dwarven vs. crystalline
Dutch Masterr
i know that dwarven axes and crystalline swords are 2 of the rarest weapons in the game but which one is actually more rare? now i know you all are going to say crystalline swords are the rarest, but i belive dwarven axes are more rare. out of 10 months of playing guild wars, ive seen at least 50 different people with crystalline swords and i frequently see people spamming WTB and WTS for them in towns. now, out of those 10 months ive never seen anyone (except the dwarves in droks) with a dwarven axe and ive only seen somone spamming WTS once....crystalline swords may be more expensive, but are they actually the rarest? dwarven axes are less (i think) but are they not as rare as crystalline swords? in my opinion, i think dwarven axes are actually more rare but less money and crystalline swords are more money but a bit more common compared to dwarvens.
-LiamB
Crystallines are the rarest, and with that rareity, they are much more saught after by players than Dwarvens Axes/Hammers, henhce you see more.
Crystallines are rarer, just more people want them.
Crystallines are rarer, just more people want them.
FeroxC
Dont forget Serpent axes(not sephis), how often do you see people selling them?
People say Crystalline is the rarest but i could go in game now and find one within 10-20 minutes a dwarven axe is another story.
People say Crystalline is the rarest but i could go in game now and find one within 10-20 minutes a dwarven axe is another story.
Tingi
A max dmg tyrian sickle is easily the rarest.
Dev121
No real way to say which is rarer , if you have trouble finding one then this could be because there rarer but it could also be there more popular so they sell less and are taken of market quite quickly . 
Skuld
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Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121
No real way to say which is rarer , if you have trouble finding one then this could be because there rarer but it could also be there more popular so they sell less and are taken of market quite quickly .
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Kaane
On the other hand, Crystallines are hideous but Dwarven Axes actually look cool.
I laugh whenever I see a warrior with a crystalline sword because I know he spent stupid amounts of cash for it yet could have gotten something that actually looks good for a fraction of the amount.
I laugh whenever I see a warrior with a crystalline sword because I know he spent stupid amounts of cash for it yet could have gotten something that actually looks good for a fraction of the amount.
milias
I too am not a big fan of Crystallines. Dwarven Axes look okay, but I'm a simple man, I actually like War Axes better, go figure >.<
Hand of Ruin
I tend to agree, but only Anet can know for sure...
I'll stick with my victo's for a while though.
I'll stick with my victo's for a while though.
Akhilleus
let me put it this way.
as someone who makes it a mission to catalogue extremely high end weapons; i know of far more perfect (r8, perfect dmg mods) crystallines than dwarven axes.
to be specific; i know of X9 r8 15>50 crystallines, the most popular mod; 4 of which reside on active accounts.
in comparison i know of only X3 r8 15>50 dwarven axes; NONE of which reside on an active account.
i know of X5 8 15.50 serpant axes, 3 of which reside on active accounts.
i myself own several crystallines (including a r8 15>50), and 2 dwarvens; r9 15>50 and r9 15 -5.
i own 3 serpent axes; r8 15>50, r8 20<50, r8 14% no cond.
however, to be fair, crystallines are worth more, so its more likely that an owner will sell one. and it is FAR more likely that i will learn of the existance of one if it changes hands; but for the most part, the information i've provided is pretty damn accurate (as far as it concerns the general population), and a pretty good indication of their rarity.
what this indicates is that overall i would say crystallines are rarer than either; but you're more likely to come across one; simply because of the popularity inherent in their rarity.
as someone who makes it a mission to catalogue extremely high end weapons; i know of far more perfect (r8, perfect dmg mods) crystallines than dwarven axes.
to be specific; i know of X9 r8 15>50 crystallines, the most popular mod; 4 of which reside on active accounts.
in comparison i know of only X3 r8 15>50 dwarven axes; NONE of which reside on an active account.
i know of X5 8 15.50 serpant axes, 3 of which reside on active accounts.
i myself own several crystallines (including a r8 15>50), and 2 dwarvens; r9 15>50 and r9 15 -5.
i own 3 serpent axes; r8 15>50, r8 20<50, r8 14% no cond.
however, to be fair, crystallines are worth more, so its more likely that an owner will sell one. and it is FAR more likely that i will learn of the existance of one if it changes hands; but for the most part, the information i've provided is pretty damn accurate (as far as it concerns the general population), and a pretty good indication of their rarity.
what this indicates is that overall i would say crystallines are rarer than either; but you're more likely to come across one; simply because of the popularity inherent in their rarity.
unienaule
Hey, Akh, I must be retarded or something, because I don't get what you're saying. You say there are more crystallines than dwarvens, but that crystallines are rarer? Maybe it's just me, but could you explain what you mean a bit better?
Malice Black
Dwarverns are rarer IMO..more and more Crystallines drop every day from the quest reward chests.
Carinae
I've found (and sold) many more Crystallines than Dwarvens, so I'd say Dwarven is significantly more rare then Crystalline.
However..... the demand for Crystallines is very high, and the demand for Dwarvens is rather low. Hence, Crystallines are more profitable.
However..... the demand for Crystallines is very high, and the demand for Dwarvens is rather low. Hence, Crystallines are more profitable.
ryanryanryan0310
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i myself own several crystallines (including a r8 15>50), and 2 dwarvens; r9 15>50 and r9 15 -5.
i own 3 serpent axes; r8 15>50, r8 20<50, r8 14% no cond.[QUOTE]
r8 14% no cond serpent.
Low req Dwarvens are rarer. Haven't seen a good inherit mod req 8 one in a long long time for sale..
i myself own several crystallines (including a r8 15>50), and 2 dwarvens; r9 15>50 and r9 15 -5.
i own 3 serpent axes; r8 15>50, r8 20<50, r8 14% no cond.[QUOTE]
r8 14% no cond serpent. Low req Dwarvens are rarer. Haven't seen a good inherit mod req 8 one in a long long time for sale..
Dev121
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Max tyrian sickles don't exist, and I have white dwarvens, so I think there is a way to tell.
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HolyHawk
Dwarven axes seems to be a little rarer. I found one in the chest after completing fow forge, purple, 14^50, and another shity mod. The look still compensates anything, it's pretty cool.
frojack
It's so unfair that I have to wade through the mud of HA to actually get a chance at a decent Gold Dwarven (well without re-mortgaging the house). If only Gold Dwarvens dropped elsewhere. I really couldn't care less for the crummy looking Crystaline's. How did something so ugly become so popular?
In my time, I've seen a number of Crytalines selling in game. Never ever seen anything more than a 'WTB' for a Dwarven...
PS: If you do a search on Guru, you'll see a fair few have gone for sale.
In my time, I've seen a number of Crytalines selling in game. Never ever seen anything more than a 'WTB' for a Dwarven...
PS: If you do a search on Guru, you'll see a fair few have gone for sale.
Ranger Rog
One thing I have always wondered, why are all these ultra rare weapons all for Warriors, sure there are rare skins for other classes, but these rarest of rares are all warrior weapons.
exiled mat
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One thing I have always wondered, why are all these ultra rare weapons all for Warriors, sure there are rare skins for other classes, but these rarest of rares are all warrior weapons.
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but yes, warrior's do get the rarest skins
Gun Pierson
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One thing I have always wondered, why are all these ultra rare weapons all for Warriors, sure there are rare skins for other classes, but these rarest of rares are all warrior weapons.
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On topic, I think dwarven axes are in lower number on the market. I don't know if they're more rare than crystalines but I do have the impression.
Scf Blacknight
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i own 3 serpent axes; r8 15>50, r8 20<50, r8 14% no cond.
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garethporlest18
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Don't forget the platinum wand. Very rare. One with the suiting mods is almost impossible to get your hands on. Another example is a perfect ghostly staff. Those 2-3 different class types mods on one stave are not helping either.
On topic, I think dwarven axes are in lower number on the market. I don't know if they're more rare than crystalines but I do have the impression. |
Yichi
Then my req 9 ghostly thats still 10/10 (never updated with the new gold staves) must be worth a fotrune
Akhilleus
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Hey, Akh, I must be retarded or something, because I don't get what you're saying. You say there are more crystallines than dwarvens, but that crystallines are rarer? Maybe it's just me, but could you explain what you mean a bit better?
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also, from what i've seen, there are probably more lower-level serpants/dwarvens than crystallines; but in terms of availability, less higher end ones (though the latter is probably due to my aforementioned reasoning).
in terms of the numbers of items i know to exist, you'd think dwarvens and serpants are rarer, which may be possible, but i do believe it is because of their lesser marketability (and thus, price) that leads them to not be on the front page of of the sellers list.
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Screen Shot please, never seen one myself.
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Mesmer in Need
what does the actual weapon look like, and not just the wording...?
Akhilleus
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what does the actual weapon look like, and not just the wording...?
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Mesmer in Need
not that i know of, no. i dont even know where they drop...
ShadowsRequiem
Dwarven is much rarer then the crystalline
The Rarest Weapon is A max dmg Tribal axe.... yes No one have ever found one.
The Rarest Weapon is A max dmg Tribal axe.... yes No one have ever found one.
Akhilleus
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Dwarven is much rarer then the crystalline
The Rarest Weapon is A max dmg Tribal axe.... yes No one have ever found one. |
max dmg tribals, and ch1 sickles, do not exist.
thus, they are not the rarest.
and if you want to be all-inclusive...no conds take the cake.
garethporlest18
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a weapon is only rare if it exists.
max dmg tribals, and ch1 sickles, do not exist. thus, they are not the rarest. and if you want to be all-inclusive...no conds take the cake. |
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I'm pretty sure I saw a white Tribal axe being passed around in the Forum before...
Although, Akhilleus is telling the truth, this axe doesn't exist because is gone with it's owner.
Although, Akhilleus is telling the truth, this axe doesn't exist because is gone with it's owner.
puteh
i like dragon scythe
Crom The Pale
There are actually quite a few of both floating around. The biggest diffence ive noticed is that the Crystalines trade more openly and the Dwarven trade between people that know each other and how much there actually worth.
I have a guildie that has bought and sold both high end Crystaline and Dwarven and he would never bother to post the Dwarven in game since its unlikely that anyone in the dist would be the one person that could afford it.
The crystaline on the other hand tend to be sold more ingame since more low end versions are desired by people, the high end ones trade mostly on forums or between friends.
In the future the 'Rarest' weapons will likely be Zodiac items as fewer and fewer people will be venturing to the Deep and many of those existing now will wind up on inactive accounts.
As for looks, to each there own! I find Dwarven axes ugly and Crystaline cool.
Note: I paid 5k for my Crystaline
I have a guildie that has bought and sold both high end Crystaline and Dwarven and he would never bother to post the Dwarven in game since its unlikely that anyone in the dist would be the one person that could afford it.
The crystaline on the other hand tend to be sold more ingame since more low end versions are desired by people, the high end ones trade mostly on forums or between friends.
In the future the 'Rarest' weapons will likely be Zodiac items as fewer and fewer people will be venturing to the Deep and many of those existing now will wind up on inactive accounts.
As for looks, to each there own! I find Dwarven axes ugly and Crystaline cool.
Note: I paid 5k for my Crystaline
Akhilleus
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In the future the 'Rarest' weapons will likely be Zodiac items as fewer and fewer people will be venturing to the Deep and many of those existing now will wind up on inactive accounts.
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because of the laws of supply vs demand; if the demand for zodiacs ever got high enough that they warranted a high sell-price, people would merely return to the deep to farm them in order to get that high price, and in turn, drive the value back down.
this is made simple, because of the ease and speed in which they can be farmed.
i am fully confident that unless zodiac skins are discontinued entirely(which is pretty darn unlikely) they will never again see the high prices that they commanded in the first few days people were able to get access to elite ch2 mission areas.
Marth Reynolds
Crystallines are way more commen to be seen wielded by players then dwarven axes are, so for rarity in amount of people having one dwarven axe will surely win.
but to determine the rarity of the crystalline is rather hard atm, due to the popularity of it.
in drop rarity i'm not sure wich is the rarest but myself i did find a dwarven axe but no crystalline (yes could all be random luck).
ow and zodiac's will never be the rarest due to the chests in the begginning area, even with 2 people and 6 heroes you should be able to reach one chest and open it.
but to determine the rarity of the crystalline is rather hard atm, due to the popularity of it.
in drop rarity i'm not sure wich is the rarest but myself i did find a dwarven axe but no crystalline (yes could all be random luck).
ow and zodiac's will never be the rarest due to the chests in the begginning area, even with 2 people and 6 heroes you should be able to reach one chest and open it.
Malice Black
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not that i know of, no. i dont even know where they drop...
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KESKI
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I too am not a big fan of Crystallines. Dwarven Axes look okay, but I'm a simple man, I actually like War Axes better, go figure >.<
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"simplicity is its own beauty"
I am more of a "Iron and Steel are a knights' beauty" person
back to topic, base on the trade I see so far, it seems Dwarven Axes is rarer. But a lot of crystallines in the markets r not perfect.
Diddy bow
What about salient daggers ive never seen one sold and i want one
all in all i think as far as perfects go drawven is rarer not seen a gold r8 perf in ages
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and that short sword is pimp...
all in all i think as far as perfects go drawven is rarer not seen a gold r8 perf in ages
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and that short sword is pimp...
keke_
A few months ago I won halls 25+ times every night for a week straight...
3 serpent axes and 1 crystalline sword dropped no dwarvens at all
so i think dwarven is rarer
3 serpent axes and 1 crystalline sword dropped no dwarvens at all
so i think dwarven is rarer
lacasner
Hmm..I would say dwarvens are more rare, yes. I don't know if there is a req.8 15^50 dwarven, I would like to see a pic of one.
On a side note though, Akh did you get that unconditional serpent from a drop or did you buy it recently?
On a side note though, Akh did you get that unconditional serpent from a drop or did you buy it recently?