Wintersday for those absent on January 1st

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

It would be nice if we could receive hats during the course of the event, since many people won't be able to make it. I had to work last New Year's, so I missed out totally. This year I should be able to log on to grab a few hats, but for all of those missing out, something should be done.

ValaOfTheFens

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

I may or may not be able to get on. I'm leaving to live with my cousin for while to help her daughter settle into her new home and I dunno if my cousin has internet access or what. I'll be participating in the other Wintersday activities and really want the hat. The Halloween hat covers my characters face and I rather like being able to see it. Why don't they just give the hats out on Christmas and on New Year's day? Alot of people will be spending time with family but you gotta go home eventually. *lol* I want to know if there'll be a special hat for Elona. Maybe a wreath with big red bows or mistletoe. *sigh* I'm looking forward to the huge dance parties at Lion's Arch and the drunken games of chance.

ValaOfTheFens

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

double post...sorry...

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Is there any specific reason *not* to have a collector for the hats?

Njaiguni Blaze

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Is there any specific reason *not* to have a collector for the hats?
1: WTS Winter Orbs, WTS Winter Orbs, WTS Winter Orbs etc etc
2: "Zomg this sucks! Farming some low level stuff to get a hat"
3: "Zomg this sucks, there aren't enough rewards to get the orbs required, now I have to farm them!"
4: "Zomg this sucks, I haven't got enough time to farm the orbs"

(You can replace Winter Orbs by any collector trophy that would be it)

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Is there any specific reason *not* to have a collector for the hats?
It uses up extra server bandwidth.

ValaOfTheFens

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

I'd really like to know if you have to get the hat to get the storage. I'm tired of carrying my pumpkin head around with me or have it clog up my normal storage. But its a fun item to have, especially at the guild hall.

Lyonette

Lyonette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

[PiG]

E/

NO GAILE NO!

that is unacceptable there's no reason you can't do wintersday finale like the dragon festival finale.

ugh, anet disappoints again...

Njaiguni Blaze

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyonette
NO GAILE NO!

that is unacceptable there's no reason you can't do wintersday finale like the dragon festival finale.

ugh, anet disappoints again...
Who is saying that? < Never mind, I read it in a wrong way. But the Wintersday worked this way last year too right? So what's the problem? (Correct me if I'm wrong, because I started playing in early february)
And Anet (in my opinion and point of view) makes me appeal more than disappoint me.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Njaiguni Blaze
Who is saying that? < Never mind, I read it in a wrong way. But the Wintersday worked this way last year too right? So what's the problem? (Correct me if I'm wrong, because I started playing in early february)
And Anet (in my opinion and point of view) makes me appeal more than disappoint me.
Yes it worked exactly the same way last year.
Anet really started the whiners off by putting that collector in at the dragon festival.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Njaiguni Blaze
NO GAILE NO!

that is unacceptable there's no reason you can't do wintersday finale like the dragon festival finale.

ugh, anet disappoints again...
Talk about being ungrateful.
How can you people be complaing and moaning at anet about a totally free event which they do not have to provide. Yes so you might have to miss out on a freaking hat its not the end of the world. Stop crying and enjoy the rest of the festival which anet have decided to provide just for the hell of it.

Not one person here has the right to have any complaints about any of the events anet provides for us.

Chieftain Heavyhand

Chieftain Heavyhand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

wpg

/agree

This is an event, it is for fun. If the hat is so important then you guys will find a way to get one.

Personally I'm glad the hats are free and there is no BS farming to get some kind of stupid orb to gain them like the Dragonmask. All you have to do is show up and you get a hat so enjoy the holidays and if you have time on the 1st get a hat. If not then life will go on. This is just for fun it is not like the hats have any real value. There will be another Wintersday.

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

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I am going to come out and say that the idea of how the Hat distribution (Santa hat and Antlers) system last winsterday was really terrible and hugely chaotic.

The voting of Dawyna and Grenth Districts really made District hopping to get Hat for other Toons a misery (We have 9 toons now for those that get all 3 Chapters) and from what i read from the event descriptions, its likely this time round instead of a click voting, players might be able to use their Candy Cane Shards to determine the district of the patron gods and hence the Hat which will make things worse for those who are trying to get both Hats for all their characters.

Can any Tawianese forumer confirm the above since their event description are usually more precise with more details? We learn that often surprises can end up as a slap on the face when you only find out about it when it happens.

If tyria is going to similarly have 2 Hats (Dawyna and Grenth) and Kamadan another by it self or similarly 2 different Hats. Then the 9 visit comparison to Mad King is invalid since now we have twice/triple the amount of Hat for the similar amount of visits to get them, made worse by having the possibility of not knowing in time which Patron god will win that particular district.

I have been going on and on for a year about events now. Whats the point of spending so much time and effort on an event that only homebound kids can enjoy fully when the working adult population of GW with committments loses out because they got to work,visit relatives etc. I dont recall the last economic forecast stating that kids make more money/have more spending power than tax contributing working adults, did i?

Finally:
How many Anet Staff are going to be sitting in front of their PCs all New Year's day for 24 hours to attend all 9 sessions of Hat garthering?


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Fender

Fender

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ohio

XoO

How about simply moving the end of event from Jan 1st to Jan 2nd?

I'm not sure if I'll be able to attend. I'll be out of town for a NYE party. I might be back in time to get a hat, but I'm not sure. AFK'ing isn't really an option since I'd have to stay connected for nearly 2 straight days w/o an err7 or being kicked for being inactive.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

No offense, but...

It's not their problem some people are so obsessed they want a hat for every character.

Gonzo

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

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omigosh! I need to combine a hangover with rapid zoning.

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fender
How about simply moving the end of event from Jan 1st to Jan 2nd?
I think that might be even technically worse off than on the 1st since the 2nd isnt technically a holiday and work presumes/school for some in other parts of the world.

My grips isnt with the date but rather the inconsideration masked behind the notion of rarity because you cant get them unless you forsake everything else including sleep. What sort of a game company does this. Makes me wonder why negativity have but sprung up everywhere despite Nightfall being a more well polished product (I dont speak for RoT and DoA).


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Fender

Fender

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ohio

XoO

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
No offense, but...

It's not their problem some people are so obsessed they want a hat for every character.
That's not the issue. I was unable to attend last year and will probably not be able to do it this year, either. I don't want one for every character, I'd simply like 1 hat. 1 over 2 years. Not that much to ask, IMO. There was tons of whining about this last year. They really should reconsider the timing.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Njaiguni Blaze
Since when is the word Christmas offending? I don't believe in all of it, but I don't mind, and it's my opinion. And I don't think christians or people who believe in Jesus Christ etc. are going to be offended by saying "Christmas". I don't get it.

Anyways, back on topic, I'll get a hat for my mesmer, and that's all I need, I don't need 8 hats.
Because...

Wintersday is not Xmas, its the Tyrian New Year Holiday. Thus making it a holiday everyone ingame can enjoy... once again its not xmas.

Moa Bird Cultist

Moa Bird Cultist

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hastings (UK) / Latham (USA)

Freedom Fanatical Scots [FFS]

E/W

Sucks to be someone who plays from an internet cafe, (which will be closed on, yes you guessed it, 01/01/2007 - ie, a small minority which just happens to include myself But I'm not at all bitter that I'll never get any of the winter hats, not at all. After all, as a minority speaker, I don't count. At all.

(Actually, I'll probably be round a friend's house on new years day, so I'll either hijack their PC or lug my own 2 tonne beast over there, but even so, it raises the question: Why deny hats to anyone who won't have internet access on the 1st of January? Is it criminal that some people don't have any way of getting internet access at home? And by that, I mean, are the people without access the ones to blame?)

Oh and Lykan, everyone here has a right to state their opinions and if they want to complain, even if no one agrees with them, they have the right to do that as well. As long as they have a rationale behind the complaint, then all the more reason to voice their opinion. And yes, the above is a complaint, but as you can see, I have a very good reason for it- there are surely people less fortunate than myself who are going to be in a similar situation. Somebody has to consider them, you know?

Njaiguni Blaze

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Because...

Wintersday is not Xmas, its the Tyrian New Year Holiday. Thus making it a holiday everyone ingame can enjoy... once again its not xmas.
Yes, but he doesn't want to mention the word "Christmas" because he doesn't want to offend anyone. I don't see how you can offend somebody by saying some event starts on Christmasday. That was my question I'm not saying that I think Wintersday should be associated with Christmas (after all, it's game), I'm just wondering what's offensive about Christmas. Lawl, think it's funny though.

Btw, what about the people who couldn't attend the Halloween event, the double fame weekend, the triple green weekend etc etc? They can't statisfy everyone. I mean, come on, do you want appearances of Grenth and Dwayna for every player alone? Give me a break, it's just a item in a game.

peffy

peffy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Paradise of Idiots

Mo/Me

My question is, why are they limiting it to 9 visits? Increasing it to 12 or even 24 visits in one day would be helpful to a lot of people. Even better, make the hat acquisition a 2-day deal. Give out hats every one/two/three hours on both Jan 1 and Jan 2. I think a lot of people would be satisfied with that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Njaiguni Blaze
Since when is the word Christmas offending?
There's no such thing as "Christ" in Tyria Really, calling it Wintersday is just more generic and .. open to all cultures. The same way that "Happy Holidays" is a more politically correct version of "Merry Christmas".

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

I got two hats from last year event. Both Santa hats but don't know if this years, it would have two different version (santa and raindeer hat) per side.

Koraschuth Lucifaan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by peffy
My question is, why are they limiting it to 9 visits? Increasing it to 12 or even 24 visits in one day would be helpful to a lot of people. Even better, make the hat acquisition a 2-day deal. Give out hats every one/two/three hours on both Jan 1 and Jan 2. I think a lot of people would be satisfied with that.
I completly agree, with the amount of characters most of us have now this would make the event a lot easier and much more enjoyable. Getting all the hats is going to be even worse this year if they do the same thing they did for halloween: new hats for tyria and new ones for elona. If this happens there is the possibility to be 4 new hats (since you get different ones for grenth and dwayna) that some of us will want to get for our characters. With the new holliday storage, Im betting more people will actually try to collect them now too. But even with district jumping, it will be almost impossible to get the most out of the final event. Besides after a while rushing to get to each event really kills the fun. Would be much easier with either a visit every hr or by adding an extra day.

navatar1

navatar1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

An RV made from a luxon turtle shell

E/

People should quit complaining about special events, I'm really glad they're doing this again. while I am mildly disappointed there wont be any boardwalk type stuff in the monastery, it doesn't matter that much to me, I'll have plenty of fun with the snowball fights

I may have missed a good portion of the finale last year, but I was more than satisfied that I was able to get one hat. I don't need one of every type of hat for every char of mine. QUIT WHINING about not being able to get headgear for every last one of your chars, and just get them for your main! And if you can't be home to play during the event, just leave your comp on afk in la. You'll get a hat and can show it off all you want later.

Its scrooges like you whiners who take the joy out of fun events like this.

Njaiguni Blaze

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by peffy
There's no such thing as "Christ" in Tyria Really, calling it Wintersday is just more generic and .. open to all cultures. The same way that "Happy Holidays" is a more politically correct version of "Merry Christmas".
Again, I never said Wintersday should be associated or called christmas. It just bothers and wonders me that I see people saying that saying christmas would be offending. I dunno, don't care really I think. And I wouldn't know how to call christmas anything else, since holiday is a collecting word for every other holiday. Politically correct? I can say merry christmas to a muslim or asian or atheist or whoever, and I think (s)he'll respond in the same way. I mean, christmas isn't really about the birth of Jesus Christ anymore to many people, it's just celebrating love and peace and getting together with family and friends. Most people even associate presents. (if I understood/remember correctly, Jesus wasn't even born on christmas(eve)) And santaclause? Hmpf, he's just a stolen version of our sinterklaas! Well, at least taken from/based upon. Sorry for the waaaaay off-topic.

Back on topic: how many people really want each hat for each and every character they play? I mean, get one a santa's hat, one a reindeer horns (what do you call them?), another one a pumpkin hat and the next one a wicked hat. What's the big merry deal?
Oh, and happy Xmas to everyone in advance , but for me, it's my birthday first on the 22nd ^^

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Anyone has any ideas what the holiday items will be this years? Also is the event any different from last years one where you stand there to listen to Grenth or Dwayna while collecting boxes and doing other stuffs to win presents?

Njaiguni Blaze

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher
Anyone has any ideas what the holiday items will be this years? Also is the event any different from last years one where you stand there to listen to Grenth or Dwayna while collecting boxes and doing other stuffs to win presents?
http://www.guildwars.com/events/inga...k6/default.php

natuxatu

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

It's an even item. Sorry but if you're not there I don't think you should get something that symbolizes an event you weren't even a part of. That's how I feel about it.

I missed Halloween last year... why shouldn't I be able to get that helm which was different from the pumpkin helm this year. All in all.. I think you should have to be there.

english storm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

I really do enjoy the events, it keeps the game fresh with something new to aim for. However i hope it's not like Halloween where i had to pick which hat i wanted It would be great if there is other ways to get the festive head gear (like the dragon hat) but i understand thats not really feasible for every event.

Maybe they could stagger the arrival of the "person" giving out the item. Say they turns up at 12.00 in the districts numbered 1-5, then 12.05 in the districts numbered 6-10 etc etc . I think this would be a better solution then the current way because the way it is now was fine when people had only 4 characters but as there's 3 chapters out people myself included struggled to get a hat for each character...

Dyeane

Dyeane

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Siege Turtles [ST]

I am pretty disappointed myself as I will be out of town that day. I'm hoping a guildie can snatch one for me.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by peffy
My question is, why are they limiting it to 9 visits? Increasing it to 12 or even 24 visits in one day would be helpful to a lot of people. Even better, make the hat acquisition a 2-day deal. Give out hats every one/two/three hours on both Jan 1 and Jan 2. I think a lot of people would be satisfied with that.
It uses up extra server bandwidth.

Zoey Raine

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by natuxatu
It's an even item. Sorry but if you're not there I don't think you should get something that symbolizes an event you weren't even a part of. That's how I feel about it.

I missed Halloween last year... why shouldn't I be able to get that helm which was different from the pumpkin helm this year. All in all.. I think you should have to be there.
thats not true.. the event is for like what a week so people might be there for the event for like 4 days and not there at the end.. so, they were still part of the event. They still were part of it somehow.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoey Raine
thats not true.. the event is for like what a week so people might be there for the event for like 4 days and not there at the end.. so, they were still part of the event. They still were part of it somehow.
It is like saying that just because I visited the States I've shaken the president's hand before. Either you are there or you aren't. There is no such thing as being "part of it somehow".

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
so we have a choice.... either celebrate new years eve or play gw to get a hat... gg
No, it really i s gg, because this isn't a matter of making a choice, this is a matter of reading a calendar. Wintersday is New Year's Day. No matter how much you celebrate New Year's Eve, I'm quite confident you can make it into the game during one of 9 events over 24 hours on the day after the traditional "party event" date.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jade
K, lemme get this straight. The hat event is happening on January 1st right? Isn't that a full 24 hours after New Years Eve? So, say the average person goes off to a new years party at around 8pm on December 31st. Gets hammered and passes out by about 3am. Said person wakes up roughly 6-8 hours later (roughly by noon on January 1st). Wouldn't that leave several hours in which to get a hat?
Bingo!

When you understand the finale, and you understand the way the new holiday hat system works, I think you'll be even more cheered. Let me see if I can put up notes on that tomorrow.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Pffft. Responsible people have designated drivers when they go out drinking so why can't you have a designated logger on-ner if you're going to be too hammered to log onto GW to get a hat?

Zoey Raine

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by generik
It is like saying that just because I visited the States I've shaken the president's hand before. Either you are there or you aren't. There is no such thing as being "part of it somehow".
that didnt make sense to me either.. LOL.. but at the end its still a game and its still a hat all i was saying is i think everyone should atleast have a chance to get one.. thats all lol

count your fingers

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Scotland

Looking

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ernada
Pffft. Responsible people have designated drivers when they go out drinking so why can't you have a designated logger on-ner if you're going to be too hammered to log onto GW to get a hat?
I think the main problem with that is that it's against the rules. Afaik it's a no-no to give someone else your password.

As far as I can see, people's problem with this (or mine, at least) is that they're having to decide between which character of theirs will get the customised items. I don't know how the event will work, but if there are only 9 occurences, assuming you can be online for all 9, gives you a total of 9 hats. Assuming a person has all 3 campaigns merged, means 8 character slots.

So if, like last year, there are two different hats to collect, you get a total of 16 hats, with only 9 chances to get them. Tbh I'd prefer to see items like this customised for the account rather than the character. This would allow people to get the items without having to choose which character would receive them.

Then again I haven't had much of a chance to read up on the Festival this year so my figures are quite likely to be wrong. ^^

natuxatu

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoey Raine
thats not true.. the event is for like what a week so people might be there for the event for like 4 days and not there at the end.. so, they were still part of the event. They still were part of it somehow.
and thus then can get some of the items but not all... what's more important rl or gw? I'll let each person come to their own conclusion. Either way by what gaile said it seems though that are absent might still be in luck... we'll see.

Dmc1281

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

HOBO

R/E

Just a quick question on the winterday activities.

I don't get too much time and would like to know if I need to collect anything to get the hat on the last day, or is it just needed to be in the circle like haloween.

And like haloween do I get something even if I am AFK? the times, if they are every 3 hours, will be pretty much when I am getting up and leaving for work.

I missed the fun last year and I really want to experience some of the fun this year, even if I can't attend the finale.

Moa Bird Cultist

Moa Bird Cultist

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hastings (UK) / Latham (USA)

Freedom Fanatical Scots [FFS]

E/W

Pfft, the internet cafe I play GW from is open on new years eve, but closed on new years day... So yeah, I'm definitely hijacking a friends computer, as mine is so full of copper heatpipes etc that it's a right sonova to carry