Doctor Olias Goes to Hell
Free Wind
Have you ever witnessed what a weapon of mass destruction can do? Or may be you’ve seen carpet bombings on the battlegrounds? Seen towns devastated by a bubonic plague? No? Well, while I don’t recommend seeing such things in real life, you still have a chance of checking it out in virtual reality – not much needed for it – just take Doctor Olias with you when you leave town next time. Oh, and make sure he takes his first-aid set with him!
The following is what he should put into his medicine chest:
Animate Bone Horror (15e – 3s – 5r)
Animate Bone Fiend (25e – 3s – 5r)
Animate Shambling Horror (15e – 3s – 25r) – these guys will cause bleeding (we WILL need it!)
Virulence (Elite) (5e – 1s – 15r) – key medicine in Dr Olias’ first-aid kit
Epidemic (5e – 1/4s – 5r) – share virulent love with friends!
Signet of Lost Souls (0e – 1/4s – 8r) – must have for a necro
Blood of the master (5e – 1s – 2r) – heal your dead pets
-- Optional – (Dr Olias keeps Power Drain in there)
Attributes:
16 Death - never less for a minion master
13 Soul Reaping - nice energy return
Now let me just tell you what happens on the battle fields when I take doctor Olias with me (and I never leave home without him!). The moment I click on the ‘Dismember’ skill, I hear Olias say:
“Hey Mr None (my IGN), watch it! I told you not to swing your axe like this! Look what you’ve done! Dammit, how many times did I tell you axes may hurt people!? Now this little margonite cleric is deeply wounded!
…. Hold on mister, I know CPR! Here, take this nice little pill, it says ‘If a patient is suffering from a condition…’ and I clearly see you’ve got a condition on you! Here, swallow it, here you go, good boy… oh, wait wait… don’t take it if you haven’t already… the instruction says: “Virulence is known to have side effects like Disease, Poison, Weakness and finally… death… ” oh... sht… let me try another pill ‘Epedimic’… oh sht… don’t you die on me mister… ohhh… well… don’t you worry! I can revive people! I can bring people back to life! Let me cast one of those animate spells… “
I can swear I hear those he treats yelling out loud: “OMG YOU HAXOR!!111!! I WILL REPORT YOU TO ABBADON!!!! OMG” and then /ragequitting into the oblivion
Doctor Olias is a very careful doctor. If he sees someone burning, he tries to extinguish it with virulence; if he sees someone wounded, he tends to their wounds with virulence; if he sees crippled, blinded, weakened foes, he mends it with his magical panacea called “Virulence” and enhances the effect with Epidemic.
Try it out. This build is solid and has been tested in many areas. Thirsty River is like a kindergarten for a three-people team (me being a warrior, a hero monk and Olias). If you happen to farm lightbringer points in Domain of Secrets you’ll feel sorry for all those margonites Olias dispatching in packs
PS: Since I never played Necromantic myself, I first had to get the idea of a decent build for a MM, which I found to be posted here by Zinger314, so credit for the initial build goes to Zinger314
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Mr None
The following is what he should put into his medicine chest:
Animate Bone Horror (15e – 3s – 5r)
Animate Bone Fiend (25e – 3s – 5r)
Animate Shambling Horror (15e – 3s – 25r) – these guys will cause bleeding (we WILL need it!)
Virulence (Elite) (5e – 1s – 15r) – key medicine in Dr Olias’ first-aid kit
Epidemic (5e – 1/4s – 5r) – share virulent love with friends!
Signet of Lost Souls (0e – 1/4s – 8r) – must have for a necro
Blood of the master (5e – 1s – 2r) – heal your dead pets
-- Optional – (Dr Olias keeps Power Drain in there)
Attributes:
16 Death - never less for a minion master
13 Soul Reaping - nice energy return
Now let me just tell you what happens on the battle fields when I take doctor Olias with me (and I never leave home without him!). The moment I click on the ‘Dismember’ skill, I hear Olias say:
“Hey Mr None (my IGN), watch it! I told you not to swing your axe like this! Look what you’ve done! Dammit, how many times did I tell you axes may hurt people!? Now this little margonite cleric is deeply wounded!
…. Hold on mister, I know CPR! Here, take this nice little pill, it says ‘If a patient is suffering from a condition…’ and I clearly see you’ve got a condition on you! Here, swallow it, here you go, good boy… oh, wait wait… don’t take it if you haven’t already… the instruction says: “Virulence is known to have side effects like Disease, Poison, Weakness and finally… death… ” oh... sht… let me try another pill ‘Epedimic’… oh sht… don’t you die on me mister… ohhh… well… don’t you worry! I can revive people! I can bring people back to life! Let me cast one of those animate spells… “
I can swear I hear those he treats yelling out loud: “OMG YOU HAXOR!!111!! I WILL REPORT YOU TO ABBADON!!!! OMG” and then /ragequitting into the oblivion
Doctor Olias is a very careful doctor. If he sees someone burning, he tries to extinguish it with virulence; if he sees someone wounded, he tends to their wounds with virulence; if he sees crippled, blinded, weakened foes, he mends it with his magical panacea called “Virulence” and enhances the effect with Epidemic.
Try it out. This build is solid and has been tested in many areas. Thirsty River is like a kindergarten for a three-people team (me being a warrior, a hero monk and Olias). If you happen to farm lightbringer points in Domain of Secrets you’ll feel sorry for all those margonites Olias dispatching in packs
PS: Since I never played Necromantic myself, I first had to get the idea of a decent build for a MM, which I found to be posted here by Zinger314, so credit for the initial build goes to Zinger314
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Mr None
Effendi Westland
I loved Virulance the few times I used it in RA. I'm using the Golem elite on my hero MM atm, but that is because I never took my necro to Cantha and my hero has no real need for it (but it is cool to have the big one with you:P ).
Will try this out, sounds like great fun. And great way to discribe a build
Will try this out, sounds like great fun. And great way to discribe a build
Hengis
I like the sound of this build, but more than that, the way the original post is worded made me laugh :-)
Good job!
Good job!
Francis Crawford
Funny writing ftw!
But let me follow up on the hard news in your build. Are you saying that Olias does a good job of chaining Epidemic right after Virulence?
But let me follow up on the hard news in your build. Are you saying that Olias does a good job of chaining Epidemic right after Virulence?
Free Wind
Since Olias is still a computer-controlled idiot, he sometimes messes with the right sequence and casts Epidemic before Virulence, but hey, having 4-5 enemies with a nasty condition is better then having only one, isnt it? Then again, Virulence lasts for 20 seconds, while Epidemic recharges in 5 so he still has chance to cast it again
Moreover, you can take Epidemic yourself as well (it is not bound to any attribute). Feel free to show Olias how to use it correctly (poor innocent mobs being a lab rabbits for ya there) - "You see Olias, that is not the right way to kill that innocent diseased, bleeding, weakened and poisoned creep down there, look how it is done (click Epidemic) - Share the love with his friends, mate, dont be shy"
Moreover, you can take Epidemic yourself as well (it is not bound to any attribute). Feel free to show Olias how to use it correctly (poor innocent mobs being a lab rabbits for ya there) - "You see Olias, that is not the right way to kill that innocent diseased, bleeding, weakened and poisoned creep down there, look how it is done (click Epidemic) - Share the love with his friends, mate, dont be shy"
Insert Cool Name Here
Build sounds solid except you have no energy coming in. Drop curse to 10 or 11 and make soul reaping 10. Also drop friend and replace with dark bond, even at 0 blood you have 30 secs of 75% damage reduction. No reason to have 3 minions, especially when you are looking for bleeding from your minions.
Free Wind
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Originally Posted by Insert Cool Name Here
Build sounds solid except you have no energy coming in. Drop curse to 10 or 11 and make soul reaping 10. Also drop friend and replace with dark bond, even at 0 blood you have 30 secs of 75% damage reduction. No reason to have 3 minions, especially when you are looking for bleeding from your minions.
Oops sorry for the mistake - of course I ment soul reaping 13, not curses (there is not a single curses skill in the build)
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Oops sorry for the mistake - of course I ment soul reaping 13, not curses (there is not a single curses skill in the build)
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boxterduke
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Originally Posted by Free Wind
Epidemic (5e – 1/4s – 5r) – share virulent love with friends!
LOL
Very funny and made my day.
Very funny and made my day.
Tarus From Taros
Instead of taking Powerdrain why not Leech Signet? If you are keeping the attributes at that then that leaves 3 left over for inspiration. So in that case Power Drain will only provide you with 2 energy upon use due to its 5e req whereas leech signet will not only give you 5 energy if it interrupts a spell but it can also interrupt any action.
The only downside to leech is the 30 sec CT vs 25 sec CT on PD. Even still a worthwhile switch is it not?
The only downside to leech is the 30 sec CT vs 25 sec CT on PD. Even still a worthwhile switch is it not?
Free Wind
Power Drain is not there for energy - 13 soul reaping keeps him full. As for the Leach Signet - I think you're right... there is never a limit to a perfection
Patrick Smit
Its sounds like something to try, but what against torment creatures?
I prefer they spike on one, instead of doing alot of AoE with the risk of uncontrolled summoning of new torment creatures.
I prefer they spike on one, instead of doing alot of AoE with the risk of uncontrolled summoning of new torment creatures.
Franco Power
hehe i like you, funny guy
Crazyvietguy
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hehe i like you, funny guy
Me too! i hope to see you in game someday! Seems like you would be a ball to adventure with.
ArianeB
Great Build!
Put him with other heroes that also carry multiple conditions:
Jin or Margrid with Broadhead Arrow, Pin Down and Apply Poison
Norgu with Conjure Phantasm, Crippling Anguish and Mantra of Persistence
I play an SF Ele mostly so this would be a good compliment too.
Put him with other heroes that also carry multiple conditions:
Jin or Margrid with Broadhead Arrow, Pin Down and Apply Poison
Norgu with Conjure Phantasm, Crippling Anguish and Mantra of Persistence
I play an SF Ele mostly so this would be a good compliment too.
wilebill
After a couple of days using this build for Olias, I have to say it's the bomb, and a nuke at that! Friends trying it agree! Simply a superb build that simply melts the opposition away. Thank you!
majeh456
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Originally Posted by Free Wind
…. Hold on mister, I know CPR! Here, take this nice little pill...
Not to be a jerk or anything, but you only use CPR on someone who has no pulse, and/or isn't breathing...works for a choking unconscious person too...but the chances at bringing someone back with CPR is pretty slim...
That aside, I like the build quite a bit. It kind of reminds me of a daze epidemic ranger.
That aside, I like the build quite a bit. It kind of reminds me of a daze epidemic ranger.
Father of Mir
Having played with Mr None before I can also vouch for this build.
The only problem one might encounter is a bit of boredom since once the minion army reaches critical mass there is little left to do except race the minions to the next enemy or "spam" LB gaze.
PS: He's also a really nice guy to play with, controlled, disciplined and always willing to listen to ideas and comments.
The only problem one might encounter is a bit of boredom since once the minion army reaches critical mass there is little left to do except race the minions to the next enemy or "spam" LB gaze.
PS: He's also a really nice guy to play with, controlled, disciplined and always willing to listen to ideas and comments.
strcpy
First off, great narrative style - enjoyed reading it quite a bit.
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Originally Posted by Free Wind
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PS: Since I never played Necromantic myself, I first had to get the idea of a decent build for a MM, which I found to be posted here by Zinger314, so credit for the initial build goes to Zinger314
One of the things that the heroes really have done for this game (to me) is make me interested in learning some other builds. I hate support builds, hate them with a passion. No doubt they are not only useful, but required, I just detest playing them. Heroes have given me a great chance to play with those builds and learn from them. It has opened a whole new part of the game (plus with them only needing unlocks I can test some builds with them I would have to spend quite a few gold and skill points on).
I also like taking a few "Go for the Eyes" spammers. Especially if my main is a melee character, a barrage Ranger, Dervish, or Cyclone Axe warrior can usually spam "GftE" quite a bit and the AI doesn't do it as often as I would like. At 9 command a 57% chance of a crit with all those nice undead running around - well even my MM necro thinks pretty hard about being a paragon secondary and adding another GftE spam.
Dr Olias finishes both internships and grad school to not only become a MD, but an MD PhD
I also like taking a few "Go for the Eyes" spammers. Especially if my main is a melee character, a barrage Ranger, Dervish, or Cyclone Axe warrior can usually spam "GftE" quite a bit and the AI doesn't do it as often as I would like. At 9 command a 57% chance of a crit with all those nice undead running around - well even my MM necro thinks pretty hard about being a paragon secondary and adding another GftE spam.
Dr Olias finishes both internships and grad school to not only become a MD, but an MD PhD
Andrew_
very nice build idea. and the way you described it, very entertaining and funny! You make us just want to suit up our own Olias's with this build just because of your wording. You could probably make r11's think that mending+frenzy is the next FotM build!
Nanood
Im not a MM master by ANY stretch of the imagination so feel free to negate this suggestion.
A few time (not many) when olias bit the dirt I found myself with bunch of undead to fight as well.. I used Verata's Gaze in the empty slot and found with a quick rez olias had most of them under control again.
Just a maybe suggestion from a non MM expert.
A few time (not many) when olias bit the dirt I found myself with bunch of undead to fight as well.. I used Verata's Gaze in the empty slot and found with a quick rez olias had most of them under control again.
Just a maybe suggestion from a non MM expert.
gilgameshx
Great build, the only problem is trying to getting the shambling out then waiting for it to die to become jagged. I instead ran a build with...
[skill]Animate Bone Horror[/skill][skill]Jagged Bones[/skill][skill]Death Nova[/skill][skill]Putrid Flesh[/skill]
I tried using Bone minions since you get two level 13 minions but they died too quickly. Too quick enough for Olias to try cast Jagged Bones, death nova and putrid flesh on both monsters. Olias did get better using Death Nova but not the best. Still turning your minions into Jagged Horrors causing bleeding while damaged by death nova then poisoned and diseased at the same time. Hmm, now I wonder how epidemic is going to do with this.
[skill]Animate Bone Horror[/skill][skill]Jagged Bones[/skill][skill]Death Nova[/skill][skill]Putrid Flesh[/skill]
I tried using Bone minions since you get two level 13 minions but they died too quickly. Too quick enough for Olias to try cast Jagged Bones, death nova and putrid flesh on both monsters. Olias did get better using Death Nova but not the best. Still turning your minions into Jagged Horrors causing bleeding while damaged by death nova then poisoned and diseased at the same time. Hmm, now I wonder how epidemic is going to do with this.
XanderWhilkes
I've been using a variant of this build on my MM heroes and find it very effective. Since I almost always have a Searing Flames Hero, there is no need to wait for the bleeding to use Virulence/Epidemic.
I didn't have Virulence yet, so I took my Mesmer and Heroes to easily capture an elite that would have been difficult in the past without the Heroes.
Thanks for this!
I didn't have Virulence yet, so I took my Mesmer and Heroes to easily capture an elite that would have been difficult in the past without the Heroes.
Thanks for this!
Crazyvietguy
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Originally Posted by Nanood
Im not a MM master by ANY stretch of the imagination so feel free to negate this suggestion.
A few time (not many) when olias bit the dirt I found myself with bunch of undead to fight as well.. I used Verata's Gaze in the empty slot and found with a quick rez olias had most of them under control again.
Just a maybe suggestion from a non MM expert. Well, i suggest putting Olias in Defense so he doesnt take a whole bunch of damage. Or you could leave him at attack and take dark bond (blood magic skill). It should help him stay alive.
A few time (not many) when olias bit the dirt I found myself with bunch of undead to fight as well.. I used Verata's Gaze in the empty slot and found with a quick rez olias had most of them under control again.
Just a maybe suggestion from a non MM expert. Well, i suggest putting Olias in Defense so he doesnt take a whole bunch of damage. Or you could leave him at attack and take dark bond (blood magic skill). It should help him stay alive.
Free Wind
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Originally Posted by Crazyvietguy
Well, i suggest putting Olias in Defense so he doesnt take a whole bunch of damage. Or you could leave him at attack and take dark bond (blood magic skill). It should help him stay alive.
I agree, Minion Master rarely dies when a lot of his minions are still alive. If it happens too often then there is something wrong with the agro management, build or play style
wilebill
With build as OP except of Reaper's Mark as elite, Olias MM rarely dies. With a small party size, getting started is always a bit dicey, but once the minion army is built he seems fairly durable. Using inscriptions that add armor based on number of minions.
Asrial
Can this build be run auto by the AI or does it require user input?
OMFGimCUTE
ha i love how you wrote that
pug_ster
How about using death nova and taste of death?
azathothx
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How about using death nova and taste of death?
Heroes won't ever kill minions.
ez90ing
Hey there nice built for Olias. Tried it myself and it's got a great impact. For far i have yet to get the elite for Dr. Olias, Virulence.
However i found that most of the mana that Dr. Olias gets from Soul Reaping, Signet of Lost Souls and Mana Drain are used to make minions. He can only take 10minions and everytime a creature dies he makes another and replace the old one, which in this case is a full health one. This somehow "waste the usage of mana"
Is there a another skill i can put in to deal more dmg? So Dr. Olias can use his mana more to target enermy. No experience on mm here !!
However i found that most of the mana that Dr. Olias gets from Soul Reaping, Signet of Lost Souls and Mana Drain are used to make minions. He can only take 10minions and everytime a creature dies he makes another and replace the old one, which in this case is a full health one. This somehow "waste the usage of mana"
Is there a another skill i can put in to deal more dmg? So Dr. Olias can use his mana more to target enermy. No experience on mm here !!
azathothx
I've been trying out this build recently and i dont think it's particularly great. Monsters in PvE dont really last long enough to be bothered with virulencing them. I find it to be a waste of Olias' resources and a Jagged Bones+Death Nova combo is more than enough to keep a rolling army of poisoning minions. Disease usually only ends up putting strain on your tanks and your monks and Olias has a habit of never using Virulence on the correct (ie. most hp/strongest) foe. He usually wastes it on some puny little monster who was going to die in two sconds anyways. For a minion master there are far better elites to use than poorly targetting condition overkill.
ez90ing
What would you recommend bro...^ ? I do not have golem cos i have yet to get Factions. I have Nightfalls tho...
Moa Bird Cultist
I'm using thread necromancy on this post, because the initial idea is far too good to be just forgotten. Since I got Virulence, I don't ever leave home with Dr Olias and his sometimes assistant, Nurse Sousuke (Apologies if that put a vile image in anyone's head ^^ )
- Tain -
With my tank I soloed margonites for awhile to get masks for collector weaps for my heroes. After a bit, I added Olias in with a build similar to this... I'd kill a couple, then let him come in and start casting virulence/epidemic everywhere. The degen conditions + deep wound spread around definitely sped things up enough to more than make up for the 1/2 drop rate from having a partner. Not to mention the army of minions that started following us around, too...