Hello
i stopped playing Guildwars/FA for abouth 3-5Months and iam thinking of going back so i just installed it,seems like theres been lot's and lot's of changes in the game just heard fro friends that ton of stuff gott nerfed Etc so i wonder will Nightfall be worth those 40bucks is it really worth it cause when i got Faction i thought it was kinda of a letdown and now when the economi is messed up so i heard that wll just decrease play value. so what you think is it still worth getting those it still hold the same class as Prophecis did. oh yeah are there any Elite Areas in NF like elite mission/FoW/UW stype of things?
Is there any reason to get now NF?
Nexium
Stormcloud
If you play for fun yes, if you play to get rich no.
People who play to get rich dont like it anymore. But people who play for fun can now afford nice weapons and good mods. And we cant forget heroes!
I have a blast with nightfall, I dont play to get rich but im never broke. I think its a good balance on the PVE side right now for the economy. Its not perfect but the average player stands a chance.
*edit* I would rate it right up there with Prophecies in playability. Factions was a letdown for me as well.
People who play to get rich dont like it anymore. But people who play for fun can now afford nice weapons and good mods. And we cant forget heroes!
I have a blast with nightfall, I dont play to get rich but im never broke. I think its a good balance on the PVE side right now for the economy. Its not perfect but the average player stands a chance.
*edit* I would rate it right up there with Prophecies in playability. Factions was a letdown for me as well.
Bankai
I love Nightfall myself. No more rushing, no fighting 100 respawning guys that explode when you kill them, no levelling to levl 20 in 3 minutes. Nice storyline, good missions, love heroes. Skills are also great. Dervish is a nice profession to play, but there are too many of them in NF, and paragon is boring but people want them.
Grolubao
In the overall it's really worth it. They have ruined the AI, but that's global, not only on NF.
Guildmaster Cain
Several reasons prioritized:
1: Heroes
2: Pwn Heroes
3: No more annoying partymembers, cos u got ur own Heroes
4: Heroes that can interrupt 1/4 cast time skills
5: Heroes that can spam skills like a frantic hyperactive monkey
6: Hero Healer with 1/4 cast time can outheal ANY spike dmg
Did I tell you yet how great the storyline is (technically you could uncover it by just reading all the spoilers, but still good storyline). Oooh.... and dont forget about heroes!
Ok, Heroes might make u play less with players, but at least they get u to places. Glint and THK are VERY easy with heroes. Actually u can kill mursaat without being infused, cos of the Hasted Healer.
And if u want to go for fun, just team up with guildies, both take 2 Searing Flames Heroes and u can kill whole groups of lvl 24 in 4 secs. Regular friends are more fun then randoms (often at least), if not, get a new guild that suits better.
1: Heroes
2: Pwn Heroes
3: No more annoying partymembers, cos u got ur own Heroes
4: Heroes that can interrupt 1/4 cast time skills
5: Heroes that can spam skills like a frantic hyperactive monkey
6: Hero Healer with 1/4 cast time can outheal ANY spike dmg
Did I tell you yet how great the storyline is (technically you could uncover it by just reading all the spoilers, but still good storyline). Oooh.... and dont forget about heroes!
Ok, Heroes might make u play less with players, but at least they get u to places. Glint and THK are VERY easy with heroes. Actually u can kill mursaat without being infused, cos of the Hasted Healer.
And if u want to go for fun, just team up with guildies, both take 2 Searing Flames Heroes and u can kill whole groups of lvl 24 in 4 secs. Regular friends are more fun then randoms (often at least), if not, get a new guild that suits better.
Jaml
There are shops that already sell Nightfall at reduced prices. If you can find one its a good deal. For full price i don´t know. If you are only into PvE then go for it. But it brings nothing new to the table for PvP except Hero vs Hero but no one plays that cause it sucks.
drekmonger
I'm a PvP player, and I hated the PvE campaigns in both Prophecies and Factions. I enjoyed the PvE campaign in Nightfall.
I also enjoy good HvH matches, although a good match can be hard to find and will continue to be hard to find until the ladder is in place. There are many PvP players who dislike HvH (and further, wrongfully assume all PvP players hate HvH), so your mileage may vary in this regard.
So, my answer is yes. NF is worth buying.
I also enjoy good HvH matches, although a good match can be hard to find and will continue to be hard to find until the ladder is in place. There are many PvP players who dislike HvH (and further, wrongfully assume all PvP players hate HvH), so your mileage may vary in this regard.
So, my answer is yes. NF is worth buying.
Nexium
hmm ok few things iam still skeptic about is the heroes to me it sounds like why whould you ever want to play whith other real ppl,for me the fun part in the ''old'' Gw was teaming up(although sometime you do get unlucky and end up whith a-holes) so this thing whith heroes sounds to me that it will isolate you from other ppl evenmore?
and i used to play GW ''alot'' before did everything the game had to offer you,butafter a while all you can do is get richFarm farm and farm even more that was all the game had to offer cause what ells where you gonna do,now when they seemed to have nerfed this if you will iam pretty much afraid that i will get bored really really fast of the game cause i have nothing to gain while iam playing it sounds like iam just greedy here hehe but if i play FoW Elite ore what ever for3-4H id like to get something out of it allso.how do you get Gold and stuff for you'r Fow armor now when the economi is bad ore low as it is?
are there any elite areas in NF like FoW and such.
has request for monk droped to Zero now whith the new Heores and all Monk was my favorite Class to play.
and i used to play GW ''alot'' before did everything the game had to offer you,butafter a while all you can do is get richFarm farm and farm even more that was all the game had to offer cause what ells where you gonna do,now when they seemed to have nerfed this if you will iam pretty much afraid that i will get bored really really fast of the game cause i have nothing to gain while iam playing it sounds like iam just greedy here hehe but if i play FoW Elite ore what ever for3-4H id like to get something out of it allso.how do you get Gold and stuff for you'r Fow armor now when the economi is bad ore low as it is?
are there any elite areas in NF like FoW and such.
has request for monk droped to Zero now whith the new Heores and all Monk was my favorite Class to play.
Malice Black
DoA is the NF elite area...it's tough (more so then any other elite area) but it's beatable..just ignore the DoA haters.
NF isn't a bad game but it's fairly short and overall it's a bit on the easy side. It's worth playing but after you rolled out 2-3 chars you will be bored.
NF isn't a bad game but it's fairly short and overall it's a bit on the easy side. It's worth playing but after you rolled out 2-3 chars you will be bored.
NJudson
I have had Prophecies for over a year now and with some Xmas money I received I was thinking of picking up Factions or Nightfall. From what I've read on the forum, the general consensus is that Nightfall is much better than Factions.
Personally, I'm strictly a PvE player and I've heard that Factions is a bit too PvP heavy...at least for us PvE players. I also read that since Nightfall has been out then I'd probably have a tough time getting into PUG for missions and quests in Factions. I usually don't like to take henchman because I like PUG much better. If I did go with Nightfall, then I'd hate to miss out on playing a ritualist or assasin, but then again...would I be more satisfied with the game overall?
Personally, I'm strictly a PvE player and I've heard that Factions is a bit too PvP heavy...at least for us PvE players. I also read that since Nightfall has been out then I'd probably have a tough time getting into PUG for missions and quests in Factions. I usually don't like to take henchman because I like PUG much better. If I did go with Nightfall, then I'd hate to miss out on playing a ritualist or assasin, but then again...would I be more satisfied with the game overall?
Nexium
Really what is there to do after you finished the whole game you rolled out 2-3chars then what? the only thing there is to do is farming right? and it seems that most have been nerfed so that will kill the play value of the game and if you go to elite areas whats the point in selling those items if you wont get anything from them. iam a bit confused
what got me stop playing last time was the lack of things to do and the repetive farming and UW/FoW runs Elite Missions. now when they removed/nefed it seems what the heck is there to do.
what got me stop playing last time was the lack of things to do and the repetive farming and UW/FoW runs Elite Missions. now when they removed/nefed it seems what the heck is there to do.
GourangaPizza
^ Njudson
Don't get Factions first. Its damn empty everywhere except Kaineng. You will be having difficulty completing some of its missions with hench instead of having real players or heroes.
Oh did I mention that very few people play competitive missions.(Eg. Fort Asp. and Jade Quarry).
Don't get Factions first. Its damn empty everywhere except Kaineng. You will be having difficulty completing some of its missions with hench instead of having real players or heroes.
Oh did I mention that very few people play competitive missions.(Eg. Fort Asp. and Jade Quarry).
freekedoutfish
Im assuming that means youve only played Factions?
Not prophercies and obviously not nightfall?
If thats the case, then im not surprised you werent impressed because factions awfull compared to the other two.
Nightfall is a vast improvement on factions and prophercies is just great.
Id recommend trying nightfall out, because it will re-kindle your faith in Anet.
Its got around 20 missions compared to 13 in factions. It has Heroes which are just far improved Henches. It has a reasonable story-line.
Its just better all round.
If you havent got prophercies either, then Id recommend that before any other though.
Not prophercies and obviously not nightfall?
If thats the case, then im not surprised you werent impressed because factions awfull compared to the other two.
Nightfall is a vast improvement on factions and prophercies is just great.
Id recommend trying nightfall out, because it will re-kindle your faith in Anet.
Its got around 20 missions compared to 13 in factions. It has Heroes which are just far improved Henches. It has a reasonable story-line.
Its just better all round.
If you havent got prophercies either, then Id recommend that before any other though.
getalifebud
One reason to get nightfall, collectors edition is now the same price as the regular edition.
Kais Unduli
If all you do is farm farm farm, then no, the game isn't worth picking up. There are a great many things to do in game regarding both pvp and pve. However, if you are of the mindset that believes farming is the way to enjoy the game, then it won't be worth it to you.
lyra_song
I would pick up nightfall just for the heroes option alone.
They make questing in the older games so much easier.
They make questing in the older games so much easier.
Nexium
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If all you do is farm farm farm, then no, the game isn't worth picking up. There are a great many things to do in game regarding both pvp and pve. However, if you are of the mindset that believes farming is the way to enjoy the game, then it won't be worth it to you.
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and i don't pvp a whole lot,basicly i want to know what is there to do after you rolled out 3-4chars and done all the quest you had,i mean theres gotta be something to keep you intrested in playing otherwise iam afraid ill get really bored.
i mean i havent heard any of the options you have after you finished all the quests in the game.
Vinraith
I got back into the game recently after a long absence. I'm very much a PvE player, and I've greatly enjoyed both Factions and Nightfall. NF really is worth it for the heroes alone, as they fill gaps in groups far better than henchmen ever could. Factions is gorgeous and the environments are wholly unlike anything I've seen in a fantasy RPG before. The plot in both cases seems to be fairly strong, although I miss the class specific quests which seem to have been cut from Nightfall and make the early game somewhat repetitive.
Ansgar Two Hand
I've enjoyed NF far more than the other two, especially Factions. One of the annoying things in factions is how you're often blocked from wandering into new areas without certain quests or missions; they got a little crazy with that. In NF, I walked to the Gate of Desolation in about 40 minutes from the time I completed Consulate Docks. You have a lot of freedom of movement, it's just that the mission locations remain normal towns or outposts until it's time to do them.
None of the new things are really hard to get used to, the game looks great, and there are plenty of opportunities to do whatever it is you like to do. You don't have to pay $40 for it, either, lots of places have it on sale.
None of the new things are really hard to get used to, the game looks great, and there are plenty of opportunities to do whatever it is you like to do. You don't have to pay $40 for it, either, lots of places have it on sale.
Macktar Wang
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(I bought my copy online for $29.99. Look around, and you'll probably find it for about that price.)
Ninna
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basicly i want to know what is there to do after you rolled out 3-4chars and done all the quest you had,i mean theres gotta be something to keep you intrested in playing otherwise iam afraid ill get really bored.
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wait for next chapter after you get bored
NF is my favorite chapter of the 3
Sir Skullcrasher
Nightfall has alot of improvement over Factions. You get hero units that you can customized and help you with quests or missions. You got a better storyline that actually make sense. We finally get lip-sync for all the cinema in-game. There is ton of weapons and items for you to collect. Overall, Nightfall is a great game.
Dutch Masterr
factions is now only good for alliance battles, which im still addicted to. nightfall has great gameplay and is actually challenging, unlike factions. im not very fond of heros and still prefer henches, but thats just me. compared to prophecies and factions, you dont level up as slow as prophecies or as fast as factions. the storyline is very long, almost as long as prophecies. when i got it, i beat it within a week, but thats because i played it nearly 24/7 =P.......get nightfall, its great.
Ninna
one more perk for Nightfall,
the Elona keyless Treasures have been confirmed as being permanent
Wiki
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Treasure
all 12 treasures will net you 25k + gold items/gems (per character)
the Elona keyless Treasures have been confirmed as being permanent
Wiki
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Treasure
all 12 treasures will net you 25k + gold items/gems (per character)
NJudson
Thanks for everyone's input on Factions vs Nightfall. I think I will get Nightfall; however, I am a bit dissapointed that I won't be able to play a ritualist....was kinda looking forward to that. Unless I'm mistaken ritualists and assasins aren't available in the Nightfall game are they?
freekedoutfish
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Thanks for everyone's input on Factions vs Nightfall. I think I will get Nightfall; however, I am a bit dissapointed that I won't be able to play a ritualist....was kinda looking forward to that. Unless I'm mistaken ritualists and assasins aren't available in the Nightfall game are they?
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Any professions added after prophercies are unique to the campaign in which
they are introduced.
So you have....
<b>Prophercies:</b> All core professions only.
<b>Factions:</b> All core professions + Assassin and Ritualist.
<b>Night Fall:</b> All core professions + Dervish and Para-thingy.
<b>Future campaigns:</b> All core professions + new unqie profession.
I think its a good thing.
Professions they add should reflect the new campaign, its location and its culture. So it makes sense that they are only available on that island or continent.
The core professions are available on all, because they are the stereptypical professions of most role playing games.
Plus its a good sales technique for Anet to encourage us to purchase the other games.
You can how-ever take any character you have created in factions, over to nightfall and play through the entire campaign with it. So you can use a Ritualist or an Assasin if you have created one already.
NJudson
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
You get all the core professions in all 3 existing and future campaigns.
. . . You can how-ever take any character you have created in factions, over to nightfall and play through the entire campaign with it. So you can use a Ritualist or an Assasin if you have created one already. |
Muk Utep
Nightfall is worth the money. If nothing else, then for the skills - there's a lot of very good skills in NF. The campaign is also quite good, definitely better than Factions IMO, and the two new professions are very nice.
And heroes. Whether or not people believe they ruined the game, they're darn handy.
And heroes. Whether or not people believe they ruined the game, they're darn handy.
realoddsman
Actually, despite what alot of people think, the new skills and shit for Rits/Assassins in NF were a semi-rushed addition since many people bitched about it as usual, and Anet saw it as an advantage to synergize for the previous chapter (Factions).
realoddsman
New profession-wise, Id give NF a 7/10. Dervish is ok overall. In PVE they are anecdotal like assassins. Paragons have their uses here and there - definitely more versetile than a rit, but not as useful imo (PVE still).
The core professions get more of generally the same set of skills.
The absolute main addition that you should get is the heros. By Chapter 4, all the previous chapters will be ghostly empty, so now you'll have heroes to kill shit with.
The core professions get more of generally the same set of skills.
The absolute main addition that you should get is the heros. By Chapter 4, all the previous chapters will be ghostly empty, so now you'll have heroes to kill shit with.
CagedinSanity
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Originally Posted by Stormcloud
If you play for fun yes, if you play to get rich no.
People who play to get rich dont like it anymore. But people who play for fun can now afford nice weapons and good mods. And we cant forget heroes! I have a blast with nightfall, I dont play to get rich but im never broke. I think its a good balance on the PVE side right now for the economy. Its not perfect but the average player stands a chance. *edit* I would rate it right up there with Prophecies in playability. Factions was a letdown for me as well. |