Dye Sheen, We Need More.

Draxanoth

Draxanoth

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Washington

Archons of the Condemned

W/Me

I've recently been quite lost with the new dye system. It's very annoying how limited the colors are on most armor sets. Black is like adding dark purple on quite a few. 65% of all combinations come out as purple. The lack of the old dye remover to invert stuff makes me sad as well.

The old dye system was better for.. sheen? I'm not sure that's the right word to explain it. We need that back while keeping the solid coloring provided now. I personally liked the old dye better, but they have both seemed like half a system. It's like we were missing a slider.

Assuming what we're working with now is Color + Material it's placed on, we need a way to change the properties of the second one. Sorta of like adding coal to your red, or monstrous eye juice to make your yellow "shine". Silver really only abuses shadowing now, and white is like dipping stuff in white, not adding white to it. You add a single white to yellow and it literally sucks the yellow out. We need a way to keep the color while changing it's intensity and shine.

We need suggestions, someone who knows more about art than I do would probably be best. *Laughs*

Gimme Money Plzkthx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

/signed Bring back dye remover for two reasons: one, it increases dye combos. Two, if you dye a weapon, you cannot get it back to its original color with gray dye. Fix it anet.

Knight Othin Of War

Knight Othin Of War

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Spartan Warrior Elite

W/Mo

i agree, i prefered the old system too
/Signed

ducktape

ducktape

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/R

I don't really have a preference to either dye system as long as we have the dye preview, but anything that gives us the most options for dye combinations certainly has my vote!

/signed

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

I agree. New dye system sucks.

broodijzer

broodijzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

void

Mo/

/signed

preview dye rocks, but it just seems there aren't any kickass dye combinations anymore. I loved the red + dye remover combo on an armor of me, now it's impossible to recreate it

FelixCarter

FelixCarter

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

/Signed

At least bring back Dye Remover. I think this has been discussed in another thread. Repitition never killed anyone.

Wesyrine

Wesyrine

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

/signed

Bring back the dye remover please.

Draxanoth

Draxanoth

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Washington

Archons of the Condemned

W/Me

Good to know I'm not totally insane. The new dye system feels more open, but I think that's the preview window doing it's magic. I'm not sure how dye remover would work with the new one's. We need something, just doesn't seem like there's as much variety. You might be half a shade different from the guy next to you with 40k in black tossed in, but it's hardly noticeable.

The Hand Of Death

The Hand Of Death

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

N/

Ok so I have a story.

I just bought my paragorn a new set of armor and was struggling to find a nice gold color with the dyes. By accident I put two yellow dyes in the window. The color on the armor was a nice bright gold color and I was amazed by it. When I clicked "apply dye" it didn't apply giving me the error, "you cannot apply two of the same color dyes to one armor". Now the color was a good amount different, here is a picture:





Now I dont know how noticable it is in the picture but it is very noticable in game and I was mad that I couldnt have that color. Dye system does need to change.

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

/signed

Bring back Dye remover and make the same dye stackible...just like the pic above me.

KingKryton

KingKryton

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

New Zealand

W/Mo

i wish we could view the dyes before we buy. kinda pointless buying a black dye to try then finding its not to your liking.So you just end up wasting 9k

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

I've been unhappy with the dye system from the first. The preview window is great, but the colors just don't work the same, and I got quite irritated when we were told that you can replicate every old dye combo. That just isn't true, obviously. Something needs to be done.

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by KingKryton
i wish we could view the dyes before we buy. kinda pointless buying a black dye to try then finding its not to your liking.So you just end up wasting 9k

EEEEXACTLY! And of course my sword is still raised high at fixing the Tyrian Pyromancer robes.

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

yah, the system is bunk... the preview window, white dye,black dye, and brown dye can stay, but now bring back the rest of the old stuff.

still got blood red dye on my necro armor
i had a chance to get enough white dye,black, red, and all others to test all possible ways to get blood red again; turns out = not possible.

needs to be fixed

Perynne

Perynne

Site Contributor

Join Date: Oct 2006

Finland

Runners of the Rose [RR]

R/

/signed

Gray dye doesn't work like dye remover, so it was a poor switch. Gray itself is a nice dye to have, but I'd like to have it alongside dye remover.

Elena

Elena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Belgium

yeah i agree the new dye system lacks variety

Gingetsuryuu

Gingetsuryuu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Ryuu Jin

Me/Mo

/signed for more dye combinations
/unsigned if it means removing the preview, as this allows me to hoard 3 of every color to test out and stuff

ayame ftw

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Belgium

Forgot the Ghostlyyyyy

R/

the color u see in preview <> color when its applied on the armor

Curar Partida

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Halfway To Hell

Mo/

/signed
dye remover

Mairiiv

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Nulled[void]

/signed
I concur, I got myself some 15k Kurzick armour recently for my ranger, the dye preview works wonderfull except whatever dye combination I tried out I got about 3-4 colours...

Pickle

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Scotland

R/

I left the game for a while and came back to the new dye system. I still have some of my mixed vials, which I notice you cant make anymore. I have never found out if they changed the system for a reason?

Any way /signed.

daraaksii

daraaksii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

/signed.. I can't understand why A-net changed the armor's normal color instead of a new dye.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ayame ftw
the color u see in preview <> color when its applied on the armor
That's only because of different lighting, even the parts that don't dye at all will look different in the preview.

And I don't really mind. The only thing I actually minded was when I got the Ranger collector's armor, which I really liked in yellow, which is originally was, but I like the warrior collector's armor better in gray for example, so I guess that's not more then opinion. But dye remover is nothing more then the dye that was originally on it when the armor was obtained. So instead of buying 4 Dye Removers, you'll have to buy four dyes, who cares? That's less then 1K difference.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

And another thing, lol. It really bugs me that I can still see the original bluish color on the dervish skirt, at the edges, under the gray dye that Anet just slapped on top of everything. They did a lousy job of putting that gray dye on everything, too. I could do better in MS Paint. Jeeze.