Gain Gamer Points, even if you lose.

Ken Dei

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

Due to the influx of players in the snowball fight, there is not an inconcievable amount of complete and utter morons, who can't even grasp the basics of the game. (The "good" teams are already IN the arena tearing it up.)

This makes it incredibly hard to get gamer points for the title due to the fact that, at the moment, you have to win to get them.

So please, A.net, allow the losing team to get Gamer Points equal to the amount of points they scored during the match, that way at least whatever effort was put in by the players is recognized. Besides the title does say gain points for participating in games, not winning them.

That or activate other games, please...

Now I'm off to go write a guide for these sad, sad individuals who just don't get it.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

I like the idea, but it promotes leeching.

Mister Muhkuh

Mister Muhkuh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Germany

Ugly Ducklings [ugly]

P/

so you want to change noobs for afkers??

/doh

puteh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

you want noobs to do their bad jobs(afk)

Ken Dei

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

Put it to you this way, right now, it's so bad, they might as well not be there. Besides, people are leeching for Balth. Faction as is. I rather have some reward for putting up with it and losing then totally waste my time.

Not A Fifty Five

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Creating guild

Mo/

agreed. The average age for the people snowballing seems to be 8. Or maybe thats I.Q...

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

Change it so you get 1-5 gamer points(points can be changed by amount to make fair) for each gift you give to your god. No leeching is available since they would need to actually get the gift and go give it to their god, and it still evens out for everybody.

I think that could keep everyone happy.

Not A Fifty Five

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Creating guild

Mo/

eh, I could see people letting their teammates die so they can pick up the present for the point tho

Xtroll

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Norway

Helmguard Elite

Mo/Me

/notsigned

The title is not that hard to get, you only need 100 wins. It's no requirement for constructive.

And everyone got a hard time until they get on a good team, it's Random Arena remember. So good players get on good teams because they try a lot of times.

I got the skillz title the first day, and halfway to pro skills, and I still had time to play a lot of PvE aswell.....

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

maybe if you're within a certain range of the avatar when the point is scored, you can get a gamer point then. it still forces the afk to move, making leeching pointless, and if you didnt actually deliver the present but you helped with it, you still get some gamer points. plus, it would promote teamwork because the team grouping back up to get the gamer points are going to protect him more.

Thalion Galad

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

hi all

if anet make it like this:

for each gift delivered to the avatar = 2 skillz point
so the winning team allaways get the 10 points

look more rewarding for the losing team....

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thalion Galad
for each gift delivered to the avatar = 2 skillz point
so the winning team always get the 10 points
I say if you personally deliver the presents, you get 2 points and anyone else on you team that's actually doing something gets 1 point (if anet can make it work like that).

Maybe you could get 1 point for every unique kill you make in a match as well.

mega_jamie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

UK

Warlords of Ruin

A/Mo

Gamer points when loose = leechers winning

Everybody would just idle, even if you knock it down to 1 point a game, its still only 1000 times somebody has to click on the button, and with whole teams idling, matches would be over before 4 mins had passed easy.

(unless everyone idled, then it would just last forever, and be funny.

anyway, /not signed, you can get a good group, its all about luck placement, ive had a couple of 10 streaks today getting good groups. Yes there are morons, but yes there are some decent players.

Ken Dei

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

Once again, to the short sighted people warning of leechers, there are already leechers in the arena. That's part of the problem. Though i do like some of the alternative suggestions that have been presented.

roalgumo7

roalgumo7

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tijuana, B.C., Mexico.

W/

Horrible idea, this would just bring lot's of afkers like they way.

Feathermoore Rep

Feathermoore Rep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

PM me for JACT Invite

Feathermoore Clan

R/Mo

I disagree. If it was changed so that the losing team gets 2 points per present then no matter what the afk'ers still lose. But this way its not a complete waste of 8 minutes in a battle that you lose 4-5.
However i still think that its not a hard title, (I'm less than 10 wins away) it would at least give people a small reward for trying.

Either way i doubt it will be changed.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Dei
Once again, to the short sighted people warning of leechers, there are already leechers in the arena. That's part of the problem. Though i do like some of the alternative suggestions that have been presented.

Make rewards for being active and involved no matter if you win or lose. Personal gain = more motivation to do your best.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

they aready removed a reward for losing

that point the arenanet beliavior on that

TheYellowKid

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mina Sucks [Blz]

honestly i dont get it.. why does everything have to be so easy? is no one willing to work for anything anymore?? You win u get a reward, u lose you dont its not hard to grasp, and like someone said its RA some days u cant find a good team and other days you'll pretty much roll over everyone you meet.

Idlers are bad enough without giving people more incentive to do it, fort aspenwood anyone?

As for getting points for giving presents, that doesnt promote team play you'll get everyone scrambling for presents to get extra points instead of watching each others backs like they should be doing

Skye Marin

Skye Marin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

E/A

Make the reward a personal venture, based on the game activities.

If you, personally, capture a gift, you get one point and perhaps the ability to get a consolation prize if you lose. If your team wins the game with 5 captures, you all win 10 points.

No leechers, no greifers.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

I dont like the idea of getting a point ONLY if you give the gift. You can help your team in other ways besides being the runner. Maybe if your team loses and you run a gift you get a gift also. A single shard maybe for each gift ran.

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

If ANet just allowed you to form teams this wouldn't be a problem. A lot of people including me leave when they have a team of noobs because we don't like to waste our time.

Soldat

Soldat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

TX

Fashion Police [chic]

Nah, I wouldn't bother giving points for participation. The event already started, and doesn't last long. Although the "Skillz" title is cool, it's not something most people strive for. You will have other holidays to work on that title if you want. For now, the Snowball Arena should just be for fun.

leguma

leguma

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Steel Phoenix[StP]

Me/

I've been playing for over 4 hours now and over half the teams I get when going in have a leech.

Is it that hard for Arena.net to notice a player that has a script to hit the enter mission button? Is it that hard for them to see that through out an entire game a player's client has sent out NO actions to the server?

This was just as bad when ABs came out, now it's worse because you only have a limited amount of time available to play these games. Those sorry sad ass programmers need to get off their asses and people need to start complaining because it looks like the devs don;t give a flying fsck.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by anonymous
If ANet just allowed you to form teams this wouldn't be a problem. A lot of people including me leave when they have a team of noobs because we don't like to waste our time.
then people will complain their random team get trashed by organized team.

and they cant join in organized team becouse they are full of elitism and stuff like this.

shardfenix

shardfenix

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]

Gamer points for losing? Wow now I can get that title with enter mission, afk, enter mission, afk, enter mission, afk.
/notsigned

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by shardfenix
Gamer points for losing? Wow now I can get that title with enter mission, afk, enter mission, afk, enter mission, afk.
/notsigned
...yup, I'm sorry, but we already have this problem with Aspenwood and Jade Quarry, as well as RA. Please don't spread the plague.

FelixCarter

FelixCarter

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by shardfenix
Gamer points for losing? Wow now I can get that title with enter mission, afk, enter mission, afk, enter mission, afk.
/notsigned
Why not? You already get good Balthazar Faction if you're a leech...

I think I already suggested that if you lose, your whole team should get 1 CCS, but people always respond with "IT PROMOTES TEH LEECHES LERN2PLAY N00B."

So, I think we should make it that when you lose, you also lose ALL the faction you earned during the snowball fight. That'll teach those AFKers, right? If you lose, you wasted your time because you get NOTHING! Everyone wins!

That's the Christmas spirit! Award the players that win, and take everything away from those that lose!

Hmmm... While we're at it, why don't we have a thing that appears under the "DEFEAT" text that says "Learn2Play, n00b".

Orphan Anthem

Orphan Anthem

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Kinetic Fusion [kF]

make kills/present return a perk kinda deal like in RA, not enough to make you wanna afk it but enough to make you want to try a little bit harder.

1 kill=1 point
1 present returned=1 points
1 win= 5 points

points based on work put it FTW


for me average for losing team due to -1 player is like idk maybe 1-5 kills and maybe 0-2 presents based on team ( i have been able to win 15 in a row during a 70 win streak but the team was just completly steller)

kingofrandom

kingofrandom

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

Deaths Fist

D/Mo

i think they should add a new game here or there, theres freakin like more than 10 districts in US, its rediculous. and yes losers should get some points because sometimes you just get stuck on a losing team, not full points but maybe half, and maybe, just maybe raise the winning points. otherwise good job on the wintersday celebrations

Stupid Shizno

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

[eF]

Mo/

eh, i see how "newbs" who play expecting to get this title get upset loosing and then wondering how they will get the title. and honestly, i do believe you should get a point for entering the arena, regardless of a win or not.

yes, you will get leechers and afkers. but so what, this "gamer" title is a pve title based on special events, do you honestly think it has meaning? stop trying to put meaning behind titles. theres not a single title in the game that can not be farmed, get over this elitism you all have for the titles.

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

Gaile stated tonight that there would be other ways to get Gamer points soon. They're just not activated yet.

nugzta

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Death3D
but so what, this "gamer" title is a pve title based on special events, do you honestly think it has meaning? stop trying to put meaning behind titles. theres not a single title in the game that can not be farmed, get over this elitism you all have for the titles.
It is PvP title, you play snowball against other players unlike UW wintersdays quests .... snowballing against NPCs.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Why not just auto-KICK afks? If game see you are not moving in 2 minutes = KICKED! and delete all factions or whatever that character wins in that 2 minutes.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

/Notsigned

Im already on 2000 points and havnt had a problem getting them. If im in a bad group I quit and go in again. And for me, 1 in 5 groups turn out to be perfect non moronic players.

So if its taking you more then 5 trys a time to get a good group, maybe your the reason the group isnt doing well?

What would be better, a lot better, and this has problably been mentioned enough times, is if we could make our own teams. 4 Skillz+ players on vent would be awesome.

Thalion Galad

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

humm!!!

So /quit is the solution...

You just got tomahawked

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

N/

/notsigned leeching...