Originally Posted by noodle
Wow, if I am you, I would be pretty pee-off too. You definitely have a case there against Anet if you can provide more proofs or screenshots. Do you live in US? If so, doesn't everyone is US can sue anyone for not providing the service they advertised? 
wow... just wow.
they have that system to try and prevent something, this is the first time (i have seen on this forums) were a playing party has come across this, ANet might not have thought that players would try and take on the entire quest, maybe top 3 parts of the quest.
back on topic, if the rewards escalate this way, what about beggining at the middle (2 of 4 completed) then taking on mallyx, could that yield additional reward?
who knows, still nice finding
24 Dec 2006 at 17:55 - 9
you were actually playing for 11 hours.../mouthdrop
24 Dec 2006 at 18:36 - 10
Reconnects work (I actually had to during Ravengloom), but if you don't do so in 10 minutes, the window to reconnect passes (the ranger was slow to reboot). I don't think there are any ties between consecutive quests and Mallyx since they are almost 2 different zones with different entry points. Perhaps completion of the 4th spawns the Ebon Citadel quest, but there was no indication from completion of the previous zones (all of us had all the quests completed already of course).
24 Dec 2006 at 19:31 - 11
Game Experience May Change During Online Play. You can't sue for what happened. lol
Anyways sorry to hear that, that does suck. I'd be extremly pissed also... when does this err59 occur though? I spent 17 hours (well me and friend switching as we went to classes) on my character and never got kicked once... and I was farming.
24 Dec 2006 at 21:06 - 12
I'm not sure when this error occurs, but the fact that we ALL error 059ed at exactly the same time - we were all on vent so there is no question about this - and that NONE of my other friends online at the time experienced it suggests to me that this is definitely NOT a coincidence, but a design flaw somewhere. 10 hours in DoA starting from Ravenheart Gloom is probably close to the mark. I said 12 earlier because there was another 2 hours or so that we spent getting set up, wiping the first few times etc..
24 Dec 2006 at 21:17 - 13
As the note on Wiki says, the Err 59 boot takes place if you have been in a specific zone for 10 straight hours (idle or not does not make a difference). I have been on for 1 day plus 10 hours one time (game just says you have been on for 1 day) and not gotten kicked. Simply because I was doing different things.
The entire DoA is one zone (i.e. even though you can enter through the Foundry, the City, the Gloom or the Veil, you really enter the same explorable area). This is why we all got booted at exactly the same time, because we all entered the Gloom at exactly the same time.
24 Dec 2006 at 21:51 - 14
Congrats on one hell of an attempt (that's something I wish I had been a part of!). I, myself, will also be REALLY curious to see if ANET will answer this, because, IMO, their anti-farming code punished you in the end (unfairly). If this is supposed to be an elite area, then, IMO, I'd have to view this code as a restriction on what was an amazing attempt. I'd be willing to bet that they never thought someone would try what your group did...
24 Dec 2006 at 22:19 - 15
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Originally Posted by Kern Wolf
I'd be willing to bet that they never thought someone would try what your group did...
Well, that was the confounding question... Why would ANet put a reward for something they think will never happen. A partial answer to this was that according to one Dev, they originally figured each DoA quest would take 1 to 1.5 hours to complete. Which, in my opinion, proves they never even tried this stuff.
The City and Gloom can be done in 1.5 hours, last night we only did the essentials in the Veil (when the Ranger dropped) so we got it down to 2 hours. However, we have not found a way to slim down the Foundry. It takes us 3 hours minimum if we are super efficient and fast. Just insane. So, that's 8 hours if you take no breaks and if you have perfect builds for each section (which we do not because we have one build for all 4, not a specific build for each). So, overall, just a crazy paradox.
24 Dec 2006 at 22:20 - 16
My eyes still hurt from being on for that amount of time straight.
24 Dec 2006 at 22:24 - 17
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Originally Posted by Karlos
As the note on Wiki says, the Err 59 boot takes place if you have been in a specific zone for 10 straight hours (idle or not does not make a difference). I have been on for 1 day plus 10 hours one time (game just says you have been on for 1 day) and not gotten kicked. Simply because I was doing different things.
The entire DoA is one zone (i.e. even though you can enter through the Foundry, the City, the Gloom or the Veil, you really enter the same explorable area). This is why we all got booted at exactly the same time, because we all entered the Gloom at exactly the same time.
well... so it kinda is fair that you were all kicked...sorry
anyways... gratz on this great finding
24 Dec 2006 at 22:26 - 18
What I'm more interested in is the build you've used.
Please say it wasn't all trappers...
24 Dec 2006 at 22:31 - 19
Man O Man Lamees , after I err'd out and couldn't get back in I thought you 7 would surely complete the last quest . That just sucks big time man !
To Anet , please pm Karlos and get the party list and deposit to each account the following items and all will be forgiven
10 Peppermint CCs
4 Stygian Gem Stones
2 Primevial Armors
1 Ambrance of Truth
1 Torment Weapon (matching char)
1 Green Weapon (matching char)
I know , I know , I'm dreamin' , but hey , I stayed up for 12 hours and have had very little sleep lately
And..... it is after all Christmas
24 Dec 2006 at 22:45 - 20
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Originally Posted by anshin
well... so it kinda is fair that you were all kicked...sorry
anyways... gratz on this great finding 
Actually, it ISN'T fair, when you think about it...
While I haven't gone to DoA (yet), I wouldnt think that all groups would use the exact same builds to go there. If you attempt what this group did (which I'm STILL shaking my head at...congrats again!), you are almost forced to be perfect (knowing EXACTLY what you're doing, or have to do, right from the beginning) before that stupid code kicks in. It doesnt allow for group breaks to happen (i.e. bathroom), it doesnt allow your group to take some time to talk about how you're going to do the next quest---heck, what if they finished a quest, and just wanted to walk through the area killing everything?
They need to remove the code from this area...
25 Dec 2006 at 03:59 - 21
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Originally Posted by Antheus
What I'm more interested in is the build you've used.
Please say it wasn't all trappers...
8 touch rangers.
25 Dec 2006 at 06:26 - 22
We used the classic build that I posted on here before (See the threads "Stygian Veil build on the wiki" and "Foundry build on the wiki") and we just modified all characters to include the essential skills for each area. If you have done that build for each of those areas, you know there are a few skills that make life easier in each one (constant spell coverage for the tank in Gloom, corpse travel in Foundry, ....) so, we just made sure each of those cool skills was on someone in the party. The structure is the same though, 3 monks, 3 nukers, 1 tank, 1 utility ranger.
25 Dec 2006 at 06:29 - 23
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Originally Posted by Drewfense
8 touch rangers.
ROFL
Man, it's disheartening getting to the end of the foundry and then having the stupid prisoner get stuck or body blocked and lose. After that attempt and what happened, I'd be floored (and probably taking a few days away from GW before I could even think of doing anything again). Of course, the rewards for a succesful completion are quite nice. I'm really curious now if the reward for all 4 in one go is just the scaling gems drops, or something else in addition. GL on your next go!
25 Dec 2006 at 06:40 - 24
Damn I would bow to you guys if this wasn't the internet.
Least you guys made a pretty penny from drops, but it is disenharting that you get dropped from some silly code.
25 Dec 2006 at 08:12 - 25
Well, we will again attempt to do all 4 and maybe beating Mallyx too, but it's all going to be done on the weekend and definitely with some things we have to tweak and work out concerning the build. It's definitely going to be a race against time. *glares at the err59 10 hour mark*
25 Dec 2006 at 10:02 - 26
i noticed that game(anet ) tend to punish better players and reward bad ones, you should sue them for this 059 this just make me hate anet
25 Dec 2006 at 10:47 - 27
I'm sorry that your run came to such an abrupt end and in the way it did. Hopefully there will be some changes made eventually to the way the err code works.
With that said I must congratulate you guys on the attempt, I'm pretty impressed.
26 Dec 2006 at 20:48 - 28
This is just an idea...
Would it reset the timer if you guys all disconnected then reconnected?
say at the 8 hour mark. each one of you take a turn disconnecting then reconnecting?
might be worth a try...
26 Dec 2006 at 22:11 - 29
Definitely not necessary. We got the first 8 hours down to 5 last night. So, yeah, we're not in danger of the 10 hour mark anymore.
26 Dec 2006 at 23:46 - 30
Nice! If u can beat mallyx also in ur run, watch each person on ur team pull an armbrace instead of the mallyx greens
27 Dec 2006 at 01:47 - 31
this is lame ... needs to be fixed
27 Dec 2006 at 11:59 - 32
I feel sorry for the OP, this needs to be addressed.
Edit:
Now that the op mentioned it, i remembered i got kicked by Err Code 59 while playing over the weekend as well when i last saw i clocked 10 hours....so that was what happened ><
27 Dec 2006 at 21:33 - 33
and a partridge in a pear treee.... ;P
that sucks, you guys deserved better! very nice job though on your parts.
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Originally Posted by Sal
Man O Man Lamees , after I err'd out and couldn't get back in I thought you 7 would surely complete the last quest . That just sucks big time man !
To Anet , please pm Karlos and get the party list and deposit to each account the following items and all will be forgiven
10 Peppermint CCs
4 Stygian Gem Stones
2 Primevial Armors
1 Ambrance of Truth
1 Torment Weapon (matching char)
1 Green Weapon (matching char)
I know , I know , I'm dreamin' , but hey , I stayed up for 12 hours and have had very little sleep lately
And..... it is after all Christmas
27 Dec 2006 at 21:57 - 34
Do they not understand you can never stop botting? You fix one thing, and they will ALWAYS find a way around it. So instead they break the game for those of us that spent our money on it that arent cheating. This drives me insane about online PC games.
28 Dec 2006 at 09:10 - 35
there are so many aspects to DOA that are totally ill-conceived, but to get screwed by anti-farm auto-boot is ridiculous
gg anerf
29 Dec 2006 at 05:35 - 36
As unfortunate as this is, that was by far the BEST thing I've ever seen anybody do in pve. Eleven hours is hardcore as hell. Sorry to hear what happened.
HOWEVER, you have also stumbled upon something good. Depending on what zone you start in determines how many of the gems of each type you get. That means that if you save the rarest zone for third (because of the time issue) you can get three of that gem instead of three Marg gems.
29 Dec 2006 at 06:21 - 37
Not sure if you guys are aware, but we already succeeded in completing the run in 8.5 hours. Check here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10096618
30 Dec 2006 at 17:25 - 38
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Originally Posted by Karlos
Ok, so a group of us set out to do the impossible. We decided to do all four parts of the Mallyx the Unyielding quest in succession in one run. Partially because we were given a "tip" that it was somehow more rewarding.
And more rewarding it was!
So, it turned out that if you do the quests in succession, you get more gems from the end area chest. We got 1 Torment Gem each from the Ravenheart Chest that shows up after beating the Greater Darkness. Then 2 Titan Gems each from the Foundry Chest after beating the Fury, then 3 Margonite Gems after beating Lord Jadoth. (screenshots above for those last two areas.)
Then, ANet's bungled up such a sweet reward. We completed both quests in the Stygian Veil, our ranger Err 7ed and we prevailed still. We got to the Smothering Tendrils, we killed 2 of the six. Then the ENTIRE party got kicked because of Err Code 59.
For those unaware, Err Code 59 is the anti-farming/botting code that kicks out characters that have been on too long. At the point of being kicked we had been chugging at this for 11 hours. So, the game decided we were all bots and kicked us.
This turned the sweet discovery into a great amount of rage. For ANet's developers put a nice reward, then made it unattainable. If you do the quests in succession you get a treat, but we can't allow you to do them in succession, so yeah. Tough luck buddy.
Granted, we can perhaps fine-tune the run to say 10 hours and not take breaks or eat or drink or go to the bathroom, but come on ANet, this is ridiculous.
Hmm I dont not know if worth the reward, if you spend 10+ Hours to complete the whole Myallx quest to get all that. It just not worth it to my opinion because you must take a break so or later or you will get hooked in the game very much and that not very healthly.
30 Dec 2006 at 20:53 - 39
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Originally Posted by Avatar Exico
Hmm I dont not know if worth the reward, if you spend 10+ Hours to complete the whole Myallx quest to get all that. It just not worth it to my opinion because you must take a break so or later or you will get hooked in the game very much and that not very healthly.
It's very much worth it if you can put in the time. If you check the post above yours, we got it down to 8 hours. That would be the same time to do each separately. Only, instead of getting one gem after each chest, you get 1, 2, 3 then 4. So, 10 gems out of the chests instead of 4. That's a 150% increase in gems.
30 Dec 2006 at 23:56 - 40
Kind of on a related note, i was 300 points away from the all time high score of the Aurios Mines challenge mission and i got err. 59 (11 hours of aurios mines...) Needless to say i was ready to punch my computer...
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