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NO Nightfall guide by Prima, thanks ANet

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PhineasToke
PhineasToke
Lion's Arch Merchant
• #1
I was concerned that there was no Nightfall guide to this point. I enjoy them, especially when looking closely at new weapons when they are being sold by players.

So I typed a note to Arena Net to see when it is available.

This was their reply;

Hello,

Thank you for contacting the Guild Wars Support Team.

We did not produce a Guild Wars Nightfall Strategy Guide, and one is not planned. While prior to the release of Guild Wars Nightfall we considered creating such a guide, we found that with the rapidly changing nature of the game, it was not be possible to produce a guide and release it within a reasonable time frame. Therefore, the project was cancelled and no guide was created.

We appreciate that players enjoy a strategy guide, and we have some ideas for a future project that will help fulfill that desire. We do not yet have formal plans in place, but we will share those with the community if we should make a decision to move forward with such a project.

Regards,

The Guild Wars Support Team

What crap. EVERY edition of Guild Wars is constantly changing. And there was NO problem releasing guides for the first two. I hate bull crap and condescending responses when I am willing to (along with tens of thousands worldwide) pay my good money for a guide.

I hope monkeys fly into their lunch room and piss in their lunch.
Shadowspawn X
Shadowspawn X
Jungle Guide
• #2
Old news Gaile addressed this about 2 weeks into Nightfall cause the Prima site had mentioned it was canceled. You must have missed the threads, it just wasnt feasable anymore. do to the "just in time" development schedule.but yeah it sucked but then again so did the last guide. The Factions guilde was horrible just a glorified skill list. So they probally did us a favor rather than producing another crap guide.
N E D M
N E D M
Desert Nomad
• #3
leaf through your copy of prima's guide for the first guild wars . . . . .
the only useful portion is the maps of the missions . . . . .
EVERYTHING ELSE is different, including the enemies in the missions.
After a couple updates the guides just produce misinformation.
EPO Bot
EPO Bot
Desert Nomad
• #4
Who needs paper guides when you have this wonderful litlle thing called INTERNET?
K
Kaane
Frost Gate Guardian
• #5
Um, why the hell would you want that?

http://gw.gamewikis.org/

That's all you need.
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noblepaladin
Krytan Explorer
• #6
The strategy guides become outdated and inaccurate right after they go to print, I have no idea why you want to buy one. Players who have played Prophecies and Factions know better than to look at a printed guide for information, because they realize how much the game gets updated. It is so much easier to go to guildwiki or some other site and get much more comprehensive and accurate information.

Also, they probably receive a lot of complaints about inaccurate guides, and they know that this guide will probably sell worse than the first two. Anybody who uses the guides will quickly find that it is based on a pre-release version of the game. Usually strategy guides get a "final" version of the retail game and help from the developers to make the guide before the game gets released to stores (because it takes a long time to edit and print the guides). However, Guild Wars games usually have major patches the day the game gets released, so already the guide contains inaccurate information.
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realoddsman
Academy Page
• #7
The only gameguides ive ever bought were for Final Fantasy 7 (that guide was so flawed, but the pictures were nice), and Riven (That game was insanely puzzling).

Other than that, I was willing to buy the Prophesies guide to find out where to get Conjure Flame/Lightning via a quest, and it was listed as attainable. But alas, that was an error.
shardfenix
shardfenix
Banned
• #8
Luckily, there's a player's guide you don't have to pay for.

www.guildwiki.org
Cacheelma
Cacheelma
Desert Nomad
• #9
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhineasToke
What crap. EVERY edition of Guild Wars is constantly changing. And there was NO problem releasing guides for the first two.
Yeah.....and god knows what CRAPS the first two guides have become a few weeks after released.

I'm glad they don't bother to waste time on it this year.
twicky_kid
twicky_kid
Furnace Stoker
• #10
What's the point everything is on fansites for free? I'll keep my money.
Riotgear
Riotgear
has 3 pips of HP regen.
• #11
Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
What's the point everything is on fansites for free? I'll keep my money.
I dunno, evidently there's still a market for them. Even with practically everything you ever wanted to know being on GameFAQs (or in WoW's case, Thottbot), game guides still sell. Some people want something they can flip through without alt-tabbing or spending an hour printing, I guess. How that's worth $20, I dunno.
zankoku
zankoku
Frost Gate Guardian
• #12
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhineasToke
What crap. EVERY edition of Guild Wars is constantly changing. And there was NO problem releasing guides for the first two.
Exactly. They produced the first two guides and realized the constantly changing nature of the game didn't make sense to produce a third.

As other posters have already mentioned, www.guildwiki.org has pretty much everything you need from the guide, including mission walkthroughs, skills info, weapon and armor skins, runes and upgrade info, NPC info, and obviously more. AND, it's constantly updated AND FREE.
PhineasToke
PhineasToke
Lion's Arch Merchant
• #13
Sorry, I didn't realizre that my preference for a guide was so absurd. Next time I'll keep it to myself.
Knightsaber Sith
Knightsaber Sith
Furnace Stoker
• #14
Here's Prima's take on the situation:
http://forums.primagames.com/showthread.php?t=62
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prima mod
Hi all,

Sorry for the belated reply. We've all been busy here crunching through the holiday titles, but we should have posted an explanation earlier.

While we had high hopes for publishing a guide on this title, both Prima and Arena Net agreed that it would be impossible to get an accurate guide created in time to release with the game. The heavy emphasis on PVP action in Guild Wars is the key component of the game, and it requries constant tweaking and balancing, even after the game master has been sent off to duplication. For Arena Net, this means providing Prima with massive daily updates on changes to the statistics, abilities, and spells. Even with a high level of quality control, it's impossible to ensure 100% accuracy, as changes are made after the book goes to print.

We are currently working to evaluate continuing publishing opportunities, and this thread would be a great place to get some feedback from you guys. What would you find useful? Mission walkthroughs and maps for Nightfall? Spells and abilities compendium? A reference book for character builds?

Your feedback is important to us, and we need it in order to provide you with the most useful books possible. Communication is a two-way street, and we apologize for letting this thread go unanswered for so long.

Now post your wish lists for the ultimate Guild Wars strategy compendium!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prima mod
Yes, we are indeed listening, and are working on something now. As you're probably all aware, these machinations are always top secret in the games industry until all of the paperwork is done. I have tried to respond to everyone who sent me an e-mail personally, and am keeping a list of the people I'll be sending guides to. You can hopefully expect a formal announcement shortly.

We can understand the frustration, but please keep in mind that we licensed this product and did everything within our power to get a guide published at the time of the release. We were just as disappointed as you guys were when the guide was cancelled.

The feedback on content has been valuable, and we look forward to incorporating these suggestions into our future Guild Wars products.

Happy holidays, everyone. Sorry we put a lump of coal into your stockings.
FalconDance
FalconDance
Jungle Guide
• #15
Sorry, Phineas. Most people whine and complain because the Prima guides are so inaccurate (for GW)!
N
Navaros
Forge Runner
• #16
Don't know why anyone would be angry that Anet had the goodwill this time to save them $20 - 40 (depending on your currency) of real money on what would essentially have been a useless piece of crap guide.
Rakeris
Rakeris
Frost Gate Guardian
• #17
I don't see the point of a guide either, I never buy them. Why buy one when you can get all the info and then some in a few clicks...
Shadowfox1125
Shadowfox1125
Forge Runner
• #18
GW is constantly changing through the updates, so the paper guides are inaccurate.
Yanman.be
Yanman.be
Banned
• #19
Oh em gee! I got an idea!

I'm going to be famous because I'm going to invent paper that updates itself if you plug it in to the internetz!! Oh wait...that's www.guildwiki.org...
CyberMesh0
CyberMesh0
Jungle Guide
• #20
While I'm not as... energetic about the issue as the OP, I happen to prefer to have a paper copy of such a guide that I can take elsewhere, where the internet might not be available :-p especially for nightfall, there are plenty of things that do not change significantly that I would have readily paid the $20 for. (let's not forget the MAP- the collectors edition one is nice but it pales in comparison)