Whats going on Arena Net?!

N19h7m4r3

N19h7m4r3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

My lovely little apartment.

None

W/

I just logged on today to find out that I suddenly gained a death from nowhere.
Last night just before I logged off I had 0 deaths and I was trying to gain the second tier of Survivor.

How can I suddenly have a death if I wasnt even on at the time?

dudeimoncoke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

someone logged on your character and died? Or you were lagging while fighting or something and you died while your computer was turning off?

mega_jamie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

UK

Warlords of Ruin

A/Mo

if you logge dout in themiddle of a fight then it sometimes adds you a death.

N19h7m4r3

N19h7m4r3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

My lovely little apartment.

None

W/

Neither is a possibility since no one knows my password and I was in Beacon's Perch when I logged off

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

That sucks but there's nothing to be done about it I'm afraid. I had a similar issue quite some time ago with a survivor being killed during a cutscene (no fault of my own, died due to a bug). Contacting Anet support the response back was along the lines of "we won't roll back your character or correct your char" no matter if it was from a bug or anything.

I think the same philosophy applies if you get scammed or something unexpected happens like a result of bugs, you just gotta live with it I'm afraid.

N19h7m4r3

N19h7m4r3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

My lovely little apartment.

None

W/

Well thats it I'm done trying to get Legendary Survivor, this was my 8th attempt and this is the 6th time I've died because of a damn bug.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Millions of people die from strange bugs.

Seriously ... that sux, after putting all that time into it.

anna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

I feel your pain. My character died during the cut scene after the Vizunah Square mission last night. I guess the good thing is that I only had 290k experience.

Hell Marauder

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Yeah, happen to me a few days ago too, getting a death for no reason.
Having the chance to reset death count seems more and more like a great idea, there is a petition thread about this somewhere......

tifaRockheart

tifaRockheart

i-map person

Join Date: Apr 2005

Raisu(Rice) Palace, talking to like Suki

Hired Goons

Sad to hear that.
Others seem to have gone through a similar experience as the OP too
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10065363

It's a very strange bug.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

It's not a bug, it's a feature. *snicker*

I'm sorry that happened, though. I'd be royally pissed if it happened to me.

dpcash

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

FoC

R/E

hmmmm...


When you died, you had 201,328 XP. How did you get the other 76 XP? This may be a clue as to when you died.

I have 3 legendary survivors and 3 more in the works. I would be pissing mad if one died due to a bug.

Man, I feel your pain...

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

If you played yesterday I noticed heavy lags and hiccups. Real nasty ones in the morning of 12/28 central time. Lots of people are playing because of the holidays. Could you have possibly died, and then got resurrected by a henchmen? Before the hiccup/lag caught up? And then zoned out of the area without noticing the negative DP? This happened to me yesterday I only noticed the negative DP.

N19h7m4r3

N19h7m4r3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

My lovely little apartment.

None

W/

The reason I have an extra 76 xp is because I wanted to go see if the 1 death wasnt a glitch and that maybe I would still be able to get my title.
No such luck

Hand of Ruin

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

I think we need a forum specifically for people to come and complain when they get a death on their survivor...

BlueNovember

BlueNovember

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTS GW2 items for Zkey

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by anna
I feel your pain. My character died during the cut scene after the Vizunah Square mission last night. I guess the good thing is that I only had 290k experience.
This will not add a death to your character, not now, anyway. It was announced in an update, but I can speak from experience.

My Paragon is slowly but surely annoying FFF groups in Lutgardis dooring his way to r3 =). Best method ever.

anna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueNovember
This will not add a death to your character, not now, anyway. It was announced in an update, but I can speak from experience.

My Paragon is slowly but surely annoying FFF groups in Lutgardis dooring his way to r3 =). Best method ever.
Yeah, that seems to be the general concensus (although wiki reports that as recently as 12-19-06, the scene, for one reason or another, sometimes causes deaths, even when no minions are present).

Some people have stated that hostile minions can turn on you once Shiro slays the party in the cut scene, thus causing a death. But I don't see how any minions could have turned on me since I skipped the entire cut scene.

I also doubt that my death was due to lag. I had near a full health bar immediately before the mission ended (approximately 555HP--any missing HP was due to a few seconds degen from a vampiric bow string), so I don't think I could have experienced any significant damage or health degen between the time that we killed the last guy and the beginning of the cut scene. And I'm pretty sure that my health never dropped below 70% during the mission, so I don't think that I could have died somehow and been immediately rezzed without me knowing.

I still haven't figured out with any certainty how I died.

BlueNovember

BlueNovember

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTS GW2 items for Zkey

Mo/

There's a thread in riverside discussing Vizunah square wrt survivor.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10097408

Seems the bug may be back. :\

Survivor is indeed a most stressful title.

[DE]

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hand of Ruin
I think we need a forum specifically for people to come and complain when they get a death on their survivor...
Maybe you should read the OP's post a little closer. This is in fact a bug and it happened to me as well (though I hadn't even reached lvl 1 survivor so no big deal).

For some odd reason logging out can give you a death even if you are in a town.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

I think the Survivor title was just a really bad idea to begin with. It encourages people to quit or abandon their team when in danger of dying. And of course, there's the bug that ruins all the effort put into it anyway. I'm not dissing anyone trying to get the title, but this title, among a few others (Commander anyone?) just make the game experience a little bit worse.

anna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ernada
I think the Survivor title was just a really bad idea to begin with. It encourages people to quit or abandon their team when in danger of dying. And of course, there's the bug that ruins all the effort put into it anyway. I'm not dissing anyone trying to get the title, but this title, among a few others (Commander anyone?) just make the game experience a little bit worse.
Yeah, I think that it can encourage people to ditch their team via /resign, alt+f4, f12 or whatever. When I decided to go for the second tier of the title, I ceased partying up with real people, and decided to hero & hench my way through (heroes make Survivor soooo much more easily attainable than before) precisely because I didn't want to rudely abandon my party.

I think that if you intend to use any logoff method to prevent a death, then you should not party-up with real people, or else you should fully disclose to your party members that you are trying for Surivor and may abandon your party at any time.

Firebaall

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Interesting thought...

Could the new rejoin feature be a source of grief?

I also disagree that Anet should restore a survivor character, even due to a "bug". How many whiny kids would be sending them e-mails lying about how they died and lost the survivor title? Waaaay to many.

anna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebaall
How many whiny kids would be sending them e-mails lying about how they died and lost the survivor title?
Me, for one. LOL.

Hand of Ruin

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Phantom
Maybe you should read the OP's post a little closer. This is in fact a bug and it happened to me as well (though I hadn't even reached lvl 1 survivor so no big deal).

For some odd reason logging out can give you a death even if you are in a town.
Yea if you log out in the middle of a fight... and there's no problem with that. If you're about to die and you log out, you should get that death, because that's essentially cheating your way there.

And I know the OP and all these other threads claim they were just in a town and died and some mysterious bug killed them, but what's much more likely is that they died due to their own carelessness and don't take notice until later, or they tried to cheat death by logging out, and the death doesn't show up until later or something...

Either way, theres' so friggen many of these posts, and complaining here about mysterious bugs that ruined your survivor isn't going to bring the title back, so why bother?

Grais

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Tools

Im just surprised, and sorry for going a little OT, how the heck did you get to that point having explored so little territory ?Less than 5% of either Tyria, or Cantha,how in the world ? Seems like a tiny amount for a fairly experienced toon, I mean know 280000 isnt a ton of XP but its a bit, Id just expect a little more to be explored thats all.
Sorry for going OT, just seems funny.

anna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grais
Im just surprised, and sorry for going a little OT, how the heck did you get to that point having explored so little territory ?Less than 5% of either Tyria, or Cantha,how in the world ? Seems like a tiny amount for a fairly experienced toon, I mean know 280000 isnt a ton of XP but its a bit, Id just expect a little more to be explored thats all.
Sorry for going OT, just seems funny.
This is just a guess, but maybe he's an Elonian character and the Elonian eplorer title is displayed immediately above that of rhw Tyrian and Canthan titles (which would explain why the Elonian title is not displayed in his print screen). I have a paragon who has completed NF and has only been to Kaineng in Cantha and LA in Tyria.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Quote:
Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3
Well thats it I'm done trying to get Legendary Survivor, this was my 8th attempt and this is the 6th time I've died because of a damn bug.
You'll be back for your 9th try. I know I was Managed to get it on my Mesmer, now doing it on an Ele. The dreams are back D:

MegaMouse

MegaMouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

Warriors Of Melos WOM

E/N

There is a known bug in the vizunah square mission that gives a death to a few unlucky (not the ones with the title unlucky) players. It happened to me on one o my characters just as I was about to max the title, and I didn't even need the mission I was just helping out a guildmate.

Mega Mouse

Grais

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Tools

Quote:
This is just a guess, but maybe he's an Elonian character and the Elonian eplorer title is displayed immediately above that of rhw Tyrian and Canthan titles (which would explain why the Elonian title is not displayed in his print screen). I have a paragon who has completed NF and has only been to Kaineng in Cantha and LA in Tyria.
Probably the case, My BAD...Doh. Didnt notice the slider bar on the rightso I suppose there could be another continent above Tyria, and Cantha.

Whiplashr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
You'll be back for your 9th try. I know I was Managed to get it on my Mesmer, now doing it on an Ele. The dreams are back D:
Man I hear you there. My first Survivor char, a warrior, took 6 attempts to get the full title. Now I'm working on a Monk, on my 4th or 5th attempt, can't remember.. but the last couple of times I died with him I was like "that's it, I'm done".. Then an hour later or so I was rolling through pre-searing again (I just prefer to start in Tyria).

Hell Pyre

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

Canada

Order of Corrupted Souls [OoCS]

R/

That happened to my Mesmer, luckily i got the first survivor title then 50k exp later that happened though.

Tempy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Oregon

DOH

I just find it sad that everyone feels like they accomplished something by doing the door or leeching on a group to get the title...Not by actually playing the game and surviving but finding the easiest possible way to get there. ROFLMAO, okay some of them will go far in the business world, CEO's of the future...

I did my Sin Survior me and the henchies for the most part (except the Zen mission). I will agree this is the most stressful title.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

I'll have to admit, I did farm my title for my Mesmer. Quests, End game Prophecies quests, Missions and Bonus, Masters Missions and capping the elites for my primary.

It isn't worth it otherwise.