How come there are so many ignorant/rude players?

Look at it from this angle: I could be a really good chess player (I'm not, but bear with me), and I could complain that there are just so many ignorant people who don't know how to play. I could. Or, I could simply have fun my way, let others have fun their way, and offer up advice and help to those that are grateful to have it and wish to improve.

Rude people are a different issue, not to be lumped into the ignorant issue. Sure, there are "rude & ignorant" people, but they're still just rude people in my book. Not knowing something is one thing, not knowing something and pretending you do, thinking it might make you look uber is another. Just don't lump that into the same group as people who don't know, and really don't care because they just want to have fun.

I hate that Anet hasn't helped out new players as much as they could by making this clearer to them. I'm sure Anet loves Guildwiki and what it does for the community, so why not tell everyone about it. Maybe go as far to make the game interactive so certain things can link you to the entry on guildwiki. Give new players runes and basic equipment that they need, and make it clear that their character can be better! Skill chaning quests! Make quest rewards give skills that work together! Even an idiot can see that some skills work well together, but may not get the chance to put those skills together. Do it for them sometimes. Explain how stances can be better than enchantments like mending when trying to reduce damage. Let them practise agro. Show them how their damage increases if they play with a better skill bar.
I know there is a huge amount of idiots/ignorant/inexperienced players, whatever you want to call them, but I don't think Anet makes it any easier for them to learn and get better

Go play any online game, and youll encounter rude jerks. Guildwars has no monopoly on that corner of the world believe me. I believe you may need to take a break from the game, because you seem a little over involved in what the rest of the population is up to. People are always, ALWAYS going to ask the same questions over and over, do u how many times in the last two days Ive answered peoples questions regarding Wintersday quests, did I have too answer them, no , I can turn chat off, just like you have the ability to turn chat off, and play by yourself if you so choose, and you should if the rest of the game pop is bothereing you as much as it seems. But, I choose to answer simple questions with a simple polite answer, yes people I could tell them to go to GWiki, and if they have a lot of questions, and some do, I do tell them about Wiki, and Guru, but usually they just want to know where the coal is, or the pipe, or termites, or what have you.
Basically the point is this, you and only you Xunlai, have the power to determine what kind of gaming experience you want to have. A persons moods and surroundings are directley influenced by his thoughts and feelings(simple stuff I know), soooo if you want to go around feeling and thinking that, most everyone else is rude, and ignorant jerk, well that is your perogative, but dont be surprised when people really are rude, and ignorant too you, its what you have come to expect. Might be surprised tho to find that a little better attitude can do wonders for your gameing experience.

nomatter what game you play, you are going to get some immature kids and ignorent people.

i don't mind new players as long as they ask sensible questions and at least TRY and work some stuff out themselves. we were all new once afterall.

the manual is mostly controls + ingame lore/story i dont see the point in reading it (although i did)

i usually hold a zero tolerance policy to people who flame/blame others and will make sure they feel very very small and meek if they decide to abuse myself or one of my friends.

1337 braggers (that includes rank emote flashers nomatter what their rank) in pvp, i usually just repeatly kill over and over for fun.

EDIT: leave the moderator alone

Well, I wouldn't say that all people that don't have the right skills etc are just ignorant. Of course, there are some people that refused to be helped and think that their way of doing stuff is the best and they don't want to learn.

But then again there are some people who don't know about these things, or don't ask for help because they are scared to, and rightly too sometimes.

Asking "Hi, I've never been to UW before, can someone show me the ropes?" etc in Temple of Ages (as I have done before) doesn't always give the best results. There are still alot of people who will reply to this with "go home then n00b" (the '1337' people), but even bystanders who just say "lol" can put people off asking for help, even if they don't intend to be mean.

Ok, i'll try to make a post again. Myself, I wouldn't give a hootie about how other people play. If someone needs help, I'll awnser their questions and sometimes might even help them on their quest/build/mission. That will help them. If I may bring out my opinion; I find this thread disgusting. Asking "Why are there so many ignorant/rude players?" is not really a good title and will not earn you much respect. Especially because you are being kind of rude about "them" yourself and making a title something more like "Why are there so many unexperienced players?" would be a better way of saying things. This thread isn't about people being ignorant, it's about you feeling more 133704 than anyone else. It's common sense that there are less experienced players in a game, everyone needs to learn. And people who want to team up with others in a 8 man group in stead of a 3 man group are not nessicarily "newbs" or "ignorant". Maybe they just like to play with other people. After all, this a Co-operative Online Role Playing Game.
Happy Wintersday, Blaze.

I don't think there are that much ignorant people on the high-end parts of the various chapters.
Most of the missions require about 6 out of 8 people that know at least somethings about what they are doing. So that makes 3/4 non-ignorant players.
But, on a 3 milion player base, that 1/4 is still a lot.
Edit: I still think that is a huge overestimation

Furthermore, when you want people to play a different kind of role (like the trapper), you have to teach them. Trappers are not used that often during normal gameplay, so you have a high chance that someone that is just ranger and wants in your team says he/she's a trapper (and has only one trap, if any).

With the 'new' skill feature, you can at least check the skills someone uses.
And you can check if they have a staff equipped (for the addditional 15 energy).

Now you have a decent looking trapper, but does he/she know the area?
Or trapping in general?
Talk to them, see what they know.
It's not bad to take an unexperienced person with you, as long as he/she follows commands.
I've taken some new trappers through Vizunah Square missions, just telling them where to trap (ping on map), while trapping an other place myself.

On top of this, I know from experience that there are quite a lot of kids playing GuildWars and they have a different playing style.
Sure there are a lot of good players amongst them, but also a lot of them want to finish asap, get all they can get even sooner and listening is for 'noobs'.
When you have bad luck and the whole team is formed around a couple of those kids, good luck finishing whatever you want.

I dont mind and I even help "ignorant" people. These are people who are simply new or just dont really know the game. As long as they have a good attitude, I have no problem with them.

Then there is WILLFUL ignorance. People with bad attitude who dont or refuse to listen. People who dont even try to learn or read a simple instruction then get mad and insult you for trying to help.

Sadly, a lot of young people fit in the second category.

Bottom line is try to help people learn or play with heroes. Some people cant be taught, some do not want to be taught, some just want to play for fun.

I have played for 19 months and I am probly one of these "ignorant" people you speak of. I do not know builds, I do not know the best way to do things, but I do try to be part of "the team". Im just glad there are understanding people who play the game.

did i miss something or ... whats rude about ppl being shite? or playing the game the way they want?
was actually expecting something in the lines of 'those swines kept using 4 letter words in fow!!' but the only ignorant person that i could find in your thread is you.
sorry dude.

cus ppl can be rude with out getting the so and so beat out of them see
...seriosly

I cannot tell if you are ignorant or not.
After 19 months of play, you should know at least a bit what skills work better or worse in certain situations.
Or what set of skills will get you through the game (my monk uses 2 basic builds with only small adjustments most of the time).

If you adapted, you are not ignorant.

Furthermore, there is no 'best way' to do things.
When you finish the mission/quest, you have done fine.
Sure it could be faster (I still remember the Grand Court of Sebelkeh mission, finished in 31 minutes because the team did not know what to do and only one Warrior responded to my calls to get up the ramps to close the rifts).
But we have done the job.
Only on masters teams skills and mindset really matter.

Because there are that many ignorant and rude people.

There are a lot of rude and ignorant people in life in general. It's called the 20% rule. Don't be surprised when some of them decide to play GW. The less mature players present here and there in most games sometimes don't help either.

Further compounding the "rude" problem, people seem to think no one is watching them in the cities/towns/outposts, and that it's ok to spam fart jokes, toss about various slurs, advertise "WTS one well used mom" in the party search, and try to sell santa hats to noobs. Such is life, but at least most of them get bored and leave.

i think theres more rude/annoying/provocative/negative people about now

some things annoy people for no reason i can see, like a friend of mine gets annoyed when people (non leader) suggest things when forming a pug, something like "a ele would be good" or "i suggest we get a warrior as we have no tank"

personaly i like to play with people if possible, and i help others when i can. but some people dont want to think, or want to go on and have fights with others...

Guild wars i find to be nowhere as bad as other online games i came into guild wars from playing battlefield 2 and this is horrendous for other people flaming tking and such.

However since i started i have loved the game and i'm happy to group with pug's but try as often as possibly to get a group composed of people from my guild as it's more efficient and fun, for the most part playing with hero's or henches would be my last choice as it's far less enjoyable to sit there in silence.

Oh that's definately right, when you look at other online multiplayer games, GuildWars definately stands out. I mean there are much worse people in the other games, GuildWars is lucky, coupled with Anet's ability to communicate with their consumers really makes the difference, it cuts down the number of complaints and rude people are less likely to act rude. Ignorance would be on the high though, this game can get really complicated.

Guild Wars is a single-player game.

There is no social interdependancy, no consequences, and complete anonimity. On top of that, it's free to play. And the boost in AI simply made it perfectly viable to play without ever running into a player (In RoT, a player asked what "LFG" means)

Add to that what an average person is like, and realize that half of population is worse than that.

And there you have it. The wonderful GW community.

I can be ignorant and rude only when noobs say "where is the merchant!!??" seriously if they would just press alt and walk around this wouldn't happen (for me at least).

People are creatures of habit. If individuals find they can do something underhanded and rude to get what they want faster, and then get away with it, you'll find they'll do it more often.

Some people are impossible to please. In many situations, say, an argument breaks out in a district, the best thing you can do is just ignore it, zone out, and get on with your day.

Don't let anyone take up space in your head, unless they earn it.