The best string for barrage rangers?

dt the healer

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Austrlia

Hi
I am interested in seeing what you guys think is the best bow string fora barrgae ranger and why?

I think there are 3 strings that could be used

Zealous, Vampric, and an Elemental

Any opionons?

marshy man

marshy man

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Join Date: Oct 2006

gardiner, me

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vamp- take dmg, do 50+5 dmg, thats 30 health back to you for everytime u use barrage. that is if ur using all 6 shots....extra dmg and get healed. helps the monks...

T N Player

T N Player

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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i like zealous when there is less then 3 ppl and when there is more then that, i use vamp.

if u use vamp, just make sure u are about to fight

Jelloblimp

Jelloblimp

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Join Date: May 2005

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In PvE: Fire string + rodgort invocation is also fun to use with barrage (maybe also conjure fire but thats alot of slots).

Stormlord Alex

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Firey strings are indeed good with Mark of Rodgort, Conjure flame etc., but they don't work with Orders... I like Zealous if I run Concussion Shot and Vamp if I don't. ^^

Uzul

Uzul

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if you put points into fire and go with mark of rodgort then conjure flame + fiery string or a conflagration spirit might be an idea.
however, vampiric and zealous is the place to be. ^^

Loki Seiguro

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another one of these threads eh? Barrage bow string i would go with hornbow and sundering or vamp string or zealous depends..

jimmy_logic

jimmy_logic

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Vampiric FTW... the others like Zealous should be used when needed. Expertise should cut down the cost of ranger skills but the spells like Conjure etc cost a bit to keep up, especially in long battles.

Uzul

Uzul

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Arctic Tundra

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since we are talking about barrage - man I love Flail (nightfall, warrior.str)

onerabbit

onerabbit

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

ive always used zealous..just for the extra energy, makes arrage spammable, cost 5 energy..hit 6 foes gain 6 energy.

Muk Utep

Muk Utep

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

For the R/E variant, an elemental bowstring of your choice to go with Conjure Flame/Frost/Whatever.

Otherwise: Vampiric, Zealous or Sundering. My personal favorite Barrage build is a R/P using a Sundering 15^50 of Fortitude. Barrage goes nicely with "Go for the Eyes!", and "Stand Your Ground!" is an excellent support skill as well. "Find Their Weakness!" has its uses too, if you can manage the energy.

dt the healer

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Austrlia

never really like vamp, the -1degen frustraes me a lil.
Havnet yet tyred zealous and looking foward to doing so.
Elemental has always been a favourite to get that extra 10 or so damge.
But still, i cant see an out right favourite

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Vamp is my favorite for barrage. But sometimes I'll go with sundering when I don't wanna deal with the -1 health generation or bother switching bows between fights.

Vexed

Vexed

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Join Date: Dec 2006

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The only time I WOULDN'T run vamp when barraging is if I were using conjure fire + mark of rodgort.

+5 unconditional damage on every arrow? Yes, please. And with Barrage only costing 5e (that's 3 energy with 9 expertise), you will practically regen the lost energy by the time you fire the next volley. If you happen to get enough shots off in a row to get low on energy, then, MAYBE, you switch to a zealous string for a couple shots.

Honestly, if the -1 degen from vamp worries you, then you've got bad times ahead. That's why you keep another weapon on switch for when you're not fighting.

Nickhimself

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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True Gods Of War [True]

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Vamp or Zealous. They're equally as good.

Jedimagician

Jedimagician

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the g-string! jks... if you have a good puller then vamp.. bad puller then sunder and if you run out of energy then zealous..imo

JR

JR

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Sundering is complete trash.

Vampiric for killing things, Zealous if you need energy - swap between them, that's what weapon sets are for.

Angelic demoness

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Reading this thread and the price check forum I am somewhat puzzled. People here seem to value vampiric bows pretty highly, yet when I got Chiggen's Shortbow and went to check the price, it seems people can barely even give it away for free. Is there a reason behind this that I am missing? Not that I plan on selling it, I love it, especially with barrage - makes me feel invincible

Does-it-Matter

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I would guess that it's due to it being a short bow. It's faster, sure, but it doesn't have the range that a lot of Rangers like to have.

Darksun

Darksun

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Join Date: May 2005

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Zelous ftw. Makes almost everything spamable. I don't really have a problem with health when I'm barraging. There are so many ways to evade with a Ranger.

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by marshy man
that is if ur using all 6 shots
Barrage shoots 7 Arrows, not 6.

Quote:
Originally Posted by onerabbit
makes Barrage spammable, cost 5 energy..hit 6 foes gain 6 energy.
Barrage is already spammable costs 3 or 2 energy after expertise, you gain about 2 energy in between your wait for next shot, thats about 1 energy for barrage.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nickhimself
Vamp or Zealous. They're equally as good.
Wrong Vamp gives you the extra "damage" and zealous gives you the energy to use other skills.They are both good in their own area , thats a better way to say it


Quote:
Originally Posted by jedimagician
the g-string! jks... if you have a good puller then vamp.. bad puller then sunder and if you run out of energy then zealous..imo
Somewhat vague but he/she gots a point , depends on the situtation.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JR-
Sundering is complete trash.
Coudnt agree with you more

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksun
Zelous ftw. Makes almost everything spamable. I don't really have a problem with health when I'm barraging. There are so many ways to evade with a Ranger
Remember GW is a team game, maybe you dont need the health but you could be helping your team with it.Add a vampiric mod to that bow get monk as secondary put vigorous spirit and infuse health and barrage in your bar.
(Let your monk know what your doing)
Use infuse on anyone that his/her health is dropping fast and near death,Hit the mob groups twice and your health is back to full you saved your teammate and helped your monk.


Edit: Angelic: Look at the skin, it has the same skin as a caged shortbow,greens sell for good money if they have a nice skin, cause theyr mods are not changeble the skin is the only thing that matters. (Drago's ,Urgozz's etc )

GODh

GODh

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Join Date: Nov 2005

The Netherlands

BFTW and DLRR

I think the best bowstring for barrage just depends on the situation... i have all 4 weaponslots equiped:

* 1 zealous when i need energy
* 1 vampiric for doing most damage while playing in a b/p team (but only when i can hit a few enemies at once)
* 1 sundering (between fights or when i am too lazy to switch bows, or when fighting only 1 enemy)
* 1 elemental bowstring when not playing in a b/p team (with elemental damage you wont gain the benefits of winnowing/order of the vampire/order of pain)

Yichi

Yichi

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by JR-
Vampiric for killing things, Zealous if you need energy - swap between them, that's what weapon sets are for.
ding ding ding. we have a winner.

I personally switch between both quite often. both can work wonders

God Apprentice

God Apprentice

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/N

Use either Vamp or Zealous, I prefer Vamp and with good positioning you will be seeing numbers fly across the screen when arrows hit .Same can apply top Zealous.

dt the healer

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Austrlia

Yer, i think we have a draw, Zealous and vamp should both be used for a barrage ranger. But now i am curious about attribute points, what are the best att points for a b/p?

Thanks!

Stormlord Alex

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Drucilla

Drucilla

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I prefer a zealous string when running my Barrage ranger. I'll run a monk secondary so i can utilize vigorous spirit as well. It's a great energy/health management combo, imo.

ShadowsRequiem

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Angelic demoness
Reading this thread and the price check forum I am somewhat puzzled. People here seem to value vampiric bows pretty highly, yet when I got Chiggen's Shortbow and went to check the price, it seems people can barely even give it away for free. Is there a reason behind this that I am missing? Not that I plan on selling it, I love it, especially with barrage - makes me feel invincible
Thats because most pve players are ignorant and believe that sundering is the best mod ever and hate vamp because it has a measly -1 degen on it.

icedragon981

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I prefer Zealous but Vamp is just as good. As for attributes, I usually run 16 Marksmanship, 10 Expertiese, and 10 Wilderness Survival.

Nestaron

Nestaron

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I never have energy troubles when i barrage... So therefor i never use Zealous, so i don't really value it! Vamp is a must in my opinion though. The lifestealing feature is just way to tasty for it not to be!

SparhawkJC

SparhawkJC

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I also use vamp because I never have energy problems running barrage with a 16/13/4 Marksmanship/Expertise/Wilderness Survival split. Even back when I ran with only 9 expertise I only ran into energy troubles if I spammed Savage Shot too often.