ranger FastFoot Farm", "Warrior FastFoot Farm!", etc...

No, I think 1 is enough...

These are very easy to kill anyway...with any class really. If you are straight fighting them you have to worry about -7degen, but theres a ledge there where you can hide behind and just AoE them if you don't have to be up close.

Whether this or the Haven bugs are better for consistent farming is really not calculated yet...Haven has alot more bugs but you have to prepare builds considering all the bug types (monks, warriors, etc). This has less bugs but they are all the rangers and theres the chance at the green that adds to the hourly profit.

cyrus_tk

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Zealots of Balthazar [ZoB]

Mo/

LOL (stressy)

ultima desturcto

ultima desturcto

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

On a plane constantly moving around the world

The King's Guard

E/

kk, guys dont get immature,
I tweaked your build slightly, making it E/D, For the obvious reason, Mystic regen (personally adore), mines fairly similar to Nechtans as far as Earth spells, this is what i have:

Enchanted Haste
Sandstorm
Sliver Armor
Obsidian Flame
Earth Attunement
Armor of Earth
Stoneflesh Aura
Mystic Regeneration

Mystic Regen provides all healing needs and counters degen, although its only poisoned and bleeding i still found myself running low on health at the end, and even died once

drumer1029

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Dark Vigalanties

E/D

I'm using an E/R EoE build, and it seems to work really well.

Earth: 16 (12+3+1)
Energy Storage: 9 (8+1)
Beast Mastery: 10
Wilderness Survival: 2

Sandstorm{E}
Glyph of Restoration
Armor of Earth
Stone Stirker
Stoneflesh Aura
Aura of Restoration
Storm Chaser
Edge of Extinction

Same tactics...run past first group, spawn, run past the 2/3 across the bridge. Then wait for them to group up, enchant yourself, agro and target boss. Use Storm Chaser when low on energy(only need to use it once) Hit EoE, Sandstorm, then hit the boss with Sandstorm again to finish him off.

Got 2 bows, 3 golds, and a few dyes in around 10-15 runs so far. Great place to farm.

cyrus_tk

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Zealots of Balthazar [ZoB]

Mo/

I like the idea of adding dervish as a secondry BUT doesnt that take a little longer.? seeing as your not echoing Sandstorm?

The Ranger secondry maybe a good idea if you add serpents quickness into it to make sandstorm recharge faster?

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrus_tk
I like the idea of adding dervish as a secondry BUT doesnt that take a little longer.? seeing as your not echoing Sandstorm?

The Ranger secondry maybe a good idea if you add serpents quickness into it to make sandstorm recharge faster? You only need to cast Sandstorm once...Even in the Ranger/Ele varient where you only have 14 earth (12+2 from ele power).

I was wondering why you even wasted slots on echo'ing your Sandstorm when you could just bring EoE and watch everything explode instantly (which is much more fun to watch IMO )

cyrus_tk

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Zealots of Balthazar [ZoB]

Mo/

Im just thinking of speed. and Economy. Ok if its fun to watch but takes ages its not worth it. Im just thinking speed.

drumer1029

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Dark Vigalanties

E/D

It's faster with EoE to take down the boss, it leaves him with low enough health where you could wand him to death(or just cast sandstorm again)

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrus_tk
Im just thinking of speed. and Economy. Ok if its fun to watch but takes ages its not worth it. Im just thinking speed. You implying mine is slower?

Its even like 5-10 secs faster because In that video you had to Stone Daggers Fastfoot to death at the end...when he just EXPLODES at the end in mine >_>

Why are you bashing all the varients that are showing up in the build.

cyrus_tk

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Zealots of Balthazar [ZoB]

Mo/

Im hardly bashing them. I just feel that 2 sandstorm is faster.

Nechtan Thaumaturge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/

I agree that Arcane Echo + Sandstorm will be faster than a single Sandstorm any day, but the EoE versions are quite quick, however. Don't be misled by the 5-second cast on the Edge of Extinction, because you can set that up while the Nephilia are grouping.

So, to throw some numbers onto the debate, the best time I could manage with my build was 2:20 -- that's starting from the load up and finishing with /resign. So, it takes into consideration all of the time required to run out to the farming site, wait for the Nephilia to collect, fight the battle, and pick up the drops afterward. I think it's the fairest measure of the speed of a build because it considers all the factors which bear, not just battle times.

I don't have a Ranger to test Former Ruling's build, but if he can reliably kill everything at the finale of Earthquake, then his times should be about 5-10 seconds faster than mine.

The best I could manage with the original build (slightly modified) was 2:32. I found that I could survive having only Glyph of Restoration if I killed everything quickly, so I took out Aura of Restoration and fitted in Storm Djinn's Haste. Also, I didn't set up the armor enchantments when I ran through the Ntouka. Doing these two things saves about 20 seconds.

The reason then that the build is marginally slower doesn't have to do with cast times or the potency of the skills involved but the fact that you'll almost always have a couple of Nephilia that scatter from the Sandstorms. Edge of Extinction takes care of these automatically, whereas the Arcane Echo build needs to finish them off with Stone Daggers or additional Sandstorms.

None of this is meant to be too critical of cyrus_tk's work -- let's face it, he got the ball rolling in the first place. Also, regardless of whichever build is fastest, it's never a bad thing to have options, especially for people who don't have access to certain secondaries or skills.

cyrus_tk

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Zealots of Balthazar [ZoB]

Mo/

I will record a video later with the EoE build Just to test but before then i cannot give constuctive criticism. So i am going to just have to agree.

drumer1029

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Dark Vigalanties

E/D

You have a good point there Nechtan, the difference is only a matter of seconds, so either build is good. It's all a matter of personal preference IMO.

isabeau

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

WBA

E/

Hi,

I do this run with an E/Mo and fire skills works great

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Yes, for the sake of not arguing...both runs are fine.

But for sake of having some real numbers to go by:

In your video you used your first enchantment for engaging them at 2:14 and you kill the last monster at ~3:16. That means it took you just over a minute to clear them after first engaged. For Fairness though, the last one you kill there had not been in the Double Sandstormed group, the last of those died at 2:55, so I won't count him, and I'll record your time as 41 Seconds (The time from which you first put up your enchantments to the time the last one dies [not counting the one that wasnt in the sandstorms]).

I've Made a short video of my Ranger EoE build.
*Video will be processed on Youtube at some point*
Filefront Link for in the mean time

*In the video I brought Antidote Signet instead of Stoneflesh Aura, and Run as One instead of Storm Chaser*

For the sake of Fairness since I counted you enchanting up in your time, I have waited until they are bunched up and factored the EoE casting into my time (without your enchanting up or my EoE casting factored in several secs are shaved from both our times).

I Engage them at the start of the video and the last one dies at 23 seconds. That means mine shaved almost half your time off (Battle time that is, not run time).

Even not factoring your Clean Up time, Fastfoot (as well as the majority of the spiders) dies in your vid at 2:44. Thats 30 Seconds from when you started enchanting up. Now for sake of a complete comparison...lets not even factor in your enchanting up in your time, you throw the first Stone Daggers to aggro them at 2:20. Meaning still a longer time of 24 secs for you.

I didn't count running to and bunching up the enemies since in your video you clearly waste alot of time enchanting up before the beasts and not having a run buff, and this comparison is completly time based and doesn't include other information.

In conclusion, just like we said, I'll quote nechtan on this Quote:
The reason then that the build is marginally slower doesn't have to do with cast times or the potency of the skills involved but the fact that you'll almost always have a couple of Nephilia that scatter from the Sandstorms. Edge of Extinction takes care of these automatically, whereas the Arcane Echo build needs to finish them off with Stone Daggers or additional Sandstorms.

Lalita

Lalita

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Mountains

[LaZy]

Super easy run, thanks so much for taking the time to post the video. Its just so much easier to learn things that way!