I'll add my two cents in here- generally I run with three sets on my ele in pve:
dual 20/20 collectors sets
Rago's Staff
energy +15/-1 set
Generally in pve with heros there is always a br around so don't have to worry too much about energy- enemies are dead before i run out of energy.
As my first cast is generally meteor shower I like the extra chance of a speed up the dual 20/20 set gives. Then it's SF/other fire skills and by the time MS is recharged it's all over. If I'm not taking SF then i'll take glyph of renewal and throw out a MS every 15 seconds or so.
The point is, there is no answer to the question raised as there are so many different ele builds with differing requirements, not to mention hundreds of different scenarios. If you're lazy, then just packing Rago's is as good an option as any. BTW I have about 5m xp on my ele...
Rago's Staff: Rubbish or not? I say it is compard to....
Victory
Midnight Harmony
I love my Rago's Staff, it really helps with my Mesmer enchants, and it looks cool. It was also the first staff to use the dual head skin (to my knowledge).
Katari
There really isn't a need for an ele to use a +15e staff, let alone anything more. The same goes for +5e swords/spears, etc. It most certainly isn't worth using a major/sup energy storage rune.
If you want a 20% enchanting mod, either go with an armor/health staff head, or a sword/spear/etc with 10% recharge.
A good discussion is here http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10086688 With emphasis on Ensign's posts.
If you want a 20% enchanting mod, either go with an armor/health staff head, or a sword/spear/etc with 10% recharge.
A good discussion is here http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10086688 With emphasis on Ensign's posts.
Cacheelma
Sour grapes?
I mean, instead of bashing one pity green weapon, why don't we talk about weapon mods in general?
I mean, instead of bashing one pity green weapon, why don't we talk about weapon mods in general?
Former Ruling
I never saw Rago's as the optimal Mod setup for a Fire ele anyway...
Orphan Anthem
ok for PvP/Pve most players dont know exactly what to bring, but here goes
during basic combat you want the fastest cast time/recharge time possable and a main/offhand combonation that offers that is best. get the highest values you can.
second set is going to be usually your enchant casting combo for when you do attunes or enchantments of the like
+5 sword/axe/spear with 20% enchant with a offhand of 20% rehcarge of item attrabute or if its not the same attrabute go for 10% of all with +30 or 45+ enchant.
3rd must have is HIGH ENERGY main/offhand +15 -1 with whatever secondary you need (reccament rehcarge but health is good too)
if you want a 3rd go for a set that gives you max hp/defense
+5 energy with +5 armor or +30 hp with a shield +30 (or +45) with +armor of - damage
during basic combat you want the fastest cast time/recharge time possable and a main/offhand combonation that offers that is best. get the highest values you can.
second set is going to be usually your enchant casting combo for when you do attunes or enchantments of the like
+5 sword/axe/spear with 20% enchant with a offhand of 20% rehcarge of item attrabute or if its not the same attrabute go for 10% of all with +30 or 45+ enchant.
3rd must have is HIGH ENERGY main/offhand +15 -1 with whatever secondary you need (reccament rehcarge but health is good too)
if you want a 3rd go for a set that gives you max hp/defense
+5 energy with +5 armor or +30 hp with a shield +30 (or +45) with +armor of - damage
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Now you can get a 20/20/20/20 staff. Upside: one of those 20's is to all spells. Downside: you lose out on 2 energy. You can figure out from there which is better
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20% cast x 2?
what am i missing, i don't think thats possible. someone have a screenshot?
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I don't run one of the "best" cookie cutter builds either - I see no reason too.
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@ the guy bragging about only 2 mil exp: You really have no idea how many people are laughing at you right now because you think that means something.
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Mouse at Large
Personally speaking, with my current PvE setup I run 2 enchants. when I used dual attunes, I had 3 enchants, so my 20/20/20 crafters Insightful Fire Staff of Enchanting works fine for me 
Caelus The Fallen
45s.
If the match is longer than 45 seconds, the pip of regen is far better than the 15 energy the focus gives you in return.
If the match is longer than 45 seconds, the pip of regen is far better than the 15 energy the focus gives you in return.
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Sour grapes?
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What am I sour about?
Im not bashing the weapon in the slightest. Its a good weapon. I was comparing it to my choice of weapons and saying that I personally find it better.
That statement just made no sense.
Redfeather1975
It is weird to make an entire topic to call 1 weapon rubish.
Who cares so much about something like that?!?!
How much time was wasted arguing about this.
Who cares so much about something like that?!?!
How much time was wasted arguing about this.
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Im not following why you think I have sour grapes?
What am I sour about? Im not bashing the weapon in the slightest. Its a good weapon. I was comparing it to my choice of weapons and saying that I personally find it better. That statement just made no sense. |
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Rago > the OP
Divinus Stella
First, you cant get a staff with 20/20/20/20, the 20% recharge on a staff is global, which is great for builds where your using more than 1 attribute, but for fire eles its not much use.
Secondly, i dont think the OP needs to worry about weapons, i think theres serious problems with the attributes and skill setup, if aura of restoration is on your nuking skillbar and your only running 14 fire then theres some serious issues that need to be sorted before even thinking about getting a weapon set that doesnt restrict your energy regeneration.
Secondly, i dont think the OP needs to worry about weapons, i think theres serious problems with the attributes and skill setup, if aura of restoration is on your nuking skillbar and your only running 14 fire then theres some serious issues that need to be sorted before even thinking about getting a weapon set that doesnt restrict your energy regeneration.
Carboplatin
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First, you cant get a staff with 20/20/20/20, the 20% recharge on a staff is global, which is great for builds where your using more than 1 attribute, but for fire eles its not much use.
Secondly, i dont think the OP needs to worry about weapons, i think theres serious problems with the attributes and skill setup, if aura of restoration is on your nuking skillbar and your only running 14 fire then theres some serious issues that need to be sorted before even thinking about getting a weapon set that doesnt restrict your energy regeneration. |
Francis Crawford
Pre-Nightfall, my core build was dual Attunements, and I ran around carrying Rago's, then switching to a wand/offhand set to maximize the chance of HSR.
Now I just gave Rago's Staff to Zhed, because I haven't bothered visiting a collector yet to stock up on offhands, and heros are bad at energy management anyway.
Oh, and I didn't buy it; it was a gift.
So was my Kindlerock. My wife used to spend so much time in Sorrow's Furnance she should have bought a condo in Deldrimor Warcamp ...
Now I just gave Rago's Staff to Zhed, because I haven't bothered visiting a collector yet to stock up on offhands, and heros are bad at energy management anyway.
Oh, and I didn't buy it; it was a gift.
So was my Kindlerock. My wife used to spend so much time in Sorrow's Furnance she should have bought a condo in Deldrimor Warcamp ...
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What am I sour about and what in the title suggested I am?
Your suggesting im bitter about something concerning the weapon because I dont own the weapon?
Which im not.
I can more then easily make 60-70k to buy it if I was to sell stuff, so its not out of reach to me.
Your going to have to be a bit less vague about your statements.
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It is weird to make an entire topic to call 1 weapon rubish.
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And starting a debate about the usefullness of Rago's staff seems well within that catergory.
If you dont care about it, then dont read it or post a pointless comment such as that.
Not everything within this website has to meet your particular standards,, as to whats interesting to talk about and what isnt.
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I can more then easily make 60-70k to buy it if I was to sell stuff, so its not out of reach to me.
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Because the last I checked, this was a website to have conversation about anything concerning Guild Wars.
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Reporting this thread so a mod can close it before it turns into a flame war.
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Try harder then, it's not rocket science.
Being a noob, people pointing that out, and the rubbish part suggested that. He didn't. Good thing that you're not. And this bears any relevance, because? Or you can think more about what he, me and everyone else in the thread said. Yes, so why don't we start a thread about counting the amount of snow flakes that fall in Kamadan per minute? Every item is useful. Such as this thread, especially the OP (opening post, mind you). I love it when people can hand out advice, but never follow their own. Not everything within the game has to meet your particular standards.. as to what is useful to some elementalists and what isnt. Reporting this thread so a mod can close it before it turns into a flame war. |
No one was flaming anyone until you posted this. I apologise to that poster who I disagreed with and misunderstood.
And you do realise what calling someone sour actually means?
Sour grapes:
"pretend disdain for something one does not or cannot have"
www.dictionary.reference.com
My statement stating that its well within my grasp was relevant to the "sour grapes" comment. Hence the not understand why the other poster make such a statement.
Whether me saying the staff is rubbish makes me noobish in your opinion, is your opinion. Your welcome to it.
But if your unable to resort to a discussion about this and you need to resort to just calling people noob, then fine. It says bucket loads about you.
And your comparing me starting a debate about Rago's staff to talking about snow flakes ingame! So your not trying to blow this out of proportion much?
Lastly; if you dont like the subject of the thread, then again, dont post in it and blatenly try to sture a flaming war yourself.
bhavv
Firstly read the first two quotes that make me lol
And heres the complete truth regarding this matter, as stated by several people.
You are a very unexperienced elementalist if you dont have a need for +20% enchants, and still think that -1 energy regen is better.
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20% longer enchants makes Ether Prodigy better. Anything that makes it better is good.
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-1 nrgy regen sux, and 20% enchant for ele owns for dual attunes, and others enchants u might be using, plus the skin is nice to
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do what you want... if you like using a worse set up, then do it.
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scyfer
Fire elementalists KILL for casting time reduction. If 20%x2 existed, that would be the most popular staff. Plus the -1 regen DOES hurt, and hurts quite fast if you're using it all the time, energy management or not. As a second alternate set it's fine (in which case I'd go for a 15/-1 wand too), but as a primary, it noway comes close to the stats on Rago's (which also can be duplicated or improved upon). While Rago's price does not justify what it is, it is in no way rubbish, and your combo is WORSE, imo - however better combos CAN be made.
edit: I also don't think it's the best staff skin in the game (many others come out on top, like the Orrian earth staff or Exuro's, if we're just talking ele, plus other uniques use Rago's staff skin).
edit: I also don't think it's the best staff skin in the game (many others come out on top, like the Orrian earth staff or Exuro's, if we're just talking ele, plus other uniques use Rago's staff skin).
Hand of Ruin
People love to hear themselves speak don't they? Or in this case, read themselves type... if that makes sense.
arcanemacabre
Sorry, everyone, I was wrong about the 20/20/20/20 staff. I think I was thinking about 20/20/20, with a 20% enchanting or 20% +1 attribute. Just got a little confused. Either way, I still consider it better than any wand/melee/spear + off-hand, at least for Ele.
Get a staff with a requirement of the attribute of your choice (in this case, Fire). Make sure it has the inherent 20% recharge all spells, and +10 energy. Then you can slap on an "Aptitude not Attitude" Inscription (20% fast cast of required attr), an Adept Staff Head (20% fast cast of required att), and then whatever Staff Wrapping you want.
You end up with a 20/20 fast cast to Fire, and 20% fast recharge to all spells (good for the Energy Storage Enchantments), and your choice of +30 health, +5 Armor, 20% longer enchants, whatever.
Get a staff with a requirement of the attribute of your choice (in this case, Fire). Make sure it has the inherent 20% recharge all spells, and +10 energy. Then you can slap on an "Aptitude not Attitude" Inscription (20% fast cast of required attr), an Adept Staff Head (20% fast cast of required att), and then whatever Staff Wrapping you want.
You end up with a 20/20 fast cast to Fire, and 20% fast recharge to all spells (good for the Energy Storage Enchantments), and your choice of +30 health, +5 Armor, 20% longer enchants, whatever.
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God forbid anyone have a difference of opinion which is different to the majority. Its not like we all live in a free world is it.
As for the weapon on a whole, it has good stats.
And as I said in another thread, if im able to get my hands on it I will give it a try.
Because i listened to everyones posts and considered them and I believed alot of them to right.
But if people like yourself, as ive said about 5 times in this thread, want to just pick at things and try to incourage a flaming instead of just putting an idea cross like an adult, thats your choice.
But if you choose to do that Im not going to listen to your opinions.
But if you believe im inexperienced as an ele because I prefere my weapon stats, then fine. I accept that.
But im not going to resort to calling you or having a go because of your difference of opinion.
That wasnt 100% orientated at you, but more generally at those who dont understand how to have a nice simply talk without needing to flame.
Ive read everyones opinions and ive been swayed slightly. Ill try the weapon out if I can.
Im gonna remove this from my subscribed threads and ignore it now as its just turning into an elitist playground as most threads do.
Merry Christmas.
Malice Black
I ran something similar once and it does work however it is not ideal for all situations.
It is nice to play around though..playing with the same weapons is like using the same build all the time...boring.
It is nice to play around though..playing with the same weapons is like using the same build all the time...boring.
Mathias Deathwater
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Lord Mendes
The ideal set-up for green lovers:
Weapon set 1:
Hajkor's Flame + The Kindlerock.
40% HSR, 20% HCT, Fire +1 (20%). This is the closest thing to a 40/40 set and this will generally get you the highest DPS. Kinderlock can be replaced by a collectors 20/20 offhand but this is the best alternative if you are a green RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO.
Weapon set 2:
Ragos Flame staff.
20% HCT, 20% HSR, Enchants last 20%, e+5. To switch to when casting attunes, or when your build doesnt really need HSR (though I can't think of any :P).
Weapon set 3 (emergency energy set):
Collector's +15/-1 wand and +15/-1 offhand (tarnok's Flagion).
This goes without say really. Your emergency energy set, and this should only be used if you need the extra 30 energy urgently.
Weapon set 4 (optional):
I like to carry a +5e spear (prayer of the forgotten) and a +45/-2 while enchanted shield (malinion's shield).
Again this what I run on my fire ele and I feel that it the best and most diverse weapon sets you could have as a fire elementalist.
Hope this helps.
Weapon set 1:
Hajkor's Flame + The Kindlerock.
40% HSR, 20% HCT, Fire +1 (20%). This is the closest thing to a 40/40 set and this will generally get you the highest DPS. Kinderlock can be replaced by a collectors 20/20 offhand but this is the best alternative if you are a green RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO.
Weapon set 2:
Ragos Flame staff.
20% HCT, 20% HSR, Enchants last 20%, e+5. To switch to when casting attunes, or when your build doesnt really need HSR (though I can't think of any :P).
Weapon set 3 (emergency energy set):
Collector's +15/-1 wand and +15/-1 offhand (tarnok's Flagion).
This goes without say really. Your emergency energy set, and this should only be used if you need the extra 30 energy urgently.
Weapon set 4 (optional):
I like to carry a +5e spear (prayer of the forgotten) and a +45/-2 while enchanted shield (malinion's shield).
Again this what I run on my fire ele and I feel that it the best and most diverse weapon sets you could have as a fire elementalist.
Hope this helps.
LifeInfusion
An elementalist has the LARGEST energy pool. You want the extra pips of energy. Why do people run Ether Prodigy? For pips.
For a necro with hgih soul reap -1 energy regen is more viable, but for an ele? I think not.
That said, the best set of weapons (and armor) should account for shortcomings of the class. For monks it is energy pool which is why people run insightful and/or +5 energy wands swords and spears. For necros the pips aren't a big deal, soul reaping is, which is why people have +15/-1 energy regen focus swaps.
Elementalists have recharges than other classes for most skills. That is why 20% recharge equipment is more useful than +15/-1 energy regen or +5 energy. You want to make use of the larger energy pool, not make a larger pool that doesn't do anything. If anything the 15/-1 should be reserved for when you used up all your energy, not as the primary set.
The best set therefore is 20/20 wand and focus.
P.S. experience doesn't mean anything. It's just a number.
For a necro with hgih soul reap -1 energy regen is more viable, but for an ele? I think not.
That said, the best set of weapons (and armor) should account for shortcomings of the class. For monks it is energy pool which is why people run insightful and/or +5 energy wands swords and spears. For necros the pips aren't a big deal, soul reaping is, which is why people have +15/-1 energy regen focus swaps.
Elementalists have recharges than other classes for most skills. That is why 20% recharge equipment is more useful than +15/-1 energy regen or +5 energy. You want to make use of the larger energy pool, not make a larger pool that doesn't do anything. If anything the 15/-1 should be reserved for when you used up all your energy, not as the primary set.
The best set therefore is 20/20 wand and focus.
P.S. experience doesn't mean anything. It's just a number.
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Energy regen -1 is absolute crap for general use, keeping it out all the time is just screweing your energy.
Ragos isnt perfect, but its good for certain builds, the enchanting mod is really useful for attunes, if you want the best gear for a fire nuker take 20/20 wand and 20/20 offhand as your default kit that way you will get a lot more damage out, have a 20% enchanting item like ragos to switch to while using attunes then have a high HP/AL set to change to when your under attack. |
Fire is a different story to me.
No equipment is "teh uber" Everything has its use for the build you run. Ignore what others say and do what you like. If it works for you, who cares what anybody else says.
Vahn Roi
When I played ele I always prefered a Hale 20/20 Staff of Enchanting with a 15/-1 Wand and Focus for emergancy use. Insightful is redundant for the class in my opinion.
Alleji
-1 regen is a really horrible choice. Maximum energy is meaningless, the only relevant number is the rate at which you recover it, i.e. energy management.
Consider your build (120 energy, or whatever you have) spamming searing flames on a target. How long can you keep it up? Probably 30-40 seconds or so. Now consider an ele with 60 energy spamming searing flames under fire attunement and glyph of lesser energy. How long can he keep it up? A lot longer. Not running fire attunement seems downright stupid in this case, but you are effectively doing the same thing with your weapon set - reducing energy regeneration.
6 energy you trade in for 75 health is a bad trade as well. Energy storage is one of the weakest primary attributes in the game (while expertise and soul reaping are the strongest) and 2 points in it are absolutely not worth 75 health, unless you were reaching some important breakpoint, such as +5 on the old Ether Renewal at 14 Estorage. I wouldn't take a sup estorage even if I were running a Second Wind build - dual afterburners would suffice there. (A 15/-1 item is called an afterburner for a reason: it's simply not meant to be your primary weapon.)
On my ele I use a 40/40 set as primary (wand+offhand) and 8 energy storage. The remainder of the points goes into 5 air for gale and about 9 inspiration for leech sig and power drain. Or 9 water magic for steam in PvP. (SF ele's blinding flash
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I'm afraid I have to say that you are unexperienced at this game as a whole, considering what you are arguing in this thread. I hope the posts here would help you understand the fundamental mechanics of the game better.
Consider your build (120 energy, or whatever you have) spamming searing flames on a target. How long can you keep it up? Probably 30-40 seconds or so. Now consider an ele with 60 energy spamming searing flames under fire attunement and glyph of lesser energy. How long can he keep it up? A lot longer. Not running fire attunement seems downright stupid in this case, but you are effectively doing the same thing with your weapon set - reducing energy regeneration.
6 energy you trade in for 75 health is a bad trade as well. Energy storage is one of the weakest primary attributes in the game (while expertise and soul reaping are the strongest) and 2 points in it are absolutely not worth 75 health, unless you were reaching some important breakpoint, such as +5 on the old Ether Renewal at 14 Estorage. I wouldn't take a sup estorage even if I were running a Second Wind build - dual afterburners would suffice there. (A 15/-1 item is called an afterburner for a reason: it's simply not meant to be your primary weapon.)
On my ele I use a 40/40 set as primary (wand+offhand) and 8 energy storage. The remainder of the points goes into 5 air for gale and about 9 inspiration for leech sig and power drain. Or 9 water magic for steam in PvP. (SF ele's blinding flash
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i also have an ele with 2+ mil exp, finished all 3 campains and blah blah blah....
i had ragos some time ago, it dropped 4 me quite a few times during SF farming, so i had the chance to experiment with it, i ended up selling it - skin is nice but i had jeweled staff with the same skin on my mesmer, plus i cant use weapons for looks only, stats >> looks. after some experiments i decided that i prefer standart collectors wand and offhand +1 fire 20% +30hp - and after factions's release i got +15e/-1e regen wand from crafter in maatu as an emergency set for switching. i dont like the idea of using +15e/-1e regen weapon all the time w/o dual attunm and u might want to have another set for switching in case ur attunm got removed.
after i moved my ele to NF i got her end-game staff - skin looks awful, but i love the stats. as for +20% ench - i'm not going to use this mod in pve anymore, at least not in NF or fow/uw, new AI is getting overexited every time it sees a player with enchants on her/him, u can safely assume ur enchats to be shattered/drained/stripped 20-30 sec after aggroing the mob... its not that bad, AI's trying to handle ench-heavy dervish builds, its not the end of the world...
i cant say that ragos staff is absolutely useless - dual-att build can be used in cantha and tyria, and rago's working ok with it. plus ragos got some sentimental value, and it looks nice... i dont think that sm1 who can afford buying rago might think about using it for renewal earth build as smbdy stated at page2 tho - theres a nice green staff (forget the name sry) it'll work even better and its not expencive but i believe that +armor or +hp mods r superior to +20% ench in most NF/fow/uw areas
i had ragos some time ago, it dropped 4 me quite a few times during SF farming, so i had the chance to experiment with it, i ended up selling it - skin is nice but i had jeweled staff with the same skin on my mesmer, plus i cant use weapons for looks only, stats >> looks. after some experiments i decided that i prefer standart collectors wand and offhand +1 fire 20% +30hp - and after factions's release i got +15e/-1e regen wand from crafter in maatu as an emergency set for switching. i dont like the idea of using +15e/-1e regen weapon all the time w/o dual attunm and u might want to have another set for switching in case ur attunm got removed.
after i moved my ele to NF i got her end-game staff - skin looks awful, but i love the stats. as for +20% ench - i'm not going to use this mod in pve anymore, at least not in NF or fow/uw, new AI is getting overexited every time it sees a player with enchants on her/him, u can safely assume ur enchats to be shattered/drained/stripped 20-30 sec after aggroing the mob... its not that bad, AI's trying to handle ench-heavy dervish builds, its not the end of the world...
i cant say that ragos staff is absolutely useless - dual-att build can be used in cantha and tyria, and rago's working ok with it. plus ragos got some sentimental value, and it looks nice... i dont think that sm1 who can afford buying rago might think about using it for renewal earth build as smbdy stated at page2 tho - theres a nice green staff (forget the name sry) it'll work even better and its not expencive
but i believe that +armor or +hp mods r superior to +20% ench in most NF/fow/uw areas
Redfeather1975
Every weapon has it's place in different builds. That's why there are more than one weapon per profession.
Let everyone use what they feel comfortable with because I'm sure everyone plays their characters differently, even if they are using similar skills and builds.
For example, if you have a energy intensive build, and you or your group has good e-management it can be better to have a higher energy pool total. If you don't have many e-management skills in your build and are not in a group with good energy gaining skills, or you are going against e-denial enemies, you'd want to bring a set that has a lower total and better regen.
Let everyone use what they feel comfortable with because I'm sure everyone plays their characters differently, even if they are using similar skills and builds.
For example, if you have a energy intensive build, and you or your group has good e-management it can be better to have a higher energy pool total. If you don't have many e-management skills in your build and are not in a group with good energy gaining skills, or you are going against e-denial enemies, you'd want to bring a set that has a lower total and better regen.
Seamus Finn
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Originally Posted by LifeInfusion
That said, the best set of weapons (and armor) should account for shortcomings of the class. For monks it is energy pool which is why people run insightful and/or +5 energy wands swords and spears. For necros the pips aren't a big deal, soul reaping is, which is why people have +15/-1 energy regen focus swaps.
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warriorsmiley
Ok first off my first ele had over 1mill exp and my second ele whiched I basically powered thru the game capped the needed elites at the time and used for mostly flagging in gvg had close to 1mill exp with very little pve play. I didnt get my first ele rago's staff because it wasnt out at the time I made my ele. My second ele got rago's staff because to me its the best looking staff skin in the game and the mods werent so bad(besides the +5 energy, a ele doesnt need a insightful staff).
The main thing is prices are all based on the simple concept of price and demand. The demand for rago's staff is still very high till this day but the amount of people that have them(let alone have them for sell) is very very small. When I was reselling my rago's staff which at the time I paid only 55k for in one "WTS" spam in LA I got a replay for 80k and sold it without a hesitation seeing as I got my use out of it and was making a 25k profit . On all my trips down to sorrows I have never seen him drop anything so I know just how rare and valueable his staff is. You have to understand green prices are based on supply and demand all the easy farmable bosses in NF and factions weapons sell for no more then 20-25k were as sorrows bosses still have weapons of high value and low supply I mean just entering Droknars I seen someone wanting to buy razorstone for 85k and we all know how much much rago's staff can net a seller.
Also I personally find the -1 energy regen wands and offhands to be so very pointless unless you need it for split second heals and being a offensive caster there well never be a time where you have to get Meteor shower off or even a Energy surge and need that 15 energy boost.
The main thing is prices are all based on the simple concept of price and demand. The demand for rago's staff is still very high till this day but the amount of people that have them(let alone have them for sell) is very very small. When I was reselling my rago's staff which at the time I paid only 55k for in one "WTS" spam in LA I got a replay for 80k and sold it without a hesitation seeing as I got my use out of it and was making a 25k profit . On all my trips down to sorrows I have never seen him drop anything so I know just how rare and valueable his staff is. You have to understand green prices are based on supply and demand all the easy farmable bosses in NF and factions weapons sell for no more then 20-25k were as sorrows bosses still have weapons of high value and low supply I mean just entering Droknars I seen someone wanting to buy razorstone for 85k and we all know how much much rago's staff can net a seller.
Also I personally find the -1 energy regen wands and offhands to be so very pointless unless you need it for split second heals and being a offensive caster there well never be a time where you have to get Meteor shower off or even a Energy surge and need that 15 energy boost.
Redfeather1975
I remember it already being pointed out that it takes 45 seconds for the +15 energy and -1 regen to balance each other out. Sometimes the extra energy is better than losing the ability to regen an extra 1 energy every 3 seconds.
Too many people think there is only 1 piece of gear, 1 profession, 1 group build that is the best. The best in what? Handling any situation? Nah. The game is not that simple, although some people would like to judge it to be so.
Too many people think there is only 1 piece of gear, 1 profession, 1 group build that is the best. The best in what? Handling any situation? Nah. The game is not that simple, although some people would like to judge it to be so.
Enko
Anet gave us 4 weapon switches for a reason. 20% longer enchantments really is only useful when first casting the enchantments. After that, HSR and HCT are a lot more valuable so switch it out. 15/-1s are also useful if you find yourself out of energy with no energy to recast energy management skills.
I use:
Weapon set 1: For setting up enchantments
Adept Ghostly Staff of Enchanting
HSR 20% all skills
HCT 10% all skills
HCT 20% Fire skills
20% longer enchantments
Energy +10
Weapon set 2: Normal Use
Wand:
HCT 20%
HSR 20%
Offhand:
HCT 20%
HSR 20%
Energy +12
Weapon set 3: If my energy management enchantments are stripped or I run out of energy for some other reason. Extra energy boost allows me to recast energy management enchantments then switch back.
Wand:
HSR 20%
15/-1
Offhand:
15/-1
+30 hp
I use:
Weapon set 1: For setting up enchantments
Adept Ghostly Staff of Enchanting
HSR 20% all skills
HCT 10% all skills
HCT 20% Fire skills
20% longer enchantments
Energy +10
Weapon set 2: Normal Use
Wand:
HCT 20%
HSR 20%
Offhand:
HCT 20%
HSR 20%
Energy +12
Weapon set 3: If my energy management enchantments are stripped or I run out of energy for some other reason. Extra energy boost allows me to recast energy management enchantments then switch back.
Wand:
HSR 20%
15/-1
Offhand:
15/-1
+30 hp
Divinus Stella
Well, -2 +30 weapon sets are needed for an ele, but only as something to swap to when using second wind or ether prism as they give a huge energy boost, in pvp you can use them to burnout your energy on gale on a hero, handy when all you need is 2-3 more gales before the timer hits 0.
I cant think of a time where keeping a -1regen weapon out is gonna help at all.
I cant think of a time where keeping a -1regen weapon out is gonna help at all.
Sleeve
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Originally Posted by bhavv
Meh. Ragos Staff = best staff skin in the game.
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Personally, I used a collectors fire staff with perfect Hale and Enchantment mods. I use it when im dual attuning and find the extra 30hp to be much more beneficial than 5nrg.