Defensive Anthem

AscalonWarrior

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

Mo/

Is this really worth of being an elite?

[skill=big]Defensive anthem[/skill]

If you compare it to Aegis

[skill=big]Aegis[/skill]

Aegis has 5 seconds longer recharge time, but lasts 1 second longer (and even longer with 20% lnoger enchantment mod). Aegis can be stripped, but Defensive Anthem ends if party member hits with an attack skill.

So, imo Defensive Anthem is not worth of being an elite.

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

It can't be stripped, so it needs its elite status. Not worth taking instead of something else is probably the better words.

clawofcrimson

clawofcrimson

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Crimson Claw

W/

there is no shout that can be stripped....

i agree...this skill should be buffed/ or made a non elite ...with minor nerf

Spura

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skuld
Not worth taking instead of something else is probably the better words. Yep and that's the way with many paragon elites:

Anthem of Guidance(unless you are rangerspike)
Cautery Signet (pwned by martyr or extinguish)
IJAFW (pwned by RC)
Song of Purification(Extinguish again)
and so on...

AscalonWarrior

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spura
Yep and that's the way with many paragon elites:

Cautery Signet (pwned by martyr or extinguish)
I actually use Cautery Signet with Remedy Signet Really nice Condition removing.

clawofcrimson

clawofcrimson

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Crimson Claw

W/

ok...im going to start a thread on condition removal....so we stop getting off track.. ;/

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

Differences between the two:

Aegis requires you to put points into Protection Prayers. Defensive Anthem requries you to put points into Leadership. Hopefully, you'll be using more Leadership skills than Protection Prayers.

Aegis takes longer to cast and has a longer recharge time. As stated before, it is an enchantment, where Defensive Anthem is a Shout.

DA is an elite, unlike Aegis.

DA ends prematurely if ally uses an attack skill. Not all allies have attack skills, and big deal if they use it before it ends (as long as they don't use it as soon as its placed on them).

DA gives the Paragon more energy back for each party member affected (because its linked to Leadership).

DA can also be used to affect echos too (when a shout or chant ends, the echo may be renewed or the effects of an echo may be activated).

Minions have no attack skills, so they can have it just like Aegis.

Hope this gives you some other things to think about when compairing the two skills.