Put a stop to leechers

(my frustration level is off the meter right now so this will prolly sound like flame)

Leeching has become a big issue in the snowball fights, and from my 4 4hour session. at least half of the tems I joined when going in had a leecher. It is as bad as it was when ABs first came out. Unfortunately, unlike the ABs, the snowball fights have a limited duration. This makes the time wasting caused by leeechers so bad it's not even funny. People that are going for the title get precious time wasted, time that cannot really afford to loose.

This is not a new problem, but in almost 2 years, the devs have done NOTHING to address it, NOTHING at all. How hard can it be to detect leechers? They have a script that hits enter mission every so often and they spend the entire game doing NOTHING. I'm not a programer by trade, but I know that is is not hard to see that a player's client has transmited NO actions to the server for the duration of an entire game.

If nothing can be done against them, at least implement a /kick command so that people will be able to rid themselves of the dead weight after the game. Yes, I know, that can be abused, but let's face it, the abusability of a kick command is o, so , so much smaller than the amount of leechers that the pros by far outweigh the cons.

And as a last note. A.net, if you are going to make random arenas, with random grouping, have the decency to make them RANDOM. It has always been possible to spike enter and get a full team if you give a few tries and have no lag. otherwise have the decency to call them Pseudo-Random Arenas.

That's not true. They DID address it.

On GWO, Gaile: "..we dont see leechers as a problem."

(you can search gwo website, it's easy to find numerous threads where her quote is mentioned.. it was initially posted in the thread where tons of us complained about leechers)


ps: welcome to the club. The solution: ragequit. There are tons of us who enjoyed playing Fort Aspenwood (which is a cool map) etc etc, but leechers simply kill your enjoyment, so it's not worth playing.

Ragequiting is not a sullution IMO. WHat I don't get is that this is borderline botting. I fail to see the difference between botting for cash and botting for faction or whatnot.

As for the not seeing leechers as a problem, that might be because they have their head up their a$$es... hard to see much like that, but it does explain the overall direction of the game theese days.

Another way is just to look on the net and keep checking back... not that i do that type of thing

Nothing is going to change, A.net have already stated they don't find leechers as a major problem.

No point in worrying about it, because its not going to go away.

It's too bad people arent leaving instead they play 3v4 and leecher benefits. Leechers level up their new char, get gamer title and a lot of CC shards over night while they are afk.

Under normal circumstances, yes, it is not major. However, with such time limited events, and titles that you can only get during them it becomes a HUGE problem.

How would you feel if out of the only possible 100 hours of game time for this event, 50 of them were wasted on games lost because of leechers? THis is not about RA or ABs or anything like that, this problem is especially hard in the snowball fights, and unless you spike enter and get a full team of peope on vent, you have to do it the Pseudo-Random way...

Gratz on system A.net.

And even if they don't do anything about leechers as such, there is no reason not to have a KICK command.

Believe me I would, if I didn't have to go through GTB which is like PvE replayer's haven for some strange reason from beyond reason.

Double posting isn't allowed, also bad mouthing A.net won't get you anywhere.

/signed to send leeches anthrax filled envelopes

If they implemented a kick command that would worsen Guild Wars so much, PUGS would become non exsistant because if you didn't listen to the elitist thinks he/she knows it all leader you'd get kicked. No thanks.

How about just abandoning Snowball fights and that title altogether. Because it's boring and there are much better titles. I also think it's just bad luck you keep getting leechers, but I never really have done any thing like Aspenwood/AB/ boring Snowball fights..that have had leechers as much. I get bored of those things so fast it doesn't matter anyway and well I can see how it might become a problem if it keeps becoming a larger practiced thing, but I don't think it is as of now.

I'd also just quit, because no reason to help the leecher out. Keep quitting on them, they'll give up eventually.

i dont mind saying what i said over at the other site (does guru allow mentioning other sites or is that a no-no here too?)
the more the merrier.
aspy was trashed because of afks and anet did nothing about it. so - as rude as it is - i am actually glad others are having problems with afks too. since this way - maybe enough ppl will get pissed off and anet might finally do something about it.
till then - enjoy how i feel over at aspy.

Look, when you PUG, you
1) enter someone elses group
2) make your own

If you make your own, do what you want.
If you enter someone elses, then YES you either listen to group leadership or get the hell out of there, comprehendo? Im not the only one tired of leeroys. And i never met a skilled GW players who would say "dont tell me how to play the game". In 100% cases someone said that, he was a noob, and usually a 12yr old kiddo.

I haven't had a problem with group leaders. But being able to kick people from the group would be bad. There are people out there who would turn around and threaten to kick you at the most inopportune time unless you gave them something like....money?
I really do bet that people would pull that.

Um, people... A kick command would work much like a resign command. if EVERYBODY in the party wants to kick someone, they SHOULD be able to do it. With 3/4 and 7/8 peopple having to be in agreement to kick someone, I fail to see how this could get abused except in the rarest of cases. Besides, this isfor PvP, and having to play with one less person is a large handicap. If an entire party is willing to take it, the one that is voted for kicking deserves it in 99.9999% of the cases.

/kick and the person's party number... it is THAT simple, why don't they do it?

Please stop moaning, leechers aren't going anywhere.

Even if we all stopped playing tommorow, leechers would still be leeching.

The end.

i agree. players should repeat to themselves, "leeching is not a problem" until they psyche themselves into ANet's way of thinking

Very simple and easy solution:

You have a leecher? You leave. If everyone does this then leeching won't be rewarding anymore. And nobody will leech anymore. Very easy.

ugh this is only a few days arena , enjoy what Anet gave you, play have fun and stop complaining and moaning like its a Life or Death matter, jeez Anet has more to worry about then a few 12 year olds titles.

If there is something wrong, or bad about something else, others shouldn't try to silence a person for speaking out against it, just because they think nothing will be done. This is just further preventing change to it. Does every post have to contain something derogatory?

You obviously have no experience with leeching whatsoever. Go play Fort Aspenwood before uttering such silly comments.