lf VERY FAST UW Solo Farming build
schmoky
hi guys someone know a fast uw and/or fow farming build something like 2men farming or maybe something what is half so fast :P pls answer
Captain Arne Is PRO
Solo trapping smites runs is extremely fast once you get good at it. :\
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Faer
Holy crap, I totally owned an Aatxe with Ineptitude. It couldn't hurt me because it was always blind! 
Bloodied Blade
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beltran13579
Bloodied Blade
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Originally Posted by beltran13579
how do u kill 2-3 Aatxe if only 1 is blind wont the others kill u?
It's a joke lol. Aataxes now occupy the same space (so you can't use the ineptitude build even with body blocking)...the build isn't even good for fighting things that *don't* do like 120 dmg per hit.
On a more serious note-
If you want a fast UW solo, make a rit. Rt/Me VwK solo is probably the fastest ecto farm in the game.
On a more serious note-
If you want a fast UW solo, make a rit. Rt/Me VwK solo is probably the fastest ecto farm in the game.
flipfly2004
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I can do 5 minute runs 
would u mind sharing the build or are u just going to brag?!?!?!
would u mind sharing the build or are u just going to brag?!?!?!
Bloodied Blade
You seriously didn't look at the link did you...take a look at the linked build and have yourself a laugh with the rest of us.
A Rt/Me can do ~15-25 minute runs, which is pretty much the fastest solo in the game right now.
A Rt/Me can do ~15-25 minute runs, which is pretty much the fastest solo in the game right now.
flipfly2004
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Originally Posted by Bloodied Blade
You seriously didn't look at the link did you...take a look at the linked build and have yourself a laugh with the rest of us.
A Rt/Me can do ~15-25 minute runs, which is pretty much the fastest solo in the game right now. WTF?!?!?! i think i hav to go to sleep now taking back my last post
A Rt/Me can do ~15-25 minute runs, which is pretty much the fastest solo in the game right now. WTF?!?!?! i think i hav to go to sleep now
taking back my last post
Turbobusa
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Originally Posted by Bloodied Blade
If you want a fast UW solo, make a rit. Rt/Me VwK solo is probably the fastest ecto farm in the game.
try the ele earth tanker build, so fast & easy it's cheating
Bloodied Blade
Only problem currently with the earth tank is that it's slow...I really hate to say it, but ectos > shards now even with the low drop rate. Shards sell for around 2k, ectos for around 4x that much. If you make 2 in a single Rt/Me run, you've just surpassed the ability of 2 forest runs. Speed is what it's all about now.
schmoky
but you cant kill the aatxe with rt/me ...can someone post me the build for earth ele tanker?x)
dont feel no pain
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Originally Posted by schmoky
but you cant kill the aatxe with rt/me ...can someone post me the build for earth ele tanker?x)
ummm yeah you can
Riceboi
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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
ummm yeah you can
Yeah using spirits but it's so slow.
Yeah using spirits but it's so slow.
Hyprodimus Prime
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Originally Posted by schmoky
but you cant kill the aatxe with rt/me ...can someone post me the build for earth ele tanker?x)
something along the lines of this. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:E/Me_Terra_Tank
vespertine
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ummm yeah you can
maybe with henchway.. or with the spiritspammer build.. but definitely NOT solo as VwK..
maybe with henchway.. or with the spiritspammer build.. but definitely NOT solo as VwK..
schmoky
can you kill with the ele build the aatxes?
and how long you need for a full run with and without aaxtes?
pls answer fast
and how long you need for a full run with and without aaxtes?
pls answer fast
Bloodied Blade
You can't solo mobs of aataxes without a monk secondary...at least you can't if you're looking for speed.
Aataxes are pointless anyway. The reason I said the ele was slow though was b/c the earth tank farms FoW. Shards currently sell to trader for around 1.9k, ectos for around 4 times that. 2-3 ectos (usually 2 is the norm for drops) blows the earth tank out of the water when compared to the vwk solo.
Aataxes are pointless anyway. The reason I said the ele was slow though was b/c the earth tank farms FoW. Shards currently sell to trader for around 1.9k, ectos for around 4 times that. 2-3 ectos (usually 2 is the norm for drops) blows the earth tank out of the water when compared to the vwk solo.
Turbobusa
hmmm I was talking about an uw farmer.
killing the graspings + smites takes about 10 minutes, 2 ectos at least for me.
replace kinetic armor, stone daggers, the glyph and aura of restoration (in the build posted by hyprodimus prime) by SV, earthquake, aftershock and storm djinn's haste.
killing the graspings + smites takes about 10 minutes, 2 ectos at least for me.
replace kinetic armor, stone daggers, the glyph and aura of restoration (in the build posted by hyprodimus prime) by SV, earthquake, aftershock and storm djinn's haste.
Xethrion
Hmm.. with attribs of 12 earth, 10 inspir, 8 illu, and 2 air I'm guessing. Interesting.
schmoky
but i want to kill the aatxe's too
noone knows a fast build for that???aatxes+smiters
noone knows a fast build for that???aatxes+smiters
Rainstorm13
How fast is the Mo/Me or Me/Mo IW Solo in the Underworld compared to the above builds?
Grolubao
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How fast is the Mo/Me or Me/Mo IW Solo in the Underworld compared to the above builds?
I don't know compared to those builds, but it's really slow... not worth it in my opinion.
Hand of Ruin
I've soloed the entire underworld on my paragon and found gwen and reached nirvana in 15 min.
AscalonWarrior
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I've soloed the entire underworld on my paragon and found gwen and reached nirvana in 15 min.
With Paragon? I hope that wasn't sarcasm
tballz
aatxe's aren't pointless since they usually drop ectos for me , but if you cant kill them fast you might as well just skip them right? 
Diva Signet
Best way to do Underworld in my opinion is dual trappers.
Yeah, I know the title said solo, but solo builds are either too slow or too limited. With trappers you can kill Aataxes, Graspings, Smites, and Coldfires (though they usually don't drop anything).
On topic: Best solo build if you can pull it off is Rt/Me.
Yeah, I know the title said solo, but solo builds are either too slow or too limited. With trappers you can kill Aataxes, Graspings, Smites, and Coldfires (though they usually don't drop anything).
On topic: Best solo build if you can pull it off is Rt/Me.
schmoky
last run with an necro and monk (duo) 3ectos from the aaxtes...i need a build to farm them solo...PLEASE!!!:/
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A Mesmer 55 IW can solo aaxtaes but it is very slow.
speedy21589
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Originally Posted by schmoky
last run with an necro and monk (duo) 3ectos from the aaxtes...i need a build to farm them solo...PLEASE!!!:/
Honestly, duo is probably the way to go for speed right now, if you intend to kill aatxes and smites.
And there are a lot of good posts in this farming forum; you should actually comb through some of them instead of waiting around for somebody to hand you a build on a silver platter.
And there are a lot of good posts in this farming forum; you should actually comb through some of them instead of waiting around for somebody to hand you a build on a silver platter.
Makkert
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Originally Posted by schmoky
hi guys someone know a fast uw and/or fow farming build something like 2men farming or maybe something what is half so fast :P pls answer
Its amazing how the threadtitle already can give so much away from the content of the original post.
Its amazing how the threadtitle already can give so much away from the content of the original post.
Xethrion
To do some number crunching, there are exactly 16 aatxes that you can kill before the smites, each with a 4.1 % chance of dropping ecto.
Therefore if you kill all, the chance of you getting an ecto is 16*4.1 (correct me someone, if this calculation is wrong), which is 65.6%.
When you reach the Ice Wastes, you will be confronted with approximately 35-40 smites. Let's take the lower number. According to wiki, smites have a 1.7% chance of dropping ecto. That makes it 35*1.7 = 59.5%. At 40, that would be 68%.
So the chances of getting ecto are roughly about the same from all the aatxes, and all the smites.
The fastest smite-only run in existence now, is the Rt/Me, with the best time being 15 minutes. Thus to make farming the aatxes worthwhile, there must be a build which can complete both areas, in 30 minutes.
I THINK the SS necro can probably do it at 30-40 minutes, but am not sure. Anybody else can provide any figures?
Therefore if you kill all, the chance of you getting an ecto is 16*4.1 (correct me someone, if this calculation is wrong), which is 65.6%.
When you reach the Ice Wastes, you will be confronted with approximately 35-40 smites. Let's take the lower number. According to wiki, smites have a 1.7% chance of dropping ecto. That makes it 35*1.7 = 59.5%. At 40, that would be 68%.
So the chances of getting ecto are roughly about the same from all the aatxes, and all the smites.
The fastest smite-only run in existence now, is the Rt/Me, with the best time being 15 minutes. Thus to make farming the aatxes worthwhile, there must be a build which can complete both areas, in 30 minutes.
I THINK the SS necro can probably do it at 30-40 minutes, but am not sure. Anybody else can provide any figures?
Xiaxhou of Trinity
Inept 55 Mes anyone?
speedy21589
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I THINK the SS necro can probably do it at 30-40 minutes, but am not sure. Anybody else can provide any figures?
I haven't really tried to 55 N/Mo since the nerf. I did do it once, and any groups of smites over 3 were extremely annoying to kill. I could not manage to kill a group of 5 because of their constant rotation. Plus, it is very hard to keep SS up on smites when 2 of them aren't balled up, so they dont have hexes on them, and thus smite hex off SS.
Xethrion
That means that nobody can do a combined solo smite + aatxe run in short enough time to make it better than the Rt/Me solo smite farm I guess.
Guess the OP has his answer
Guess the OP has his answer
Nechtan Thaumaturge
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Therefore if you kill all, the chance of you getting an ecto is 16*4.1 (correct me someone, if this calculation is wrong), which is 65.6%.
The easiest way to compute the probability of getting an ecto is to figure out the probability of getting zero ectos and then subtracting that number from 1. Since it's X-MAS break for most of us, I won't dredge up all the nasty math
. Suffice it to say, there's a 1-(1-0.041)^16 = 0.488 = 48.8% chance of getting one or more ectos from fighting 16 Aatxes.For the Smite Crawlers, there's a 1-(1-0.017)^38 = 0.479 = 47.9% chance of getting one or more ectos from fighting 38 Smite Crawlers (I chose a middling number).
Putting these both together, you have a 1-(1-0.488)*(1-0.479) = 0.733 = 73.3% chance of getting at least one ecto from killing both the Aatxes and the Smite Crawlers.
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So the chances of getting ecto are roughly about the same from all the aatxes, and all the smites.
Yep. The numbers are just a bit lower.
Incidentally, the average number of ectos per run is equal to the number of creatures times the probability of an ecto dropping, or exactly what you calculated. So, on average, you'll pull about 0.65 ectos from either the Aatxes or the Smites per run, or 2 every 3 runs. Doing both should yield 1.3 ectos per run, on average. This compares pretty well with my own personal experiences.
Finally, you get a little extra leeway (maybe 2 or 3 minutes) for the combined run since you only have to pay the entrance fee once for every two times you would do the Smite-only run. So, if a Smite-only run takes 15 minutes and a combined run takes 30 minutes, chose the combined run and save yourself 1k.
EDIT: reworded, added last two paragraphs
Incidentally, the average number of ectos per run is equal to the number of creatures times the probability of an ecto dropping, or exactly what you calculated. So, on average, you'll pull about 0.65 ectos from either the Aatxes or the Smites per run, or 2 every 3 runs. Doing both should yield 1.3 ectos per run, on average. This compares pretty well with my own personal experiences.
Finally, you get a little extra leeway (maybe 2 or 3 minutes) for the combined run since you only have to pay the entrance fee once for every two times you would do the Smite-only run. So, if a Smite-only run takes 15 minutes and a combined run takes 30 minutes, chose the combined run and save yourself 1k.
EDIT: reworded, added last two paragraphs
ultima desturcto
well said...
Xethrion
Thank you for the corrected math, knew I forgot something along the way
Fact of the matter is though, I'm not sure if there are any solo builds which can complete both aatxes and smites in 30 minutes..
Fact of the matter is though, I'm not sure if there are any solo builds which can complete both aatxes and smites in 30 minutes..
Nechtan Thaumaturge
Agreed.
Also, I wanted to mention one other thing suggested by your analysis: an Aatxe-only run. If you could clear the chamber and perhaps kill some of the outlying Aatxes in about the same amount of time that a Smite-only run takes, you'd have an equally profitable run. The battles will tend to be longer, but since you don't need to run anywhere or wait for the Coldfire Nights to clear, it might just be possible. The Aatxes can be picked off in groups of three easily enough, so scattering isn't a grave issue, and without Smite Hex to worry about, you can lay on the hexes with impunity. Mind you, survival isn't trivial, and you still have to worry about interrupts, but perhaps there is a suitable Monk, Necromancer, or Mesmer build out there for this sort of thing.
Also, I wanted to mention one other thing suggested by your analysis: an Aatxe-only run. If you could clear the chamber and perhaps kill some of the outlying Aatxes in about the same amount of time that a Smite-only run takes, you'd have an equally profitable run. The battles will tend to be longer, but since you don't need to run anywhere or wait for the Coldfire Nights to clear, it might just be possible. The Aatxes can be picked off in groups of three easily enough, so scattering isn't a grave issue, and without Smite Hex to worry about, you can lay on the hexes with impunity. Mind you, survival isn't trivial, and you still have to worry about interrupts, but perhaps there is a suitable Monk, Necromancer, or Mesmer build out there for this sort of thing.