PvE and multiple campaigns
mntlchaos
It seems that the continual expansion of the amount of PvE content is making it harder and harder to find groups. Back when guild wars started, it was fairly easy to find groups to do side quests. Now it's impossible. The only quests one can realistically get a group for are primary quests and missions. This seems to be due to the density of players diminishing greatly. What can be done about this?
Deleet
Heroes. Already been done.
Nexus Icon
Heroes don't work for Unwaking Waters 
mntlchaos
Okay. Why bother with a multiplayer system then?
Opal Bridewood
A nice guild where people enjoy playing with eachother is a nice work-around the problem. I think being in a guild that suits your expectations/playstyle will get more and more important as new chapters roll out.
Sekkira
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Originally Posted by Nexus Icon
Heroes don't work for Unwaking Waters
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mntlchaos
That's my point. There's still the possibility to do stuff by yourself or with your guild. However, it's practically impossible to find a PUG for anything not on the main storyline path.
explodemyheart
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Originally Posted by Nexus Icon
Heroes don't work for Unwaking Waters
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Opal Bridewood
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Originally Posted by mntlchaos
That's my point. There's still the possibility to do stuff by yourself or with your guild. However, it's practically impossible to find a PUG for anything not on the main storyline path.
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mntlchaos
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Originally Posted by Opal Bridewood
(except when I go back to Tyria/Cantha, where there are some quite nice groups, if you pay attention what group you join).
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Jetdoc
Heroes are both a catalyst and a solution to the problem, unfortunately.
This weekend I tried to do Vizunah Square (Foreign Quarter), and I tried for over an hour to get together a PuG that did not contain either a hero or henchmen. People are using them to round out groups (which is good due to the spreading out population), but they are also using them instead of playing with other players (i.e. many of the people I tried to invite to my PuG already had 7 hero/henchmen loaded up and ready to go).
It's a difficult problem A-Net is going to have to address sooner rather than later...there are many players who simply don't want to play with NPC's, but are increasingly being forced to do so, even in earlier stages of the campaigns.
This weekend I tried to do Vizunah Square (Foreign Quarter), and I tried for over an hour to get together a PuG that did not contain either a hero or henchmen. People are using them to round out groups (which is good due to the spreading out population), but they are also using them instead of playing with other players (i.e. many of the people I tried to invite to my PuG already had 7 hero/henchmen loaded up and ready to go).
It's a difficult problem A-Net is going to have to address sooner rather than later...there are many players who simply don't want to play with NPC's, but are increasingly being forced to do so, even in earlier stages of the campaigns.
Francis Crawford
I don't think you can or should force anybody to play with other people.
Jetdoc
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Originally Posted by Francis Crawford
I don't think you should force anybody to play with other people.
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It's a tough issue for A-Net to address, especially with the older campaigns.
Effendi Westland
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Originally Posted by Nexus Icon
Heroes don't work for Unwaking Waters
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Would have gone with the PuG that was forming, but they weren't patient enough to wait for my mate.
geekling
Don't forget that they've announced a promised party-search system this December. (http://www.guildwars.com/press/relea...2006-12-13.php)
So I guess we're in a wait and see what effect this has on the game period at the moment.
So I guess we're in a wait and see what effect this has on the game period at the moment.
Jetdoc
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Originally Posted by geekling
Don't forget that they've announced a promised party-search system this December.
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RTSFirebat
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Originally Posted by Nexus Icon
Heroes don't work for Unwaking Waters
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Heros and henchmen work fine on that mission, just make sure to pack plenty of the interrupts.
Patrick Smit
A "big" or dedicated PvE guild can solve that problem. You just need to be tighly connected somehow, and not all guilds are formed of bands of brothers.
Btw Unwaking waters is one of the eassiest missions with henchies. Often easier than wrongly composed, strategy ignoring, and rushing people, making it much more difficult then needed.
Btw Unwaking waters is one of the eassiest missions with henchies. Often easier than wrongly composed, strategy ignoring, and rushing people, making it much more difficult then needed.
geekling
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Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Yep - I'm anxiously awaiting that upgrade...hopefully there is a selection criteria that allows you specifically request no NPC's, master's level completion, etal.
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The thing that makes me a bit hesitant about expecting too much from this new upgrade is the bolded phrasing below. As it is phrased, it sort of implies that the new party-search will be limited to a few PvE quests and missions. If that is correct it'll probably be endgame and elite areas only.
Which would not be so good, at all.
Still better to wait and see what it actually does before making any judgement on its usefulness.
"Party Search — A brand new Party Search panel will be added to Guild Wars this December, which will allow players to more easily form groups. Casual and hard-core gamers alike will benefit from this new system, as it will make it easier for players to form parties for some of the tougher quests and missions in the game, find the last cog needed for a fearsome group that can tear through the PvP arenas, or just connect with old friends online to go explore the diverse Guild Wars world."
Ninna
anyone remember Factions?
People didnt ask for Sidequests help in Factions (on mainland)
- cant just blame heroes
plenty of people were playing Factions on release too
Most people prefer grouping for *only* Primary Quest/Missions
People didnt ask for Sidequests help in Factions (on mainland)
- cant just blame heroes
plenty of people were playing Factions on release too
Most people prefer grouping for *only* Primary Quest/Missions
Nexus Icon
Fair play, yer right, I just henched it without a single hero or another player around, AND I was assassin...
icedragon981
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Originally Posted by Ninna
anyone remember Factions?
People didnt ask for Sidequests help in Factions (on mainland) - cant just blame heroes plenty of people were playing Factions on release too Most people prefer grouping for *only* Primary Quest/Missions |
