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Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 01:28 - 1

The "6" slot in the Snowball fight corresponds to a profession specific skill. Since we've had 4 new professions since the last Wintersday, what are these new skills?

I've found 2:

Paragon:

That ability is completely and utterly useless, since you are never in earshot of your Allies that often. And you don't get much benefit. Would have worked better at 200% speed.

Ritualist:

Yes, that's right, a Spirit! It summons a snowman named Jack Frost. I believe he attacks more frequently, since he has no aftercast delay. But, you can only have 1 of each within a certain range (like all other spirits)

What are the Dervish/Assassin skills?

Mouser

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Defenders of Gods

N/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 01:33 - 2

The Jack Frost spirit is BRUTAL... especially when they plant him in your base.

Glitched

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 01:33 - 3

The Assassin gets Side Step. You shadow step to a location in the area and get healed for 50. Not jaw-dropping but the recharge is fair enough.

fripple

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 01:37 - 4

The assassin skill is worthless. Teleports you like two feet in a random direction and heals you for one snowball.

The rit skill is great, though.

-.-

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 01:39 - 5

The Ritualist skill is going to be so much fun...

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 01:44 - 6

Dervish apparently have a unique skill for each side:

Avatar is a normal Grenth. The skill sucks, since 5 health is nothing where everyone has 400 health.

I presume there's an Avatar of Dwayna, can anyone tell me what it is?

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

You want see?

True Gods of War [True]

Mo/W

21 Dec 2006 at 01:50 - 7

The Assassin's is Side step. you teleport to a random location, and get 50 health.

beanerman_99

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the clouds

[Sage]

E/

21 Dec 2006 at 01:53 - 8

My ele had a skill similar to Ice spikes. It does damage and slows enemy down. Also, it seems some of my skills are random. One battle I have Yellow Snow and the next its replaced with Avalanche. Anyone else?

Glitched

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 01:54 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by beanerman_99

My ele had a skill similar to Ice spikes. It does damage and slows enemy down. Also, it seems some of my skills are random. One battle I have Yellow Snow and the next its replaced with Avalanche. Anyone else?

If you spawn on Grenth's side you have Yellow Snow, on Dwayna you have Avalanche.

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

You want see?

True Gods of War [True]

Mo/W

21 Dec 2006 at 01:54 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by beanerman_99

My ele had a skill similar to Ice spikes. It does damage and slows enemy down. Also, it seems some of my skills are random. One battle I have Yellow Snow and the next its replaced with Avalanche. Anyone else?

We are discussing the new class skills, many of us know about the old ones, and if not, can visit guildwiki.

yes, avalanche and yellow snow change.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

21 Dec 2006 at 01:54 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by beanerman_99

My ele had a skill similar to Ice spikes. It does damage and slows enemy down. Also, it seems some of my skills are random. One battle I have Yellow Snow and the next its replaced with Avalanche. Anyone else?

You get Yellow Snow on one side, and Ava on the other. It just decides on what team you randomly get on.

Also the ice spikes like skill is old, from last year.

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

21 Dec 2006 at 02:01 - 12

Sweetness! My rit will be going in here tomorrow!

GOd that skill rocks!

TheGuildWarsPenguin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Los Angeles, California

Picnic Pioneers

E/

21 Dec 2006 at 02:42 - 13

Avatar of Dwayna: For 30 seocnds, you get 10 health each time you use an attack skill.

Servant of Kali

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Me/

21 Dec 2006 at 10:33 - 14

rotfl so imbalanced, but as a huge fan of Rt i love it

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

21 Dec 2006 at 10:38 - 15

lol its just for fun, it dont need to be balanced

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

21 Dec 2006 at 11:51 - 16

heh Rits get a great skill, I'm going to make one just for Snowball PvP

thanks A.net

Aegeroth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, AUS.

Sons of Dark Magicians [SoDM]

N/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 11:57 - 17

Lol, delete afterwards Firebat?

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

21 Dec 2006 at 12:08 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aegeroth

Lol, delete afterwards Firebat?

Well I have a Level 18 Rit, which is being used as a Mule at the moment. Now would be a good chance to level her up in the Snowball Arena and make use of the Spirit skill in the meantime

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 12:42 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

I presume there's an Avatar of Dwayna, can anyone tell me what it is?

Makes you wish you had the Paragon skill. It is like the Avatar of Grenth but 50x worse because it only heals you for 10 on throwing.

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

21 Dec 2006 at 14:05 - 20

This is not a discussion of the merits of making CCshards available through the Snowball Arena.

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

21 Dec 2006 at 15:08 - 21

wow my mule rit can come out and play again =). poor guy has been stuck at guild hall for about 5 months already.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

21 Dec 2006 at 15:43 - 22

The best special skills, IMO...

1. Warrior. Only speed boost in the game, where speed is most important.
2. Elementalist. A snare that can't be removed by Yellow Snow.
3. Monk. Makes monks logical present runners, as those knocking them down won't be able to snag the present, as they get knocked down as well.
4. Ritualist. A little bit more offense to guard key movement points.
5. Necro. A nice effect for someone that is about to die. Too bad many players are using this at full health.

I can't find a good use for the Ranger, Mesmer, Assassin, Paragon or Dervish skills, yet.

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

21 Dec 2006 at 17:08 - 23

Mesmer... interrupts and causes blind for 10 secs.

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 17:12 - 24

lol! it's like RA, a Rit on your team unbalances it in your favour. It's like having an extra player.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetdoc

I can't find a good use for the Ranger, Mesmer, Assassin, Paragon or Dervish skills, yet.

For the mesmer skill, I don't think the Blinding is useful since Snowball is a spell? They key is a 1/4 sec interruption. Use it to protect the present runner from knockdowns/snares.

The others do seem useless.

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

21 Dec 2006 at 17:21 - 25

Mesmer is nice for interrupting Hidden Rock.

Hidden Rock -> KD -> Steal Present -> Interrupt previous runner's HR -> run away.

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 17:27 - 26

I tried playing warrior, ele, mesmer and monk (would try a rit but don't have one) and mes seems to be the most powerful by a long shot.

In a game where the key skill is 2s cast, being able to shut it down 100% of the time is brutal. The interrupt is really powerful. If I'm carrying a present and have one person chasing me, he's never getting that present because he never gets to knock me down :P It's possible to defend against two as well, but really hard to tab between two targets while running a present... and if they both decided to use hidden rock at the same time and actually use it correctly (i.e. point-blank range to pick up the present) not much you can do about that...

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 17:29 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetdoc

5. Necro. A nice effect for someone that is about to die. Too bad many players are using this at full health.

Not really. You instant-res, so the health which you use it at makes no difference.

If you place the Holiday Blues in a stratigic location, such as the Icy Ground near the presents or the enemy bases, you can cause the enemy team to be affected by a LOT of degen.

kade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Currently residing in ToA dis 1

Mo/

21 Dec 2006 at 19:10 - 28

so far mo/war teams seems to be the best...tho from my experience Avalanche can make or break a battle.

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

21 Dec 2006 at 19:18 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

Not really. You instant-res, so the health which you use it at makes no difference.

If you place the Holiday Blues in a stratigic location, such as the Icy Ground near the presents or the enemy bases, you can cause the enemy team to be affected by a LOT of degen.

Also a very good way of persuading people to leave their 'ice-forts' as well.

blackbird71

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

21 Dec 2006 at 20:04 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetdoc

The best special skills, IMO...

1. Warrior. Only speed boost in the game, where speed is most important.
2. Elementalist. A snare that can't be removed by Yellow Snow.
3. Monk. Makes monks logical present runners, as those knocking them down won't be able to snag the present, as they get knocked down as well.
4. Ritualist. A little bit more offense to guard key movement points.
5. Necro. A nice effect for someone that is about to die. Too bad many players are using this at full health.

I can't find a good use for the Ranger, Mesmer, Assassin, Paragon or Dervish skills, yet.

I haven't played the snowball arenas since last year, so this is a little dated, I don't know if anything has changed. The Ranger skill, Flurry of Ice, was decent to hit a group chasing your present carrier. Not great, but decent. The real advantage to Rangers was pets - when you had twice as many players on your team because everyone had pets, it was a bit of an advantage. Granted they couldn't use skills or anything, but they could get in the way and help surround a carrier if used right.

Mesmer should be obvious. An interrupt at the right time can save your present carrier from being hit by a mega snowball or an avalanche. Also, the blind can take someone out of comission long enough to score.

getalifebud

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

N/

21 Dec 2006 at 21:03 - 31

Yeah its imbalanced between classes and sides, but im only going to complain when im using my paragon to fight for grenth. I'm suddenly using my rit again, praying for dwaynas side.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

21 Dec 2006 at 21:24 - 32

paragon skill = junk, 2 second cast and small range is ridiculous.

rit = jack frost is great, but somewhat overrated, I've blown by most teams with a rit without a problem. it's a good skill though, the damage catches the noobs who don't get away from it off guard.

also, I posted about the rather ridiculous imbalance between grenth and dwayna on another site. summary:

"* Dwayna(Blue) - Avalanche - Spell. Target foe and all nearby foes are Crippled for 10 seconds. Cast time 1sec. Recast 30sec.

Excellent skill. Has a good chance of slowing an enemy down, which is all important because then people can hit them with all manners of knock downs and other things.

* Grenth(Red) - Yellow Snow - Glyph. Lose one condition. Your next snoball causes disease. Cast time 2sec. Recast 4sec.

Pointless skill. The disease effect is really not that useful. The cast time is absolutely skill breaking because you are losing important tactical mobility and defenseless.

What do you all think? Personally I think Grenth should get a realistic cast time for what it is... a one condition cure, and a barely felt degen on the enemy. I think 1/2 sec cast, with recast bumped to 15 sec would be better, although still disadvantaged, since you're only countering an enemy, not striking. The best solution would then be:

Yellow Snow - Transfer all current conditions and remaining duration to target enemy. cast time 1sec. recast 30 sec."

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

21 Dec 2006 at 21:31 - 33

In a team, in which a friend of mine and I erm, *Ahem**Cough*Randomly*cough* were in the same group. I was rit, he was necro.

Place jack by other team's avatar, and place Holiday blues there also, kinda raped pressie runners...

and when we got 2 warriors, CAMPING! What fun!