Is there any reason to get now NF?

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Nexium
Krytan Explorer
#1
Hello

i stopped playing Guildwars/FA for abouth 3-5Months and iam thinking of going back so i just installed it,seems like theres been lot's and lot's of changes in the game just heard fro friends that ton of stuff gott nerfed Etc so i wonder will Nightfall be worth those 40bucks is it really worth it cause when i got Faction i thought it was kinda of a letdown and now when the economi is messed up so i heard that wll just decrease play value. so what you think is it still worth getting those it still hold the same class as Prophecis did. oh yeah are there any Elite Areas in NF like elite mission/FoW/UW stype of things?
Stormcloud
Stormcloud
Lion's Arch Merchant
#2
If you play for fun yes, if you play to get rich no.

People who play to get rich dont like it anymore. But people who play for fun can now afford nice weapons and good mods. And we cant forget heroes!

I have a blast with nightfall, I dont play to get rich but im never broke. I think its a good balance on the PVE side right now for the economy. Its not perfect but the average player stands a chance.

*edit* I would rate it right up there with Prophecies in playability. Factions was a letdown for me as well.
Bankai
Bankai
Desert Nomad
#3
I love Nightfall myself. No more rushing, no fighting 100 respawning guys that explode when you kill them, no levelling to levl 20 in 3 minutes. Nice storyline, good missions, love heroes. Skills are also great. Dervish is a nice profession to play, but there are too many of them in NF, and paragon is boring but people want them.
Grolubao
Grolubao
Frost Gate Guardian
#4
In the overall it's really worth it. They have ruined the AI, but that's global, not only on NF.
Guildmaster Cain
Guildmaster Cain
Desert Nomad
#5
Several reasons prioritized:

1: Heroes
2: Pwn Heroes
3: No more annoying partymembers, cos u got ur own Heroes
4: Heroes that can interrupt 1/4 cast time skills
5: Heroes that can spam skills like a frantic hyperactive monkey
6: Hero Healer with 1/4 cast time can outheal ANY spike dmg


Did I tell you yet how great the storyline is (technically you could uncover it by just reading all the spoilers, but still good storyline). Oooh.... and dont forget about heroes!

Ok, Heroes might make u play less with players, but at least they get u to places. Glint and THK are VERY easy with heroes. Actually u can kill mursaat without being infused, cos of the Hasted Healer.
And if u want to go for fun, just team up with guildies, both take 2 Searing Flames Heroes and u can kill whole groups of lvl 24 in 4 secs. Regular friends are more fun then randoms (often at least), if not, get a new guild that suits better.
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Jaml
Ascalonian Squire
#6
There are shops that already sell Nightfall at reduced prices. If you can find one its a good deal. For full price i don´t know. If you are only into PvE then go for it. But it brings nothing new to the table for PvP except Hero vs Hero but no one plays that cause it sucks.
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drekmonger
Frost Gate Guardian
#7
I'm a PvP player, and I hated the PvE campaigns in both Prophecies and Factions. I enjoyed the PvE campaign in Nightfall.

I also enjoy good HvH matches, although a good match can be hard to find and will continue to be hard to find until the ladder is in place. There are many PvP players who dislike HvH (and further, wrongfully assume all PvP players hate HvH), so your mileage may vary in this regard.

So, my answer is yes. NF is worth buying.
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Nexium
Krytan Explorer
#8
hmm ok few things iam still skeptic about is the heroes to me it sounds like why whould you ever want to play whith other real ppl,for me the fun part in the ''old'' Gw was teaming up(although sometime you do get unlucky and end up whith a-holes) so this thing whith heroes sounds to me that it will isolate you from other ppl evenmore?

and i used to play GW ''alot'' before did everything the game had to offer you,butafter a while all you can do is get richFarm farm and farm even more that was all the game had to offer cause what ells where you gonna do,now when they seemed to have nerfed this if you will iam pretty much afraid that i will get bored really really fast of the game cause i have nothing to gain while iam playing it sounds like iam just greedy here hehe but if i play FoW Elite ore what ever for3-4H id like to get something out of it allso.how do you get Gold and stuff for you'r Fow armor now when the economi is bad ore low as it is?
are there any elite areas in NF like FoW and such.

has request for monk droped to Zero now whith the new Heores and all Monk was my favorite Class to play.
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Malice Black
Site Legend
#9
DoA is the NF elite area...it's tough (more so then any other elite area) but it's beatable..just ignore the DoA haters.

NF isn't a bad game but it's fairly short and overall it's a bit on the easy side. It's worth playing but after you rolled out 2-3 chars you will be bored.
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NJudson
Krytan Explorer
#10
I have had Prophecies for over a year now and with some Xmas money I received I was thinking of picking up Factions or Nightfall. From what I've read on the forum, the general consensus is that Nightfall is much better than Factions.

Personally, I'm strictly a PvE player and I've heard that Factions is a bit too PvP heavy...at least for us PvE players. I also read that since Nightfall has been out then I'd probably have a tough time getting into PUG for missions and quests in Factions. I usually don't like to take henchman because I like PUG much better. If I did go with Nightfall, then I'd hate to miss out on playing a ritualist or assasin, but then again...would I be more satisfied with the game overall?
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Nexium
Krytan Explorer
#11
Really what is there to do after you finished the whole game you rolled out 2-3chars then what? the only thing there is to do is farming right? and it seems that most have been nerfed so that will kill the play value of the game and if you go to elite areas whats the point in selling those items if you wont get anything from them. iam a bit confused
what got me stop playing last time was the lack of things to do and the repetive farming and UW/FoW runs Elite Missions. now when they removed/nefed it seems what the heck is there to do.
GourangaPizza
GourangaPizza
Krytan Explorer
#12
^ Njudson

Don't get Factions first. Its damn empty everywhere except Kaineng. You will be having difficulty completing some of its missions with hench instead of having real players or heroes.

Oh did I mention that very few people play competitive missions.(Eg. Fort Asp. and Jade Quarry).
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freekedoutfish
Furnace Stoker
#13
Im assuming that means youve only played Factions?

Not prophercies and obviously not nightfall?

If thats the case, then im not surprised you werent impressed because factions awfull compared to the other two.

Nightfall is a vast improvement on factions and prophercies is just great.

Id recommend trying nightfall out, because it will re-kindle your faith in Anet.

Its got around 20 missions compared to 13 in factions. It has Heroes which are just far improved Henches. It has a reasonable story-line.

Its just better all round.

If you havent got prophercies either, then Id recommend that before any other though.
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getalifebud
Frost Gate Guardian
#14
One reason to get nightfall, collectors edition is now the same price as the regular edition.
Kais Unduli
Kais Unduli
Wilds Pathfinder
#15
If all you do is farm farm farm, then no, the game isn't worth picking up. There are a great many things to do in game regarding both pvp and pve. However, if you are of the mindset that believes farming is the way to enjoy the game, then it won't be worth it to you.
lyra_song
lyra_song
Hell's Protector
#16
I would pick up nightfall just for the heroes option alone.

They make questing in the older games so much easier.
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Nexium
Krytan Explorer
#17
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Originally Posted by Kais Unduli
If all you do is farm farm farm, then no, the game isn't worth picking up. There are a great many things to do in game regarding both pvp and pve. However, if you are of the mindset that believes farming is the way to enjoy the game, then it won't be worth it to you.
No No Reason i farmed is cause i have 4-5 lvl20 chars in FA And prophecis ive done pretty much you could do in the game all Quest's this is what i mean what ellse is there to after all that iam not a farming freak but when it comes down to it all you do really is farm ore go UW runs Fow Run's ore even elite missions which all of those are a form of farming right?
and i don't pvp a whole lot,basicly i want to know what is there to do after you rolled out 3-4chars and done all the quest you had,i mean theres gotta be something to keep you intrested in playing otherwise iam afraid ill get really bored.
i mean i havent heard any of the options you have after you finished all the quests in the game.
Vinraith
Vinraith
Desert Nomad
#18
I got back into the game recently after a long absence. I'm very much a PvE player, and I've greatly enjoyed both Factions and Nightfall. NF really is worth it for the heroes alone, as they fill gaps in groups far better than henchmen ever could. Factions is gorgeous and the environments are wholly unlike anything I've seen in a fantasy RPG before. The plot in both cases seems to be fairly strong, although I miss the class specific quests which seem to have been cut from Nightfall and make the early game somewhat repetitive.
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Ansgar Two Hand
Ascalonian Squire
#19
I've enjoyed NF far more than the other two, especially Factions. One of the annoying things in factions is how you're often blocked from wandering into new areas without certain quests or missions; they got a little crazy with that. In NF, I walked to the Gate of Desolation in about 40 minutes from the time I completed Consulate Docks. You have a lot of freedom of movement, it's just that the mission locations remain normal towns or outposts until it's time to do them.

None of the new things are really hard to get used to, the game looks great, and there are plenty of opportunities to do whatever it is you like to do. You don't have to pay $40 for it, either, lots of places have it on sale.
Macktar Wang
Macktar Wang
Lion's Arch Merchant
#20
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
I would pick up nightfall just for the heroes option alone.

They make questing in the older games so much easier.
This is the reason I bought the game, actually. I figured if nothing else, the heroes would help me finish some things in Prophecies and Factions that no one wants to help with anymore. They (the heroes) definitely were capable in that aspect, and the Nightfall game ended up being worth it too! So, in my opinion, Nightfall is worth it.

(I bought my copy online for $29.99. Look around, and you'll probably find it for about that price.)